[Ancient Thread] Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX

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[Ancient Thread] Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX

 
This is an ancient thread that got resurrected, guys. I don't actually need recommendations on this anymore. Just didn't want anyone wasting time reading/replying thinking this was new. Edited Sept 19/2015.
 
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Hi, guys. Perhaps the wrong sub forum for this but I figure some of you guys might have tried these Bass sims and it's somewhat X2 related as I need to know about compatibility. 

So I've been using GR5 for my bass sounds and it's alright but a little limited and it doesn't quite get me where I want it to. I'm thinking I might need something dedicated to bass. Considering how much I like TH2 and the fact I qualify for a discount (I upgraded to the full version) I figured it might be something I'd like. The audio samples though seem to be more geared towards that thick modern jazz sound, which is nice, but I'm mostly a rocker and need something a little more vintage so I'm not sure if it's gonna do what I want. I do think however it will not cause any crashes or weirdness in Sonar because of how well TH2 has been working. Obviously that's important. Here's the product page...

http://www.overloud.com/products/mark_studio2.php

The other contender is IK Multimedia's Ampeg SVX sim. Mr Danzi recommended it to someone else here and gave it very high praise. I've always loved the Ampeg sound and it looks like they really went all out with the modeling. I've never installed any IK plugs though and I'm a little worried that it might not play nice with my system. I know lots of you guys use IK plugs so I'm assuming it'll be alright but I'd appreciate some input. The other thing is even though the Ampeg sound would definitely cover a huge part of what I do I also want to be able to have some flexibility so I'm curious what kind of range this plug has... like can I do country, jazz, hip hop, whatever, if need be? Here's a link...


http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/ampegsvx/

So tl;dr...

Do any of you guys use these and if so... 

How's the sound?

How flexible are they as far as different styles and tones?

Do they work well with Sonar X2 64 bit?


Thanks and I hope you are all having a good day.

post edited by Beepster - 2015/09/19 14:24:58
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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 11:54:48 (permalink)
    GR5 is definitely too limited as regards bass amps

    I have never tried the Overloud Mark Studio 2 but I own and use the IK Ampeg SVX. It does sound good if you're after the Ampeg sound (as a 'rocker' it's almost a must to have access to this sound), but
      - it's just the Ampeg sound i.e. not a whole of variety; I got a lot more variety with e.g. my Line6 PodFarm amps, which I often reach for when it's not thunderous rock bass that I'm after
      - Ampeg SVX is still 32 bit; you need to run it inside Amplitube to have it available as 64 bit plug; I reckon Ampeg SVX should load into the free version of Amplitube, but I can't tell for sure as I use the full version, but this is something I would check on prior to spending money

    Apart from that IK plugs (at least the ones that are 64 bit already) behave well on my DAW and are still frequently used.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 12:03:46 (permalink)
    Love the Mark Bass. Line 6 Tone Port with the bass package is really good too (especially the Adam and the GK amps). With that being said the old, grey, bean looking line 6 bass pod hardware still has the best bass sound for direct recording. (In my humble opinion of course) I haven't tried the IK.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 12:06:31 (permalink)
    Well, I have both. I have used Ampeg for years and yes, it's really good. But I bought the Mark Studio 2 with my TH2 upgrade and I am extremely happy! It sounds brilliant and I don't see my self go to the Ampeg one anymore - especially since my love for their amp packages and the iK-company is not really much to talk about anymore. Mark Studio 2 is awesome, both in use, compaitbility and of course how it sounds. Now, if you don't like the Mark Amp sound, then don't get it. But I'd be surprised if you don't like this plugin.

    So my vote is Mark Studio 2 - especially for the price you'll have to pay for it.
     
    Just need to add - I ran a double bass through it on a couple of songs and we had a blast! It handled all the low frequencies and harmonies really well.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 12:14:44 (permalink)
    Also check out the Orange bass amp in Amplitube custom shop. With virtual bass guitars (Scarbee and Orange Tree) I like it better than the Ampeg stuff.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 12:20:52 (permalink)
    I have the IK Ampeg SVX, which I like, but recently have been using the bass amps in Amplitube 3 a lot more (even the free one).
     
    I have used Guitar Rig 5 for bass as well, but at the moment my set up (in order of usage) would be:-
     
    Guitar - Guitar Rig 5, Amplitube 3 (particularly the Mesa sim from the custom shop) and TH2 Producer
     
    Bass - Amplitube 3, then IK Ampeg SVX
    I've not tried the Overload one, so can't comment.  If you haven't yet, then I highly recommend downloading Amplitube 3 Free, and you can try out the other amps from the custom Shop and buy them individually.  I have also found IK customer Services to be brilliant.
    post edited by jb101 - 2013/03/13 12:28:36

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 12:28:27 (permalink)
    I don't know about you guys but Ampeg SVX crashes X2 every time I try to inset it;
    or try to load an old project containing it.
    Runs fine on X1.
    That being said its "included" in Amplitube 3, which runs fine in X2.
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    Why would you use (settle) for anything less?
    I haven't tried the others, just a "warning", that for me at least, SVX is unusable in X2.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 12:32:40 (permalink)
    Would like to find a Hartke plugin. 


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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 12:43:38 (permalink)
    I cant believe your even asking this question, mark bass all day, all night.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 12:59:26 (permalink)
    don't have the Ampeg plug-in, but I got the mark bass and since I got it, I love it on all my tracks, from acoustic bass, fretless, fender jazz sound. It's quite good, very transparent, and never causes any crashes or other issues in my projects. I really recommend it, but of course I'm not comparing it to the others.. 
    I also like TH2, but I am finding the full version of Breverb a little bit disappointing, to be honest. But that's for a separate thread, of course.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 14:22:28 (permalink)
    My Bass player loves the Ampeg Versus the Mark.  I have both and use Ampeg nearly always.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 14:48:49 (permalink)
    you guys are making curious. i reckon i'll need to check out the mark bass myself, but too much to do and not enough time at the moment ..

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 15:15:31 (permalink)
    I just checked to see if IK Ampeg SVX works here, in case my mind was playing tricks on me, and it's fine.
     
    I still use Amplitube more nowadays, though.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 15:52:04 (permalink)
    I think you would be good with either (or both!!!!!!)

    I have Ampeg SVX and use it all the time in X2 via the free Amplitube 3 plugin - never had any issues 

    The bass player in my band uses Mark Bass gear for gigs and we recently recorded in the studio

    The Mark Bass plugin did everything he wanted and he managed to get "that sound" really easily so I think you will be fine
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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 17:16:18 (permalink)
    Don't forget about GK Amplification.  Audiffex just announced a permanent price drop for both the standard ($39) and the pro ($79) versions.  Gallien-Krueger bass vst is clear, punchy and has a big tight bottom.  It is my favorite bass vst.  http://www.audiffex.com/EN/gallien.html




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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 18:28:20 (permalink)
    Don't know about the others, because I stopped my search when I found IK's SVT.

    My primary instrument in bands has always been bass. I own a 1981 Ampeg SVT with 8 10's. Now, I just rent it out to classic rock bands traveling through town who need backline. IK has NAILED the sound. 
     
    I've never had a problem using it with any version of Sonar I've owned. If you need flexibility, get Amplitube Free, demo the other bass rigs and just buy the one you like best. They have several great ones.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 18:51:56 (permalink)
    If you own svx you can open the models in the amplitube "free" version or custom shop so it will be a native 64 bit vst. I have given thought to picking up mark studio. Honestly I use the GK model in amplitube using a 410 cab and the green (trace elliot) model. Sometimes the ampeg models depending on the song/tone I am after.
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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 22:51:05 (permalink)
    I like using Amplitube Fender bass heads/cabs better than the Ampeg models but I don't do metal or hard driving rock. As an alternative for pop/indie/country/jazz bass sounds I prefer something quite different - Nomad Factory Magma which gives a ton of rack effects with very flexible routing. 3s
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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 23:13:13 (permalink)
    I have both and Mark Studio is the clear winner IMO.  SVX is quite good but for focused, fat sounds that really work in a mix Mark Studio is the best.  I use it with mu Fender Precision and various NI Bass Samples.
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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/13 23:25:59 (permalink)
    Mark Bass is excellent, there are such a wide variety of bass sounds you can get from it, definitely versatile. The presets are great starting off points. I find it's also great for synth basses. I don't use the effects pedals much, except maybe the distortion which is great for dialing in just a little bit of fuzz to make the bass pop. 

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/14 00:56:28 (permalink)
    its obvious that not many have used mark bass,
    here's  a you tube video, just skip to about 2:00 minutes ,past the guy talking to get right to it in action:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GS8x0mPqSY

    here's the home page:
    http://www.overloud.com/products/mark_studio2.php

    if you've used IK's ampeg its because it fairly inexspensive and easy to use.
    mark bass is much more advanced than ampeg svx.
    and its a bass vst not a compbo type like ampg is, ampeg is much like amplitude, a guitar hybrid.
    mark bass is all in a category by itself. just awesome.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/14 08:38:16 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the input, guys. Sorry I bailed (wasn't feeling well yesterday). I didn't realize the IK one worked with the free Amplitude thingie. I'll be trying out both demos before buying but based on the comments hear and taking another listen to the audio samples I do think the Mark Bass is probably gonna end up being what I go for. I figure it's probably a more modern program (not referring to sounds... the actual program) like TH2 and I really REALLY do like TH2. The 64 bit thing is another selling point even if the Ampeg sim works as 64 bit within Amplitude that sounds kind of like a wrapper. I'm trying to keep everything I own in 64 bit. Also if it's as versatile as some of you guys are saying then I'm sure I'll be able to dial in something similar to an Ampeg anyway.

    Cheers and thanks again. 
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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/14 10:43:11 (permalink)
    Beepster


    . The 64 bit thing is another selling point even if the Ampeg sim works as 64 bit within Amplitude that sounds kind of like a wrapper. . 
    Its a mistaken impression to say Amplitube 3 is a wrapper, its an upgraded that can use the old models. It also makes all the Ampeg modules available in the Amplitube interface where you can mix and match them with any other components you own. Its very versatile.
     
    I am not saying its better than Mark Bass, I don't know as I only have the IK Stuff but I wanted to clarify.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2013/03/15 01:11:54 (permalink)
    i sat down with the MarkBass demo for a long while. and to me, it seemed to take too much of the character away from my bass. i found it to be a little harsh and industrious sounding. the Ampeg SVX stuff sounded more natural to me, just meat and potatoes bass.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2015/09/19 12:43:25 (permalink)
    chuckebaby
    if you've used IK's ampeg its because it fairly inexspensive and easy to use.
    mark bass is much more advanced than ampeg svx.



    I know that this is an OLD thread, but I find this comment just plain arrogant and insulting in a way. Just because some folks like the Ampeg and you don't does not mean they use it only because it is "fairly inexspensive and easy to use." or that they can not work mark bass because "mark bass is much more advanced than ampeg svx".
     
    I own both, and use the Ampeg for that classic bass sound that is used in countless hit records of the past few decades, and mark bass when I need a tighter sound, they both are deep, and they both are easy.....
     
    Sorry for the rant, but for some reason this comment just hit me wrong...
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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2015/09/19 13:25:02 (permalink)
    It is pretty weird you'd resurrect such an ancient thread to take a swipe at chuck over that but in a way it's good for me because it reminded me I still need to buy MarkII.
     
    And AFAIK MarkII is capable of the Ampeg sound... but I already have ways to do that as it is with my guitar sims so although I looooove Ampegs (real ones... the old vintage fridge beasts) it's not really something I NEED to drop coin on. I need more varied/powerful/flexible sounds for my needs (and to accomodate my lacklustre gear).
     
    That's not to say if money tweren't a thang I wouldn't snag the IK (or the other sweet Ampeg emus out there) as well but I need a flexi tool.
     
    I've also expanded my experience/education massively since I first posted this thread and most definitely think MarkII is going to be much more useful than a more single purpose plug. I hate to say it but on top of that, I've kind of gotten the impression IK stuff is a bit of a PITA compared to my experiences with Overloud products (which I own quite a few of now through Sonar and through upgrades I sought out) so I've shied away from their brand/model. So many other sims/companies I am dying to try out before I sink dough into IK stuff.
     
    That said... their stuff does supposedly sound good, perhaps better than the others, but on a tight monetary and time budget that cash and study time can be put to better use elsewhere than a single use plugin... if that makes sense.
     
    Also as a current Overloud customer I get a MUCH better deal on MarkII so that's a pretty big factor in itself.
     
    tl;dr... I prefer flexible tools over boutique tools. Less overall money dropped and less time spent studying/wrangling with a new manufacturer.
     
    Cripes, I seem to spend a huge chunk of time just trying to learn how various companies actually DELIVER their products without even opening a manual (I'm looking at you XLN... you weirdos).
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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2015/09/19 13:52:59 (permalink)
    I really like the Mark Studio Bass simulator, it's very versatile and my Bass playing friends say it sounds and feels like a Bass Amp (very close to an actual amp), and the tones are "Great!"
     
    Good Luck..........

     
     
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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2015/09/19 17:11:49 (permalink)
    I've got both and haven't been using either lately.
    On my last song I used Klanghelm's MJUC, the Free TSE sansamp pedal and an Ampeg 8X10 IR.

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2015/09/19 19:34:51 (permalink)
    I used to be a diehard Audiffex GK Amp Pro user. Until I got Mark 2! You can get the SVT sound with Mark 2 fairly simply and still have all those other heads and cabs to boot. Some of the heads are a little overwhelming with all the features but once you study those knobs closer it is really pretty easy to get most anything that you can imagine out of it. I have Amplitube 3 (waiting on 4), Th2, GK, and Mark 2. Mark 2 is used 90% of the time. Sometimes, because of my addiction, I can not keep myself from using GK!

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    Re:Overloud Mark Studio 2 vs. IK Mulitmedia Ampeg SVX 2015/09/19 19:46:11 (permalink)
    I have Mark 2, GK2, TH2 (use only 4 guitar though), Cerebus Bass Amp, SHB-1 use it with some nice cab impulses, pretty good, Virtual Bass Amp and Virtual Bass Amp Pro, Revalver 4 has some nice stuff for bass and Bias Amp and Bias Fx also does, and Guitar Rig, don't use it so much though. Some days one sounds good, some days it's another
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