M@ B
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American Girl - Cover
Hello, This is a 1st mix of 10 downloaded instrument stems and my lead vocal. Critiques and suggestions are welcome. Thanks. EDIT: This is the latest mix and a new vocal. Thanks again. http://soundcloud.com/jack-klugman/american-girl
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Old55
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/04 20:33:23
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It sounds very good. Faithful to the original, yet more complex guitar parts. You did a good job of getting that without distracting melody.
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/04 21:20:13
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Thanks. I didn't comp/edit the vocal, it's just one take, so there's "a few off notes." I was just trying to put a vocal down to build the mix around. I'll redo it when the mix is balanced. Do the vocal effects sound appropriate? Does the vocal sit right? It sounds a little loud to me when it first starts.
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/04 22:49:38
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M@ B
Thanks. I didn't comp/edit the vocal, it's just one take, so there's "a few off notes." I was just trying to put a vocal down to build the mix around. I'll redo it when the mix is balanced. Do the vocal effects sound appropriate? Does the vocal sit right? It sounds a little loud to me when it first starts.
I hear what you're saying about loud at the beginning. I think if you bring that down a touch and the vocal the same amount you should be good. Nothing about the effects jump out at me. Maybe someone with more experience and expertise can offer better advice.
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/05 09:06:21
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Hey Jack (that's your name, right?) lol
Awesome rhythm guitar tone man! I think you've nailed all the parts to this song perfectly! My main comment would be to go back and spend a little more time with the faders. The main rhythm guitar seems to dominate the mix to me. I don't hear enough bass. How do you start your mixdown? I think on this tune I would start with the drums, then bring in the bass. Then it might be a tossup as to whether I'd bring in vocals or guitars...I'm thinking guitars, then get the vocals to sit well. Then go back and maybe "ride the faders" to get the interplay between vocals and guitars sweet. Notice the lead line at the beginning is burried under the rhythm guitar.
Curious about your guitar/amp/mic setup...care to share?
Thanks.
Cheers! Tony SONAR Platinum JNCS Computer with Asus X99 Motherboard (i7) Win10 Pro 64bit, 32GB RAM Motif XF7, Komplete 11, Ozone 7, Komplete Kontrol 88 keys, Softube Console 1, PreSonus Faderport 8, Focusrite ISA 430 Mk 2 Mic Pre, Yamaha HS8s and Sub Drawmer 3.1 Monitor Controller Fractal Axe FX 2 XL Guitar Processor Lots-o-Guitars
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/05 12:55:20
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Matt, I've been trying to access that link all morning without success. I must be that Soundcloud is having problems, but I will keep trying throughout the day.
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/05 13:41:28
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My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/05 15:29:11
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The link didn't work for me either, so I tried Google Chrome. It opened after struggling with it a bit. Keep clicking on it!
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/06 03:58:10
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Sorry, I tried to listen, but the link's not working for me either!  Bob
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/06 03:59:10
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Forum Software Glitch - Double Post!
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M@ B
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/06 09:48:45
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Sorry for the confusion guys. Guitarhacker had it right... removed for fixing. PS. I did not track the instruments, they are stems that i DL'd and mixed. I then overdubbed the lead vocal. Will repost the next mix. Thanks again, Matt
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/06 11:27:33
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I'm looking forward to hearing it. It's 10:30 am cdt Saturday morning, and the link is still down, but I'll be checking back throughout the day.
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/06 15:43:13
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/06 16:19:16
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I'm finding out that as the mix changes, the delivery of the vocal sometimes requires changing to suit. So i retracked the vocal a few times today. I can see how one can chase his tail doing this...
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/06 21:20:33
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Hello, I posted the "fixed" mix up in the first post. Any pointers always appreciated. Thanks Tbosco, i tried to balance the guitar tracks (4 of them) with the bass, piano and organ. Tough to leave elbow room for everything and fit a vocal. The real Tom Petty mix is not as busy, i don't think.
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/07 10:11:33
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This was worth the wait. Your vocal was quite good, in fact, I would have liked to heard it a little louder. Otherwise, it all sounded good. Tom Petty would have like this.
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/09 12:33:55
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/09 12:35:54
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PS, i'm not jack klugman. ;-)
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/09 12:41:05
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So, who is Jack Klugman and why are you using his Soundcloud account? :)
Good stuff again - I like you're voice it suits this style.
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/09 12:44:16
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nice effort!
interesting, hearing about putting mixes together across the interwebs, it's cool, i've done it quite a bit with some past projects...
it's funny, you sink your teeth into it, no matter what, and to borrow another tom petty title 'damn the torpedoes', you find a way to bring all together.
nice mix.
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/09 12:58:46
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Nice mix and very well done, I thoroughly enjoyed it!  ~ John
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/09 12:59:39
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Thanks daryl. Back wen i first made the account, i just arbitrarily put jack klugman in as my user name. Now i changed the UN to 'no days back' but jack klugman still remains in the links. Soundcloud support just got back to me today about how to change that, but i think it will void all the existing links (like this one). ------------- Thanks batsbrew, yeah, you really have to work with what you've got, and try to make all of the overdubs sound appropriate. Sometimes, you feel handcuffed by the tone of the tracks. Make the best of it, it's just practice, but it's very good practice for cover material and learning what mixing is.
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/09 13:03:59
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Glad you liked it JD1813. Thanks. -------- Does the piano sound too loud? Are the vocla effects distracting in anyway (verb and delay timings and/or levels)? Thanks again.
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/09 15:33:50
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M@ B
Glad you liked it JD1813. Thanks. -------- Does the piano sound too loud? Are the vocal effects distracting in anyway (verb and delay timings and/or levels)? Thanks again.
Went back again and listened for those items specifically; but no - I don't hear anything distracting in FX or in any piano parts. In fact at around 2:24 as piano comes in I'd be happy to hear it a little louder overtop the rhythms. But overall the mix sounds very well balanced to me, and I'm just on ear pods and a notebook here at work. Very nice, in my opinion. - John
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Re:American Girl - Cover
2012/10/09 19:11:33
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Thanks JD. I'll listen to that part and see if i can't give the piano a little bump in there.
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