SeveredVesper
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Ambient BG noise
There a some songs with some very sparse but thick type of ambience, like an atmosphere of such that gives gloom and fills mix, but not enough for it to be overpowering and really just barely audible. Is there really such a technique like this? Or am i just imagining this?
If this is true, what kinds of synths are good for this?
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digi2ns
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Re:Ambient BG noise
2011/04/14 16:15:17
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Can I ask where is most of your bleed coming from? Ariels on drum kits or VOX mics?
I have been working on live mixes and am still learning/experimentinf with a good idea on this. My thoughts were to use audio snap on the individual tracks where it is a huge prob them split the notes into individual clips and use a compressor and gate to knock it out, but this is still experimenting for me.
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Re:Ambient BG noise
2011/04/14 16:35:50
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Sure! I've used some of the DimPro synth pads in the background to help fill out the sound... one of those things where you barely hear it, but you notice if it's gone. I guess the "technique" is just to find a synth pad that fits the sound and I've just played the chord progression (nothing fancy, just moving with the chord changes) then start with it really low in the mix and bring it up until you hear it, then maybe back off a bit (kind of like reverb).
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Re:Ambient BG noise
2011/04/14 16:51:20
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digi2ns
Can I ask where is most of your bleed coming from? Ariels on drum kits or VOX mics?
I have been working on live mixes and am still learning/experimentinf with a good idea on this. My thoughts were to use audio snap on the individual tracks where it is a huge prob them split the notes into individual clips and use a compressor and gate to knock it out, but this is still experimenting for me.
There's no way you read the OP's post. I'm the forum police.
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dlogan
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Re:Ambient BG noise
2011/04/14 17:07:44
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skullsession
There's no way you read the OP's post.
I'm the forum police.
Well he did cover that in his signature.... " Let me apologize now for any typos or forgetting where I was when typing in a post. I stay LOST "
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digi2ns
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Re:Ambient BG noise
2011/04/14 20:59:13
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digi2ns
Can I ask where is most of your bleed coming from? Ariels on drum kits or VOX mics?
I have been working on live mixes and am still learning/experimentinf with a good idea on this. My thoughts were to use audio snap on the individual tracks where it is a huge prob them split the notes into individual clips and use a compressor and gate to knock it out, but this is still experimenting for me.
There's no way you read the OP's post.
I'm the forum police.
 No, I read it. I just misinterpreted it do to my lack of knowledge. I thought he was talking about Acoustic Track and mic bleed from background noise. My bad. Thanks for getting me straightened out though. I appreciate it!!! 
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skullsession
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Re:Ambient BG noise
2011/04/14 22:38:45
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Ha...I'm just messin' with you Mike. The title of the thread lead me to believe it was going to be about the same thing you thought it was about.
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Re:Ambient BG noise
2011/04/15 07:48:21
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Haha. I thought the same thing. I usually don't refer to things I want in my music as noise :)
Dim Pro has some amazing sounds that would work as ambient background fill.
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Re:Ambient BG noise
2011/04/15 09:16:03
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As the others have mentioned - using synth pads would be the best way to get your atmospheric sound. There are a lot of interesting VST synths out there - I really like some of the sounds from Dimension Pro - There are also many freebies (such as Protoplasm). (check out KVRaudio.com and do a search there)
Sometimes you can have fun layering different sounds to create something new and unique. Adding effects and playing with levels (as Dave mentioned) and playing around with panning (including pan envelopes) can help you create the atmosphere you're looking for.
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SeveredVesper
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Re:Ambient BG noise
2011/04/15 13:39:10
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Thanks guys, i'm gonna look into those synths. Is it best for it to remain monotone through out? Or should it follow the note progression? Opinions about this?
Coheed and Cambria's Year of The Black Rainbow had such ambient atmospheres, it really thickens and darkens the sound, which i like!
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arlen2133
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Re:Ambient BG noise
2011/04/16 00:23:31
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SeveredVesper, I've used many an ambient patch both in monotone and following a note progression. Sometimes, if you leave it monotone, you might get a "pulsing" effect out of it (especially if its looping). Depending on the type of song, this may be a good thing. I've had fun allowing the patch to "follow" the progression, which kind of makes it more a part of the song. Experiment both ways with it. 
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