[Answered] Snapshot Automation

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[Answered] Snapshot Automation

I should know this but it just hasn't come up.  I have a decent mix and want to take a snapshot so the faders will all be in the right places when the track starts.  I may automate other movements later, but want thing to start where I have them.  Can someone advise?
 
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    Anderton
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    Re: Snapshot Automation 2013/11/10 01:32:04 (permalink)
    Individual control snapshots: Place the now time where you want to take the snapshot. Right-click on the control whose state you want to enter as an automation node, then select Automation Snapshot. This places a node on the automation envelope.
     
    Doing a snapshot of a parameter in all tracks: This is more complicated but Quick Grouping makes it simpler. Remember, though, that Quick Grouping works only on tracks of the same type (audio, MIDI, buses). We'll assume you want a snapshot of the audio track Volume levels. The object is to set all tracks for Automation Overwrite so once your levels are set, when you hit play these levels will overwrite any existing automation to create your snapshot.
     
    Select all tracks. While holding down Ctrl, select Volume for the edit filter. While still holding down Ctrl, click the Automation Write button. Open an Inspector for the selected track and click the Track tab. While holding down Ctrl, select Overwrite under Automation Write Mode. If Read is enabled, hold Ctrl and click Read so all reads are turned off. Now all your tracks are set for Automation Overwrite.
     
    Click Play, and automation nodes will be entered for the levels you set. Keeping playing until you want to do another snapshot. Stop. Turn automation write off, then play the section so you can set the levels as desired. Once that's done, set the now time where you want the snapshot, re-enable automation write, and click play.
     
    This sounds more complicated than it is...once you set up the first snapshot, the rest are pretty easy as you move through the song. Just remember to turn off automation write when you're checking out what levels you want, otherwise all your fader movements will be written. Of course, if you play around with the levels after where you want the snapshot, you can just overwrite them by continuing to hit play after the snapshot.
     
     
    post edited by Anderton - 2013/11/10 01:51:16

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    Re: Snapshot Automation 2013/11/10 08:02:54 (permalink)
    Very creative answer, Craig. I've never used the newish settings for automation write this to achieve this sort of thing but it makes perfect sense.
     
    I often make single long recordings of concerts I run sound for (I'm doing it at a Vineyard later today) and adding notes to lots of tracks at once is handy to create isolation for the envelopes between the different tracks.
     
    This video shows how I do it...
    http://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=MJiqjyJnAvg
     

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
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    Re: Snapshot Automation 2013/11/10 10:57:33 (permalink)
    gswitz
    Very creative answer, Craig. I've never used the newish settings for automation write this to achieve this sort of thing but it makes perfect sense.
     
    I often make single long recordings of concerts I run sound for (I'm doing it at a Vineyard later today) and adding notes to lots of tracks at once is handy to create isolation for the envelopes between the different tracks.
     
    This video shows how I do it...
    http://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=MJiqjyJnAvg
     


    Link is bad.  Probably should be 
      http://youtu.be/MJiqjyJnAvg 
     

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    Re: Snapshot Automation 2013/11/10 14:26:11 (permalink)
    Craig, Thanks very much for taking the time to answer so thoroughly.  This is excellent.
     
    I do ride faders for some tracks with Write enabled, of course, but I got used to the snapshot feature back in the days of the VS-1680 and have always found it handy to ensure a song always starts out right.
     
    Much appreciated.

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    Re: Snapshot Automation 2013/11/10 17:48:20 (permalink)
    konradh
    Craig, Thanks very much for taking the time to answer so thoroughly.  This is excellent.
     
    I do ride faders for some tracks with Write enabled, of course, but I got used to the snapshot feature back in the days of the VS-1680 and have always found it handy to ensure a song always starts out right.
     
    Much appreciated.




    Glad to help!! It helped me too, I didn't use this approach but thought it was possible, so I had to figure it out to answer your question. I think I'll be doing this in the future to set "rough automation" settings among different sections. So, thanks for asking.

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    Re: Snapshot Automation 2013/11/10 21:09:56 (permalink)
    Thanks, TheSteven.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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