Anti virus..... what one ?

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2010/08/11 17:01:52 (permalink)

Anti virus..... what one ?

Hi guys if i was going to put my music computer on the net what would be the best anti virus to use ?

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    Re:Anti virus..... what one ? 2010/08/11 17:02:43 (permalink)
    I use Avast and it seems to work ok without causing too many issues.
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    Re:Anti virus..... what one ? 2010/08/12 09:32:24 (permalink)
    only 2 are good for audio MS Essentials (free)
    and Nod 32 (Eset)

    i would not touch any other for audio...

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    Re:Anti virus..... what one ? 2010/08/12 10:36:20 (permalink)
    Again, I use Avast with the shields I don't need turned off and it is no different on my machine audio wise than not using it at all. AVG and Norton are hogs though.
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    Re:Anti virus..... what one ? 2010/08/12 11:46:24 (permalink)
    ESET's NOD32  (eset.com)
     

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    Re:Anti virus..... what one ? 2010/08/15 08:06:46 (permalink)
    Maybe I'm the exception that proves the rule, but I haven't had any sort of active antivirus software running on any machine for many years. Nor a software firewall, as of late, for that matter.

    As a computer technician and enthusiast I tend to shy away from processes that chew up clock cycles unnecessarily, and those processes include most if not all security applications. In my humble opinion security is more a matter or *regular maintenance* and *common sense* than anything else.


    In fact, in the last eight or ten years, sticking to my common-sense-and-maintenance regimen I can report exactly zero malware-related problems. The computer I'm typing at now (a general-purpose machine with an E2140, 2GB RAM and XP SP3) still boots up and responds like it did the day I built it. My previous general purpose desktop ran perfectly for six years straight until it died from traumas related to overseas shipping, poor thing.


    Common sense precautions include things like:
    • Thinking twice before clicking on links on a web page or email or chat window.
    • Turning off Autoplay so that Windows doesn't blindly execute the autorun.inf when you mount a drive
    • Using a VM or a "sandbox" machine to try out new or unfamiliar software or run shady executables.

    I also keep handy, as a safety net, a ghost image of my system partition in optimal configuration. In my experience if/when one *does* pick up an infection it can take  longer to thoroughly clean it out than it would to just restore the partition image and start fresh. It's come in handy a number of times (although not on my machines).

    That said, I actually *do* have an anitvirus program on my machines but as a "portable" app that's not installed and not constantly running in the background. I use ClamWin portable and I run the executable on-demand only when I need to scan a particular file or group of files.

    Same goes for other TSR scanners like SuperAntiSpyware, Spybot, etc.  By all means have them handy and run them once in a while but, for the love of DAW, there's no need for them to monitor every I/O operation.

    Piyono


    p.s. Out of curiousity, while typing this post I ran SuperAntiSpyware for the first time in months. Came up as clean as you could want for any working system. One "trojan" alert but I investigated and it was negligible.
    post edited by Piyono - 2010/08/15 08:10:57
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    Re:Anti virus..... what one ? 2010/08/15 19:22:14 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info guys :)

    I think whati might do is take no chances and get my self a note book put a good anti virus on that then network it across then I can just down load to that anti v it then pull it on the the audio rig

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    Re:Anti virus..... what one ? 2010/08/16 10:18:28 (permalink)
    MS Essentials and Eset do not "chew up" CPU
     and the little an AV might is a moot point as far as power is concerned.
    the issues with AV is DPC spiking that has to do with ACPI

    again Essentials an Eset do not have this issue.

    i do not recommend being on the internet without.
    but Piyono makes some very valid points about common sense.

    Norrie just get MS Essentials its free.


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    Re:Anti virus..... what one ? 2010/08/16 14:34:29 (permalink)
    PC Tools Spyware Doctor, no problems so far.  I only enable it when I'm online.  Usually disabled when I'm working on my DAW.
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    Re:Anti virus..... what one ? 2010/08/16 16:42:17 (permalink)
    Just a small point I'd mention. MS essentials is excellent , but when you install it, it will run a OS validation. 

    I go with your idea of a DAW that does not go on the net and a second cheap netbook for web stuff. Just scan everything that's headed for the DAW. I have not installed AV in both my DAWS for 10 years. If you are not (stupid) careless you should not ever need it.
    AVG sucks, Avast is good but tends to update even when you shut it off.  I now use MS essentials on both my office and netbook machines,  been invisible so far. 

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    Re:Anti virus..... what one ? 2010/08/16 18:38:00 (permalink)
    jcschild


    MS Essentials and Eset do not "chew up" CPU
     and the little an AV might is a moot point as far as power is concerned.
    the issues with AV is DPC spiking that has to do with ACPI

    again Essentials an Eset do not have this issue.

    i do not recommend being on the internet without.
    but Piyono makes some very valid points about common sense.

    Norrie just get MS Essentials its free.

    Very sloppy choice of words on my part. I should have proof-read my previous post before submitting.
    The big performance hit with many AV packages — for general computer users —  is not on the CPU (although some programs play nicer than others) but from the constant scanning of executables or libraries as they're loaded into memory. 

    It's been a while since I've used any kind of real-time monitoring software on any of my machines but as I recall they would add significant a significant amount of time to system startup and application launches. They also stalled drive mounting and made an otherwise snappy system feel a bit sluggish. I played with exclusion lists and so forth but at the end of the day I just dumped AV software altogether and haven't regretted a moment since.

    And, yes, I've tried 'em all. At least up until a few years ago. These days I'm familiar with Avast because that's what I install for clients who insist on an AV because they seem to derive a sense of comfort from seeing the little 'a' spin around.

    Anyway, to the OP, I'm no slouch when it comes to Windows machines, but audio computers are a specialized field, and specialties require specialists. Scott has undoubtedly done far more (and more intensive) research on this topic than I have or will. When it comes to matters of the DAW I listen to Scott (unless I can't understand what he's typed, which is sometimes).

    Bottom line: Listen to Scott.



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    Re:Anti virus..... what one ? 2010/08/28 11:19:33 (permalink)
    All 8 computers in the house, including the music computer, are connected to the router, and the internet. 4 have AV software, 4 do not. I have had 3 virus infections in 20 years. None on the computers without AV.

    Spybot is on the four computer with AV, 2 are used by the kids, mine, and the wife's.

    The only programs that auto-update are the AV programs. I never let windows auto-update. And I always install hardware updates separately.

    I update windows on ALL computers at least weekly. And occasionally scan with spybot, and with the kaspersky av removal tool. Rarely find anything.

    Currently using MS essentials on main office computer, others are using various free porgrams: avast, avg,... The music computer has no AV. I often visit these forums with the music computer when in need of info.

    Major NO NO: do not set the mouse to automatically move to the default button. I am sure a number of clients got infected because of this cleverly-stupid feature.

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    Re:Anti virus..... what one ? 2010/08/28 12:38:51 (permalink)
    As per my knowledge the best antivirus is Quick heal 2010. It is most preferred and recommended by the experts.
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