Helpful Reply[Answered] Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip?

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2014/05/30 23:37:01 (permalink)

[Answered] Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip?

Usually on a console, you start at the trim/gain...then move down to the EQ ...then sends, etc... with the fadar just being last. 
 
Admittedly still new....but I'll jack around with a gain knob when on input echo... and nothing happens.  Try to put a stereo FX somewhere..to have it mono-ized.... figure out where the ProChannel fits compared to the FX bin... 
I'm sure it's written down in the manual somewhere..... that I can't seem to find.  Not to mention, the manual is like what...10 billion pages long!!    well...at least 2K isn't it?

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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/05/30 23:39:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mudgel 2014/05/31 04:25:40
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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/05/30 23:46:02 (permalink)
nice pic...makes me feel like I don't know how to look anything up.   But how does the ProChannel come in and out.  Seems I don't have any choices, unlike the pre/post send buttons.  It looks like the signal is split and run parallel with the PC to the FX bin?   Isn't that kind of weird?  Any way to make that series?

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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/05/30 23:51:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby maphill 2017/02/25 10:31:46
The proChannel has a pre/post FX bin switch in the inspector, the proChannel context menu and console view.
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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/05/31 00:44:08 (permalink)
scook...   I'm broke, but wish I could Paypal you.

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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/05/31 00:54:17 (permalink)
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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/05/31 06:22:58 (permalink)
Good Doc, SCOOK!   MIXMKR - you might want to visit the LINK and print it out as there are additional written notes at the bottom of the LINK to give you additional understanding of the signal flow.
 
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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/06/04 20:03:29 (permalink)
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from http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X3&language=3&help=Mixing.07.html




As far as I can tell, this diagram does not allow for ProChannel on busses.
 

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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/06/04 20:07:34 (permalink)
I'd venture to say, the block diagram of the buss...specifically the stereo buss, omits the FX bin, etc...which would be similar to the track.  It looks to be 'simplified' in the block diagram

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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/06/04 23:07:16 (permalink)
Stereo/mono button seems to be missing. I would assume the point where stereo could be converted into mono is at the end.

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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/06/05 10:19:06 (permalink)
Stereo/mono button seems to be missing

No it's in there. Look between the input gain and the FX bin. The Prochannel is a little weird in the drawing as it does look like it can be set up to bypass the FX bin - but scook has cleared it all up

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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/06/05 11:29:46 (permalink)
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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/06/05 12:57:44 (permalink)
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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/06/05 13:17:55 (permalink)
Good illustration Mike.

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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/06/05 16:29:13 (permalink)
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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/06/05 16:35:29 (permalink)
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Stereo/mono button seems to be missing

No it's in there. Look between the input gain and the FX bin. The Prochannel is a little weird in the drawing as it does look like it can be set up to bypass the FX bin - but scook has cleared it all up


Are we saying mono/stereo goes before any Fx? If so I've just coughed up all my sweets... As I figured it would be just before Pan.

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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/06/05 17:30:45 (permalink)
I would assume it goes before fx, otherwise what would be the point of true stereo fx?
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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/06/05 17:52:16 (permalink)
Point taken.
However that basically means that turning stereo FX into mono would be impossible without additional plugin functionality (or it being built into the plugin itself)...
Guess I'm being thick here...

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Re: Where does the ProChannel fit into the "block diagram" of the console strip? 2014/06/06 05:57:44 (permalink)
Doesn't it just mean that both L and R in a stereo plugin would get the same signal (if the interleave was set for mono)?
 
I think you might be reading too much in to it:
- set the track mono or stereo
- FX will now work in mono or stereo
- it the plugin can't handle it - it barfs
 
Of course - there's always the chance that I'm being too somplistic ;-)

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