Amplitube 2 - Daddy Likes!

Looks interesting! I was not terribly impressed with version 1. I've got my eye on Waves GTR. But I may have to wait and see the reviews for Amplitube 2.

Waves GTR??? Where?

GTR won't work in SONAR anyway. I installed the 7 day demo and the VST adapter doesn't like it at all. DirectiXer doesn't work either. The vst plugin is similar to the waveshell dll that's used for the other waves plugins. SONAR sees it as 1 plugin rather that the seperate plugins like it should. It just crashes if you pick the plugin in SONAR. And unlike the other waves plugins, there's no DX version of GTR.

GTR is way too expensive. I haven't tried it yet, but the video demo left me speechless. As in, I had nothing to say about it either way. I was far from impressed with Amplitube 1. I couldn't find anything in it that Guitar rig didn't do better. And quite frankly, I don't think Guitar rig's is all it's cracked up to be either. Regardless, I thought Amplitube had potential so I have high hopes for version 2. Maybe I'm just being swayed by the soft core porn advertising.

Guitar Rig is VERY noisy. I can't believe they (native instruments) didn't think that this was a huge problem. I guess it's not considering no one else seems to complain about it. However, I think that Amplitube's problem is that it doesn't have any balls. Try guitar rig, it's a HUGE difference for full on distorion. I just think that that's it's only real strength. And trust me, I am far from a tone snob. It makes me wonder how much these magazines just heap praise on anything their advertisers throw at them.
With Amplitube I have to add PSP's Vintage Warmer to get it to sound decent. But like you said, different people have complete opposite opinions on the same product.
By the way, I too, never really used Amplitube's effects either

Nomad Rock amp legends is the best sounding amp plugin.



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ORIGINAL: jamester
I'd be really interested to hear what people don't like about Amplitube... is it not "realistic" enough in its modeling? I find I can get great, juicy tones with a good 'feel' - way better than I ever could with my guitar processors - plus the convenience of software flexibilty.

What's not to like?
(ok, the pedals are a bit limited...but I rarely use them)

To be fair, I may not given Amplitude a full hearing. But I did a little shoot-out in my studio between Amplitude 1 and my PodXT. I played both of them live... in real time.... switching back and forth between them...trying different settings. As soon as I started pushing the over-drive / tube distortion on Amplitude, it started breaking up and getting very scratchy and harsh sounding. The Pod was able to handle a lot more over-drive before it started sounding like a$$.

Amplitude may have some other desirable attributes that I didn't look at. I'm not totally happy with my PodXT, either. The distorted sounds produce a lot of digital smearing which can mess up a mix. The picking / playing dynamics are not so hot, either.

ORIGINAL: JoePaz
GTR won't work in SONAR anyway. I installed the 7 day demo and the VST adapter doesn't like it at all. DirectiXer doesn't work either. The vst plugin is similar to the waveshell dll that's used for the other waves plugins. SONAR sees it as 1 plugin rather that the seperate plugins like it should. It just crashes if you pick the plugin in SONAR. And unlike the other waves plugins, there's no DX version of GTR.

Do you have an iLok? The Demo requires it to run.

I have not really come across a modeler that beats the PODxt for pure amp emulation and recording. There are others with more bells and whistles but not better tone. The computer plugin has just not gotten there yet.

The Nomad was interesting but noiset but they are getting there.

AXE

ORIGINAL: axe

I have not really come across a modeler that beats the PODxt for pure amp emulation and recording. There are others with more bells and whistles but not better tone. The computer plugin has just not gotten there yet.

The Nomad was interesting but noiset but they are getting there.

AXE

I had the PODxt Live and A/B'd it for 3 weeks with my Johnson J-Station--I ended up selling the POD and keeping my $50 Johnson. It's all a matter of taste, of course, but I really thought the Johnson did a better job of nailing tube amp sounds. And at $50, you really can't beat it with a stick.

I have the Adrenalinn II and think it really does a great job, at least for the novice that I am. I compared it to the PodXT and thought it had a bit more punch.

Check out the video demo....

http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinn2.shtml


mark

Other than Guitar Rig I use http://www.simulanalog.org/guitarsuite.htm and http://www.voxengo.com/product/boogex/.

ORIGINAL: jamester
What was the question? Oh yeah...what I meant to say was - I really love Amplitube! I think it sounds great, and am totally happy with it (other than its not playing nice with P5).

I'm hesitant on version 2. It seems like it's gotten bloated;

I agree with this somewhat as well. I heart amplitube quite a bit, I use it on vox ALL the time, and combined with Slayer lets me fake some pretty good guitar parts.

I do like the new GUI, it's a little cleaner, but for bollocks sakes, that's a LOT of stuff to page through now. This whole new "reason-esque" collapsing rack model is just getting a little tedious. If I want an effect inside my DAW, I do not want to have to tab through ten screens of settings...especially for everything. It's a very American philosophy I think. "Oh, one amp sim is great, well let's do TEN AMP SIMS!" Kind of reminds me of the Onion article that predicted the 5-bladed razor. I mean seriously now....

quote:

Amplitube is such a freaking resource pig.
Oh man, in P5 it's worse than Dimension! well, almost....

IK stuff is very inefficient IMHO. I have (and hate) Sonik Synth 2 and it's a freakin' hog. Amplitube I like a lot, but always bounce to tracks and delete it out of sessions. And I hate T-Racks (which came free with Amplitube)... no more IK stuff for me. Voxengo and Sonitus... and maybe back to a POD for guitars.

Trash definitely has some good tones, and produces certain types of distortion very well (great for the patented Boston guitar tone or that shredding industrial sound), but talk about resource hog. I find it's much better mixing than playing live.

I was all about Amplitube, and it's still generally my go-to guitar plug, but I'm always trying out things that allow for low latency playing. I was chuffed about AT2 - bring on the bloat! - until several things happened. First I caught wind that the newly released Miroslav Orchestral Sample Library employes a dongle-based copy protection; I've managed to make it all these years with nary a dongle (save the one I was born with), and I'm not giving up the USB port now. If the new SampleTank2 update is going to require me to acquire a dongle, than I'm freezing my ST2 license at the current version, enough for me to use the sounds I've paid for. Then I deciphered the upgrade pricing via a thread over on KvR, and it's a little, shall we say, steep. Hell, it cost less to upgrade to StylusRMX or Project5 2 and those are more or less whole new programs.

Finally, when AT2 was first announced it was shipping back in August. ComputerMusic had it listed as "Incoming" in their release date graphic 2 months running before unceremoniously dropping it (I don't know how it's listed now because my subscription has lapsed). I won't go so far as to say it was vaporware, because obviously people have seen and used this, but the marketing department over at IK is a little hinkey. (IMO of course.) My guess is there was some stumbling vis a vis NI GuitarRig. Moreover, it looks NI has delivered a solid blow with the hardware interface to their upgrade.

In the end I may just wait for the Line6 TonePort (http://line6.com/toneport/hardware.html). I find I still use my POD2 to track quite a bit: I have a few fairly unaffected tones that allow for good post-production, but my biggest gripe is that I can't split the signal in the POD and record both; TonePort looks to solve that. Still, I will continue to look for a good native solution for an amp sim.