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[Answered] ProChannel overload lights
I just installed PC Expanded. I am a little confused over the LED lights for the various components of ProChannel. Some lights go red when overloaded, some do not. Should all lights never be orange or red? Also, what color LED is recommended for TubeSat? I captured a piece of the Cakewalk animation from the PC Expanded web showing all these different lights. Too early to comment on this? Thanks. Rimshot Jing link: http://screencast.com/t/MGBCfpdQBK
post edited by Willy Jones [Cakewalk] - 2011/10/06 17:07:24
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Keni
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Re:ProChannel overload lights
2011/10/06 15:29:07
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I was just making comments about the loss of the PC "meters" on the input strips... Now replaced with a single meter that reads the loudest peak of all devices in the PC if I understand what was explained to me...
Obviously having asomewhat unlimited number of modules made discrete module monitoring impossible (?) on the input strip... So this was chosen in it's place...
I think they should have left the three meters and allowed the user to choose which device to assign to each meter....
But who am I to offer suggestions... ;-)
Keni
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Re:ProChannel overload lights
2011/10/06 15:33:49
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Hi Keni,
I meant the LED's on PC, not within the chain. I hear your point though but I am trying to understand the LED's on the main PC strip first.
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Re:ProChannel overload lights
2011/10/06 15:36:11
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Sorry...
I understand and would love to hear some answers to your questions as well... I was a bit wired to my thoughts as I had just finished chatting with a cake rep about the issue I mentioned...
I didn't mean to de-rail your post, only to confirm that there are meter issues with Expanded...
Sorry...
Keni
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Re:ProChannel overload lights
2011/10/06 15:40:18
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No worries. I hope CW can comment. I don't think this is a hard question but I can't find any help on this anywhere (yet anyway!).
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Re:ProChannel overload lights
2011/10/06 16:24:02
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I hope one of the Bakers chimes in with some info...
I was wondering much the same tho I hadn't investigated it enuf yet...
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Re:ProChannel overload lights
2011/10/06 16:36:04
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Re:ProChannel overload lights
2011/10/06 16:49:49
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The leds are rough indicators. Only so much you can do with a single dot :)
Reddest color is held momentarily to indicate 0dBFS or higher (due to float values)
Orange is approx -1.5 dBFS
Yellow is approx -6 to -12 dbFS
YellowGreen is approx -12 dbFS to -18dbFS
Down from there is dimmer versions of Green.
Can't really see much of it past -48dbFS.
Hope that helps. Don't get too hung up on the level points.
Also they are latency independent now. Previously they were not. So that means you see it light up when you hear it as opposed to when it gets the signal.
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Re:ProChannel overload lights
2011/10/06 17:08:28
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Thanks Keith...
That helps, but I think there's a question as to some of them not showing color changes when driven to overload... Let's see if Rimshot can shed some light on this?
BTW... Nice to have them latency independent for sure!
Keni
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Re:ProChannel overload lights
2011/10/06 17:26:58
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Thanks Keith, I notice that the Saturation knobs LED goes to orange (not red)and it doesn't track like the LED at the top of it's window by the on/off button. Up there, the LED seems to glow a little more toward red than the knob. The PK4 Gate doesn't seem to get to red at all. It looks like there may be different colors indicating overload based on the module? On my system, it seems that way. It would be great if the LED's overload colors were consistant throughout. Maybe a feature request? Rimshot
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Re:ProChannel overload lights
2011/10/07 06:21:20
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The metering code for each module is identical. By that I mean the led in the header where the module power button is.
There is no difference in metering nor in the source bitmap used. It's central code.
Feed the same source material to each module enabled one at a time and see for yourself.
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Re:ProChannel overload lights
2011/10/07 14:42:51
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Hi Keith,
Thanks for your reply. I can overload PC EQ and the PC4K modules and see "red" on the LED. I cannot overload Softube and see "red" but only "orange". Should I see "red" on Softube overload?
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Re:ProChannel overload lights
2011/10/07 17:28:19
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I definitely see it turn red on softube. Crank the input gain on a track high enough with a loud enough audio signal and it should turn red.
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