Android App DAW

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2015/06/03 11:57:38 (permalink)

Android App DAW

I plan on using my new Behringer XR-18 to record 16 tracks to a tablet DAW.
Does anyone have any suggestions for an Android DAW that will work well with Sonar?
Cheap or free is nice, I am just transferring files. I hope
 
 

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    Brando
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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/03 12:38:55 (permalink)
    If you are into electronica and related stuff, I bought FL Studio (about $20) for my Samsung Tablet when I am travelling. It's hardly a full DAW but works, is stable, etc and loads of fun to play with when I am away without access to my DAW. Android is prone to a lot of latency issues that make this sort of APP slower to develop relative to iPad/iPhone for which there are plenty more to choose.
     

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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/03 19:01:56 (permalink)
    If you have a Samsung device, and you are on Lollipop, you may want to check out Soundcamp.  I have only toyed with it, hoping it was similar to GarageBand, but latency is certainly something which is addressed.
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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/03 19:32:17 (permalink)
    pbognar
    If you have a Samsung device, and you are on Lollipop, you may want to check out Soundcamp.  I have only toyed with it, hoping it was similar to GarageBand, but latency is certainly something which is addressed.


    I have a Google Nexus 10 tablet, made by Samsung, running Lollipop 5.1. It is not compatible with Soundcamp.
     
    One recommendation I would make is to NOT pick a free app. Why? Free apps are either ad-supported or have severely restricted functionality. I don't think you want your Android DAW to be serving ads while you're trying to record. In a try-before-buy situation, not a big problem.
     
    I'd take a look at either the Audio Evolution Mobile DAW or the n-Track Studio Multitrack DAW (http://en.ntrack.com/andr..multitrack-studio.php). Many of the others are loopers, not really live recorders.
     
    Looking forward to your review of what you finally select. Bon chance!
    post edited by TheMaartian - 2015/06/03 19:42:16

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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/04 01:59:42 (permalink)
    After having my post disappear twice on submission ...
     
    'One-word' suggestions for now
     
    TouchDaw - Conttroller/Tools
     
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    Use with Sonar - dunno. 
    post edited by ShellstaX - 2015/06/04 02:06:03
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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/05 10:12:36 (permalink)
    Thanks for the suggestions
    I guess a better way to phrase the question is what specs do I look for in a Android DAW.
    I presume if it needs create at least 16 WAV files for Sonar to import them. Any other formatting specs I should look for?
     
    I don't think latency is not and issue, cus I plan to only use it to create the initial live mix and transfer the files to my studio PC for overdubs etc.  The tablet is an Acer. I agree cheap is better than free. I will post my findings when I things loaded and running.
     
    post edited by mcjoe - 2015/06/05 11:07:53

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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/05 11:15:09 (permalink)
    Audio Evolution works very well on my Galaxy S6....and saving wavs to export is a breeze....it's very well supported and budget friendly....wav files are a breeze ....deff worth trying for your application.
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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/06 02:18:05 (permalink)
    mcjoe
    I plan on using my new Behringer XR-18 to record 16 tracks to a tablet DAW.
    Does anyone have any suggestions for an Android DAW that will work well with Sonar?
    Cheap or free is nice, I am just transferring files. I hope
     
     


    a bit off topic ... but why don't you get yourself a windows tablet? you could use a full fledged Sonar with all features, don't have to worry about stability and could transfer projects directly between tablet DAW and regular DAW ... that's what I do and I love it - workflow is key :-)

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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/07 07:27:32 (permalink)
    I am working on a budget and selected the Acer android Tablet, purely on price before I knew what I was getting into. I purchased n-Track Pro, and so far I can't get it to run. I will do a little research and keep you all posted. 
    The XR-18 drivers do not seem to have a windows tablet driver, tho the windows PC driver might work?

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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/08 08:59:18 (permalink)
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    mcjoe
    I plan on using my new Behringer XR-18 to record 16 tracks to a tablet DAW.
    Does anyone have any suggestions for an Android DAW that will work well with Sonar?
    Cheap or free is nice, I am just transferring files. I hope
     
     


    a bit off topic ... but why don't you get yourself a windows tablet? you could use a full fledged Sonar with all features, don't have to worry about stability and could transfer projects directly between tablet DAW and regular DAW ... that's what I do and I love it - workflow is key :-)


    So, If I end up buying a new laptop or windows tablet to do my mobile recording, it does make sense to use Sonar for ease of transfer to my Sonarx3 in the studio.   What is the cheapest Sonar product that can input at least 16 audio tracks via usb.

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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/09 05:04:09 (permalink)
    I gave up on the n-Track Pro, could not get it to run on the tablet. 
     

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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/09 12:48:28 (permalink)
    I bought the Audio Evolution DAW, primarily because the developers: a) have developed their own hardware-level I/O driver and b) the devs own PreSonus AudioBox 22VSL and 1818VSL i/fs and have validated the 44VSL (which I own and am replacing with a Tascam US16x8 for SONAR).
     
    The Audio Evolution driver requires a Class-Compliant interface, so no device driver required.
     
    My new Tascam i/f will be here tomorrow, so it may be sometime Thursday or Friday (June 11-12) before I can test the AE DAW and audio driver with my 44VSL and my Nexus 10 tablet.
     
    One other thing...AE's in-app purchases.
     
    In many cases, an app will be useless to barely usable without a bunch of in-app purchases. I think the AE devs have done a really good job of segmenting the cost of the app. The DAW itself is US$6.99. The custom audio driver is US$6.71. If you have a MIDI keyboard that you want to connect and play as a virtual instrument, that'll cost you another $7. Then you can add soundsets.
     
    I have a MIDI keyboard, but it's not leaving my home studio, so I have no need for a mobile interface to it. $6.71 I don't need to spend, but would have had to if the app was just full-priced, all extensions installed and enabled. So, for me, the segmented pricing worked.
     
    @mcjoe
     
    Go to the Google Play Store and search on the Audio Evolution Mobile DAW. Look for that developer's app called "USB Audio Recorder PRO". Select "Read More" and then follow the link for tested devices and more info. There are a couple of tables near the bottom that list working and non-working tablets. There are Acers in both lists. The ones listed as non-working don't support USB Host Mode. There is also some discussion about the required USB OTG cable.
     
    May give you some insight into why n-Track isn't working (yet?) on your tablet.
    post edited by TheMaartian - 2015/06/09 12:56:14

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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/09 13:23:09 (permalink)
    Audio Evolution Mobile DAW looks like it is worth looking into. I would be interested to hear how things go with the Tascam i/f.

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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/09 13:39:12 (permalink)
    Correct me if I am wrong, USB Audio Recorder PRO is a stand alone and does not need, Audio Evolution Mobile DAW?

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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/09 13:53:01 (permalink)
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    Correct me if I am wrong, USB Audio Recorder PRO is a stand alone and does not need, Audio Evolution Mobile DAW?


    That is true. It can be either a stand-alone app, or authorized from within the DAW as an in-app purchase. If you're having i/o problems (I'm assuming you're using an OTG cable), you can try their Recorder app (do some research first to see if it has worked with n-Track before). If that works, great! If not, and you pick up their DAW later, you won't need to spend the money again. The DAW will find the license for the Recorder PRO app and use it.
     
    Also, make VERY sure that your tablet supports Host Mode on its USB port.
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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/10 13:09:41 (permalink)
    I finally got an answer form n-track why it will not run on my tablet.
    " It appears there's a bug related to a system library on the Iconia One 7 used by our app. We are now working on a workaround to the issue. " 
     
    I think I will demo: USB Audio Recorder PRO and Audio Evolution Mobile DAW

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    Re: Android App DAW 2015/06/16 11:55:42 (permalink)
    n-track fixed their "bug" and I am going to give it a try and see how cumbersome it is to import into Sonar.
     

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