I am glad you had a better experience than I. I received an e-mail from IK Media about Riffworks, sorry about the misinformation.

I still think Guitar Rig is better . I don't use the footswitch, but I am impressed with what I have seen so far.

ORIGINAL: stratcat

And on the 335, I love them!! But if you can get past the whole mystique of it being a Gibson, you should try the high-end Yamaha version - the SA2000, 2100 or 2200. I had an SA2000 years ago and always regretted selling it. Recently I picked up an SA2100 and it is the sweetest "gibson" type guitar I've ever played. Yamaha's high end guitars are as good as anything out there IMHO..

Off topic reply to Stratcat:

Hi, Stratcat,

I certainly agree with you that there are some very good alterntives to the Gibson 335's. Heck, I played a $400 Epiphone Dot that, dollar-to-dollar was a pretty impressive copy of the 335. But I'm really curious to know more about the Yamaha SA2000/SA2100. I have tried many times to find one in a music store to no avail. Would love to try one out, as I've always thought that the Yamaha guitar products are quite good. Unfortunately, the closest city to where I live is Reno, Nevada and none of the stores in Reno stock the high end Yamaha's. May have to bite the bullet one of these days and drive the 3 hours to Sacramento to see if I can find a 2100 to check out.

Bill

ORIGINAL: mildew
make sure you try nomad rock amp legends. it was released before they got their "good as waves" rep, but is very very good - uses convolution and maintains more of your pick attack.

+1.......and is very simple to tweak.

I compleatly agree with Cromberger, I run a Road King 2 with a marshal 4x12 and an old fender Super reverb(the amp was actualy used for a buddys set up so I only have the cabinet and speakers) 4x10. Even with the 4x10 setup I still have a dificult time getting that fender pristine sound out of my Road King II. So I plug straight into my sound card with an over drive pedal(just for a little added volume and bingo I have total control over my sound, through the revalvalizer in the mix and bamb I got my old Super reverb back :) it sounds nearly perfect except for the missing amp noise. Also I will go directly from my road king effects out spit to my peavy tube amp(1x12) and my sound card, sit right next to the amp and presto, feadback, resonation, just like your pushing your amp to the max and the added benefit of the effects plugins.

I do realy like the pod for the effects and modaling, but the preamp distortions sound a bit fuzzy to me with little to no character.

After reading the thread I decided to download Revalver MkII and I think I'm going to buy it.

I spent all last night playing about with it in Sonar and it sounded really good.

ORIGINAL: Cromberger

ORIGINAL: stratcat

And on the 335, I love them!! But if you can get past the whole mystique of it being a Gibson, you should try the high-end Yamaha version - the SA2000, 2100 or 2200. I had an SA2000 years ago and always regretted selling it. Recently I picked up an SA2100 and it is the sweetest "gibson" type guitar I've ever played. Yamaha's high end guitars are as good as anything out there IMHO..

Off topic reply to Stratcat:

Hi, Stratcat,

I certainly agree with you that there are some very good alterntives to the Gibson 335's. Heck, I played a $400 Epiphone Dot that, dollar-to-dollar was a pretty impressive copy of the 335. But I'm really curious to know more about the Yamaha SA2000/SA2100. I have tried many times to find one in a music store to no avail. Would love to try one out, as I've always thought that the Yamaha guitar products are quite good. Unfortunately, the closest city to where I live is Reno, Nevada and none of the stores in Reno stock the high end Yamaha's. May have to bite the bullet one of these days and drive the 3 hours to Sacramento to see if I can find a 2100 to check out.

Bill

Yamaha's high end models are so consistent. If you read up on them, you'll find the craftsmanship is impecible and attention to detail is top priority for their builders. Read the reviews on Harmony Central for all of the SA models. The newest model is the 2200.
http://www.music123.com/Yamaha-SA2200-Semi-Hollowbody-Electric-Guitar-Violin-Sunburst-i54777.music

I bought my SA2100 on Ebay. You'll find the SA's go anywhere from around $600-1200 depending on the model and condition. I paid $1000 for my 2100 and it's near mint. Wine with gold hardware - simply gorgeous and plays like butter. The 2000, 2100 and 2200 are more like 355s with block inlays and fancier headstock. The 800, 1000, 1100 are more like a dot neck 335. All great guitars.

I just did a Google on Yamaha SA2100 and found this discussion group - http://www.yamahatalk.com/message-board-forum/forum-5.html

ORIGINAL: stratcat

Yamaha's high end models are so consistent. If you read up on them, you'll find the craftsmanship is impecible and attention to detail is top priority for their builders. Read the reviews on Harmony Central for all of the SA models. The newest model is the 2200.
http://www.music123.com/Yamaha-SA2200-Semi-Hollowbody-Electric-Guitar-Violin-Sunburst-i54777.music

I bought my SA2100 on Ebay. You'll find the SA's go anywhere from around $600-1200 depending on the model and condition. I paid $1000 for my 2100 and it's near mint. Wine with gold hardware - simply gorgeous and plays like butter. The 2000, 2100 and 2200 are more like 355s with block inlays and fancier headstock. The 800, 1000, 1100 are more like a dot neck 335. All great guitars.

I just did a Google on Yamaha SA2100 and found this discussion group - http://www.yamahatalk.com/message-board-forum/forum-5.html

Stratcat,

Thanks for the info. Right after I read your last post I visited the Yamaha web site and checked out the SA2200. Now I'm itching to check one out in person...... Didn't see anything about the 800, 1000, or 1100 but, of course, I wasn't looking for those models so I may have just missed them.

I was surpised to see that the fingerboard radius on the 2200 is listed as 12-1/2". I do like a radius in the 12" range but due to some medical issues in my hands, I have a hard time with a board that flat. Still, depending on how thin/fat the neck is, I can play a 12". How would you describe the neck shape of your 2100? Baseball bat, toothpick, or ???.

Thanks again for the links and info.

Bill

ORIGINAL: coldsteal2

I havent even tried my Amplitubes yet, i always use my PODXT, but after reading
all of this ill have to give it a shot

coldsteal,

I have a podXT also. Like you, I love it. But I also have Amplitube 2. With Amplitube, it's so much more convenient to record DI and then shape your tone to taste during the mix. I know I can do that with the podXT as well, but that requires reamping and whatnot. Amplitube sounds great PLUS the convenience factor is what makes me go to it. I think you'd like it a lot.

ORIGINAL: JohnrC

ORIGINAL: vicsant

So the trick is to set the GR2 effect to 100% wet?

Not really. There isn't a wet/dry control on the GR2. I'm thinking maybe your friend has his sound card set up in a way that you hear the clean signal separate, and in addition to, everything that's going on in SONAR.

He could check the card's control panel if it has one, or the Windows audio control (often an 'Advanced' button in the 'Recording' properties) and snoop around for something like "Record Without Monitoring". Make sure that's selected.

HTH

The original clean guitar sounds are recorded on Sonar audio tracks with GR2 inserted in the FX bins which processes the clean sound. So on playback you hear both the clean sound and the GR2 processed output.

We'd like to hear just the GR2 output on playback without the original clean sound.

Is this at all possible?

ORIGINAL: vicsant

ORIGINAL: JohnrC

ORIGINAL: vicsant

So the trick is to set the GR2 effect to 100% wet?

Not really. There isn't a wet/dry control on the GR2. I'm thinking maybe your friend has his sound card set up in a way that you hear the clean signal separate, and in addition to, everything that's going on in SONAR.

He could check the card's control panel if it has one, or the Windows audio control (often an 'Advanced' button in the 'Recording' properties) and snoop around for something like "Record Without Monitoring". Make sure that's selected.

HTH

The original clean guitar sounds are recorded on Sonar audio tracks with GR2 inserted in the FX bins which processes the clean sound. So on playback you hear both the clean sound and the GR2 processed output.

We'd like to hear just the GR2 output on playback without the original clean sound.

Is this at all possible?

Disable direct input monitoring on your soundcard and activate "input echo on" (button next to M, S, R buttons on track view.
I hope, this is, what your after.

Tapsa

I downloaded the demo of Amplitude 2 over the weekend and have to say I like the way it sounds more than GR2. The price is a bit excessive though. $399 or 329 Euros? I would think the Toneport UX2 would be a better option.

I use a PODxt Pro, a V-Amp Pro and a GNX3000 for tone generation and direct recording, and use GR2 for post processing of dry tracks. I usually use the POD when I record and record a dry track through the SPDIF out and a wet track through the USB out. Then I have the possibility to reamp the dry track with the PODxt or with GR2. When I use the GNX3000 I record a dry track with the USB out and a wet track with the analog outs. When I record with the V-Amp I use only the SPDIF to only make a wet track.

My first observation is that the guitar processors give me much better tone on the wet recorded tracks than a dry track that is reamped with GR2 or Amplitube. The PODxt is capable of delivering monster tone that these plugins just can't touch. Same with the GNX3000. Even the V-AMP Pro delivers excellent recorded tracks although "live" it sounds a little thinner than the PODxt.

My second observation is for 150 clams a V-AMP Pro is an amazing piece of kit for recording and can also be useful for live performances as it sounds great direct to PA. For less than the cost of Amplitube 2 one could get a PODxt Bean which can do reamping. For about the same cost there are the multieffect pedals like the PODxt Live and the GNX3000 that have reamping and many other recording possibilities as well.

ORIGINAL: artsoul

riffworks was originally pushed by line 6

There is a cut price line 6 version that only works with line 6 devices still.

For the record

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ORIGINAL: coldsteal2

I havent even tried my Amplitubes yet, i always use my PODXT, but after reading
all of this ill have to give it a shot

coldsteal,

I have a podXT also. Like you, I love it. But I also have Amplitube 2. With Amplitube, it's so much more convenient to record DI and then shape your tone to taste during the mix. I know I can do that with the podXT as well, but that requires reamping and whatnot. Amplitube sounds great PLUS the convenience factor is what makes me go to it. I think you'd like it a lot.

Cool i tried it two days ago and it sounds really nice, thanks, i might have just
never even tried it. thanks

I've just bougth revalver and I'm really happy with it because it means less stuff to carry with me when I'm on the move

If you already have a POD XT (I am guessing if you are asking Amplitube vs. guitar rig, you don't - but who knows?) I would suggest getting the Gearbox plug in. Besides great sounding guitar plug ins, it is pretty CPU friendly IMHO. (of course if you don't have a POD XT, buying the dongle (pod xt) and the plug in would be pretty pricey)

Right now it is on sale for the rest of April (125.00) and includes silver package for POD XT customers. (apparently toneport people do not get such a sweet deal). (I am in no way affiliated with Line 6, just took the plunge myself and am very satisified)

I was very down on this when it first came out, but at this price with silver package upgrade - well worth it in IMHO.

I was very surprised by the vocal pre-sets with the included silver package pre-amps.....very nice to have in one's arsenal too.

Also, with the BASS POD expansion pack on the POD XT, I have a lot covered now in VST for an additional 125.00 $.

JR