Analyse this Mix

Hi,

I'm analysing mixing of a record I'm recently hooked up. It is Beady Belle's latest album "Belvedere". A Norwagian band I've been following since their first release "Home".
As the title suggests, their first album was home-made. Mixes and production have improved very much since then, and they developed a "less is more" approach that I really like.

Here, on the first track called "Apron Stings"
http://www.imeem.com/deathday/playlist/G4kBRpgm/beady_belle_belvedere_music_playlist/

It starts with a slide guitar that is panned left (I think almost hard-left) and you can hear a reflection on the right channel that is "very musical" to my ears. Much noticable through headphones. How is this achieved?

I usually use/try a very short delay or a reverb with a pre-delay to do a similar job, but it doesn't sound the same, it rather sounds "direct" eventhough highs are rolled off and etc.
Does it have to do with the delay times? I find short delay times around 20-40ms very tricky as it may sound phased.

I cannot really put my finder on it how they did it on the record. The same method is used for guitar throughout the record.

Any insight is much appreciated.

Register? It did not ask me for registration. That's why I included that link.

Try this:

Google this "imeem beady belle belvedere" (without quotes) and click on imeem link that comes up at the top of search results. This way it does not ask for registration.
When you go to the same page directly by its link, it asks for registration. Weird!

pretty smooth production - very nice - now dont get me wrong - because the singer can sing very well - but strangely i get annoyed by vocals when they are like this - means that still knowing that the vocals are good i still dont like them - i must be crazy
maybe its because the vocals are so laidback that the make me feel like the band said "we want to be laidback" - but "laidbackness" cant come on purpose imo
but you didnt ask about that but about the guitar - heck i have no idea! i never record guitars - sorry for waisting your time

I like this tune...and I like the mix. While, I'm only listening to this on my PC speakers, I think it sounds great. Regarding the slide, IMHO, if the level were any lower, I almost think I'd get board when she's not singing. Just my two cents.

hey is this the new songs forum.

Not really sure that anyone could say for certain... but it almost sounds like mic bleed to me.

Reminds me a bit of K.D. Lang (laidback, great vocals).

Listening through headphones, I could only hear the 'slide guitar' right side reflection by panning the output to only right-side. Could be done post-processing using reverb/delay affect, or as someone mentioned, it might just be mic bleed. But the volume of this reflection is rather low. I am surprised you even hear it. I could not until I did the panning I mentioned.

NOTE: I was able to listen by selecting the 'Play' button before the license screen popped up.

Can a guitar EVER be too loud?

ORIGINAL: macflooze

Sounds like it may be a room mic, possibly slightly delayed, and panned.

I think it could be a room mic. That also explains the short reverb on original guitar.

ORIGINAL: John

A little boomy in the bass.

When I listen to original cd, I hear a very tight sub-bass. Boominess could be due to internet version.

ORIGINAL: cmsweet123

Can a guitar EVER be too loud?

I'd say NO. But it can, when a guitarist mixes his/her own music

ORIGINAL: alkie

i guess you could ask anders aasebøe the sound engineer how he did it.

anders aasebøe is the live sound guy.
Beady's live rig was small but impressive when they had more electric stuff going on, like loops, effects...etc.
This album sounds mostly acoustic, they may not need him anymore

... (edit)

When I look at the wav file with a frequency analyzer, there is absolutely nothing above 16kHz. It must be cut during mastering, but it is very steep. Frequencies are all ok up to 16kHZ, after that nothing. Well, it looked strange to me.