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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/23 19:21:07
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Purple Rhapsody Love the silly sentiment - it's a great fun song. Enjoyed it immensely! Cheers, Terry.
Thanks Terry... I do appreciate the great feedback... I'm still trying to listen to your tune on SC... It just won't play for me... I recently uploaded a more refined mix on BandCamp..."Anymore Or Less"http://tanton.bandcamp.com/track/anymore-or-less
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/23 19:26:55
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Re: Any More Or Less
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Rimshot Love the arrangement and playing. I would rewrite the lyrics and make it as meaningful as the music. How about writing about how much you do love her? The song is so upbeat and fun. Tell us you love her more... :) Rimshot but in the song; I don't love her anymore... or less. great feedback... Thanks for indulging me Jimmy...
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/24 15:36:08
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Well, earthling, I will have to say that although the mix was on the higher frequency end (to my ears), the harmonies and instruments were flawless. I THINK THE LYRICS ARE CLEVER AND EASY TO LISTEN TO AND UNDERSTAND. Personally I don't see any silliness in them at all. I do hear heartfelt sentiments so somewhere along the line you must have felt something like this. So, it had that "higher frequency" mix sound but I liked it the more I listened (3 times). The song itself is GREAT. Did I say I loved the chord changes and harmonies? I did.
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/24 20:09:16
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Frank - you never miss - this is such an entertaining tune - love it.
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Re: Any More Or Less
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Re: Any More Or Less
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Re: Any More Or Less
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/25 09:16:44
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Hi, Besides the fact that the whole production and performance is great, I like the Lyrics! You turn negative into positive here! Thnx for sharing! Regards,
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/25 16:21:42
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Fife Great job on your song. I especially like the dobro and piano playing :-) I like your vocal harmonies also. It sounds somewhat like the kinds of harmonies that Steve Miller used on a lot of his songs. --Jim
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/25 23:04:29
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timidi nice
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/25 23:51:43
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/26 07:20:41
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I am not sure why folks think these lyrics are silly...they work great. This is actually one of my favorite Frank tunes. I get what you are going for with the vocals, but my feelings are a more natural (less staccato) vocal take on the verses would work better and then go to the existing chorus. And that is some infectious music bed. Well done.
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/26 07:52:20
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In addition to the harmonies sounding a bit like Steve Miller (which I do also hear), this song (especially the harmonies) reminds me a bit of something by the Little River Band.
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/26 18:43:02
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evadianepug Well, earthling, I will have to say that although the mix was on the higher frequency end (to my ears), the harmonies and instruments were flawless. I THINK THE LYRICS ARE CLEVER AND EASY TO LISTEN TO AND UNDERSTAND. Personally I don't see any silliness in them at all. I do hear heartfelt sentiments so somewhere along the line you must have felt something like this. So, it had that "higher frequency" mix sound but I liked it the more I listened (3 times). The song itself is GREAT. Did I say I loved the chord changes and harmonies? I did.
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/26 22:16:08
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This one is great! I think the lyrics are excellent! Really fun song. I like the more modern drum mix and the tight bass. And the different guitars and fiddle and other stringed instruments fill it out nicely.
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/27 01:57:52
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Hey Frank, yup it`s damn catchy but god do I hate autotune LOL!!!!!!!
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/27 03:25:09
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Frank, I love stuff like this. The auto-tune is the only issue I had with the song. It's poppy, fun, makes you move, and some country star would make it a hit just the way it is if THEY wrote it and performed it. Don't ever feel anything is silly. It's your art...it's unique, it's a piece of you. Sometimes we're silly and act like kids no matter how old we are. Sometimes we're mad, sometimes we're sad....songs are an extension of everything, ya know? I think it was great that you shared this. Wou ldhave loved to hear it without auto-tune with your strong vocal the way I know it to be. Playing and mix was really good too! Well done as usual brother. :) -Danny
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Re: Any More Or Less
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/29 14:21:28
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Noisy Neighbour Hi, Besides the fact that the whole production and performance is great, I like the Lyrics! You turn negative into positive here! Thnx for sharing! Regards, Thank you Daniel... very nice of you to say... The Band19 "Who's your daddy?" (I'm sorry for that right there Lord.)
jamesyoyo I am not sure why folks think these lyrics are silly...they work great. This is actually one of my favorite Frank tunes. I get what you are going for with the vocals, but my feelings are a more natural (less staccato) vocal take on the verses would work better and then go to the existing chorus. And that is some infectious music bed. Well done.
James... great to hear from you again... I hope you're getting on well... I appreciate the feedback... and I agree... I don't think the lyrics are silly either... Waltenstein Studios In addition to the harmonies sounding a bit like Steve Miller (which I do also hear), this song (especially the harmonies) reminds me a bit of something by the Little River Band.
Thanks again Walt... that's quite a compliment... I saw "LRB" live in Pensacola, way back in the late '70s... they were knocked out...
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/09/30 21:39:52
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guitartrek This one is great! I think the lyrics are excellent! Really fun song. I like the more modern drum mix and the tight bass. And the different guitars and fiddle and other stringed instruments fill it out nicely.
Thanks for the nice feedback Geno... I'm really glad you liked it...
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/10/01 13:03:36
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Hey Frank, this is a real grinner, nice upbeat, fun song. Dobro work is really fine, reminds me of Jerry Douglas. The vocal is a little buried, and has a bit of a metallic Melodyne sound to it (is that on the harmonies?), but the melody itself works fine for me. Good hooky song. I like that photo too, I always think you're bracing yourself 'cos there's a boulder rolling down that slope..
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/10/01 13:51:33
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A little silly in our lives help us cope with the unsilly. It made me smile and the mix bounced around my room nice. Thanks for being silly and sharing your silly with us.
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/10/01 21:02:20
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I love it. It has your usual great performance and production. Your harmonies are great also. Ya, the lyrics are silly and to me terrific. In my mind, you gotta have fun with your music --- at least some of the time ---- and this song ain't nothin' but fun! It's great to go in a different direction sometimes -- isn't it? Terrific stuff Frank!!!
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/10/02 11:46:34
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alkie Hey Frank, yup it`s damn catchy but god do I hate autotune LOL!!!!!!!
Thanks for listening alkie... it is "catchy", but I gotta' tell ya... I couldn't care less about what you "hate" Danny Danzi Frank, I love stuff like this. The auto-tune is the only issue I had with the song. It's poppy, fun, makes you move, and some country star would make it a hit just the way it is if THEY wrote it and performed it. Don't ever feel anything is silly. It's your art...it's unique, it's a piece of you. Sometimes we're silly and act like kids no matter how old we are. Sometimes we're mad, sometimes we're sad....songs are an extension of everything, ya know? I think it was great that you shared this. Wou ldhave loved to hear it without auto-tune with your strong vocal the way I know it to be. Playing and mix was really good too! Well done as usual brother. :) -Danny
Thank you Danny, I appreciate the friendly encouragement... I can't remember saying I thought anything was silly... " " My wife said this is a stupid song... I said, I thought it had a clever hook, and a melody that would stick in yer head... what do I know..? " " Frankly, I don't understand the bias against the use of vocal pitch/time processing... the way I see it... it's just another production decision/tool... generally speaking, over-processed guitars bother me more than over-processed vocals... but that's just me... I purposely do not listen to much modern pop music, and I know I'm terminally un-hip... I always appreciate your words my friend... jamesg1213 Hey Frank, this is a real grinner, nice upbeat, fun song. Dobro work is really fine, reminds me of Jerry Douglas. The vocal is a little buried, and has a bit of a metallic Melodyne sound to it (is that on the harmonies?), but the melody itself works fine for me. Good hooky song. I like that photo too, I always think you're bracing yourself 'cos there's a boulder rolling down that slope..
it's great to hear from you James... yes, Dave Sconyers is bada$$... very cool to work with too... I did have some Melodyne fun with the Vox processing... but not on the harmonies... that's just me singing with some very short delay, and a little verb... as for the picture, "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"... but "I still, always feel, I'm about to roll down that hill"... I may have to use that last line in a song... As always, I'm looking forward to hearing your next project...
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/10/02 12:40:16
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Yeah... I have to agree.... I like the song but the vocal processing is the only thing that stands out to me as "could be better"..... natural voice with the organic instruments. The lyrics are not an issue and they are just fine. Nothing profound, just a fun pop song with better instrumentation than most pop songs these days. The intro is under 13 seconds, nice pre-chorus, and into the chorus before 60 seconds.... nice universal lyrics so... it fits the formula pretty well. For pitching, shorten the solo to a turn around of a few measures and shorten the tag.
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/10/02 13:34:12
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notnat Thank you Danny, I appreciate the friendly encouragement... I can't remember saying I thought anything was silly... " " My wife said this is a stupid song... I said, I thought it had a clever hook, and a melody that would stick in yer head... what do I know..? " " Frankly, I don't understand the bias against the use of vocal pitch/time processing... the way I see it... it's just another production decision/tool... generally speaking, over-processed guitars bother me more than over-processed vocals... but that's just me... I purposely do not listen to much modern pop music, and I know I'm terminally un-hip... I always appreciate your words my friend... My apologies Frank....I just remembered seeing the word silly or something in this thread and was speaking in general. This tune is awesome in my book. I'm a sucker for a hook no matter how serious or non-serious....as long as it hooks me and you did...like you always do. LOL! Ah the auto-tune thing....well, I'll give you my take for what it's worth. I think that when someone uses it in a dance or techno song, it's acceptable because 8 times out of 10, the instrumentation in material like that is synthetic. So it's actually adding to the whole "theme" in my opinion. When you add the auto-tune thing to rock, country, blues, etc....to me (just my opinion) it just doesn't fit especially when the artist CAN really sing. For example, I've always liked Cher and even accepted that song she did that had that on it because it fit so well. But rest assured, if she would have done that on "Turn Back Time" I would have hated it completely as to me, it just doesn't fit and literally takes AWAY from the material at hand. If you do crazy music like the kids do today where they mix rock and hip-hop and other hybrids, it's totally acceptable to have a more robotic voice going on. But when you're YOU....the guy that delivers the goods in all areas time and time again while making the rest of us green with envy with your awesome style, it just sort of sends one for a loop. Do it in a dance tune and I promise I won't make a mention of it. LOL! Processed guitar tones.....guilty as charged here. It's probably due to what I was brought up on. I never much liked 50's to 70's guitar tones. When I heard the guitar tones of the 80's, I loved them so much I stopped playing drums and picked up a guitar. That's how influential they were for me....enough to make me quit an instrument. No, you're not terminally un-hip....you're entitled to not listen to something that makes you cringe bro. The same as I cringe listening to the older tones. (like Steve Howe of YES for example) The players are fantastic, but their tones to me were like nails on a chalk-board where the tones *I* like are what I call "cats in a meatgrinder" but they have to be controlled. :) Whatever the case, I've always loved your tones, your playing and they always fit the material perfectly. :) -Danny
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/10/02 18:33:47
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Danny Danzi My apologies Frank....I just remembered seeing the word silly or something in this thread and was speaking in general. This tune is awesome in my book. I'm a sucker for a hook no matter how serious or non-serious....as long as it hooks me and you did...like you always do. LOL! Ah the auto-tune thing....well, I'll give you my take for what it's worth. I think that when someone uses it in a dance or techno song, it's acceptable because 8 times out of 10, the instrumentation in material like that is synthetic. So it's actually adding to the whole "theme" in my opinion. When you add the auto-tune thing to rock, country, blues, etc....to me (just my opinion) it just doesn't fit especially when the artist CAN really sing. For example, I've always liked Cher and even accepted that song she did that had that on it because it fit so well. But rest assured, if she would have done that on "Turn Back Time" I would have hated it completely as to me, it just doesn't fit and literally takes AWAY from the material at hand. If you do crazy music like the kids do today where they mix rock and hip-hop and other hybrids, it's totally acceptable to have a more robotic voice going on. But when you're YOU....the guy that delivers the goods in all areas time and time again while making the rest of us green with envy with your awesome style, it just sort of sends one for a loop. Do it in a dance tune and I promise I won't make a mention of it. LOL! Processed guitar tones.....guilty as charged here. It's probably due to what I was brought up on. I never much liked 50's to 70's guitar tones. When I heard the guitar tones of the 80's, I loved them so much I stopped playing drums and picked up a guitar. That's how influential they were for me....enough to make me quit an instrument. No, you're not terminally un-hip....you're entitled to not listen to something that makes you cringe bro. The same as I cringe listening to the older tones. (like Steve Howe of YES for example) The players are fantastic, but their tones to me were like nails on a chalk-board where the tones *I* like are what I call "cats in a meatgrinder" but they have to be controlled. :) Whatever the case, I've always loved your tones, your playing and they always fit the material perfectly. :) -Danny
Please, no apologies necessary Danny... I love the fact that some listeners find the lyrics silly, and some don't... I figured the tuned up vocal would get a rise out of some folks... no one disliked it any more than Dave, the fiddle player... I just told him the same thing I told alkie... I just appreciate all the positive feedback from you and everyone else... I totally get what you're saying about guitar tones, vocal-fx, genres, perception, & preferences... and I agree.., but Steve Howe's guitar tone, Squire's treble pick-Bass and the Singer's weird/unique voice is exactly why I loved "Yes"... (at first, until I grew totaly sick of the same ol' sound) Thank heaven for all our differences... Thanks again Danny for the good ears, compliments and articulation... I love your "cats in a meatgrinder" sound btw... with your heart, head & hands always in control...
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Re: Any More Or Less
2013/10/03 11:05:42
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Wookiee A little silly in our lives help us cope with the unsilly. It made me smile and the mix bounced around my room nice. Thanks for being silly and sharing your silly with us.
Thanks for the positive feedback Wookee... I absolutely love to hear all the different reactions from my friends here on the forum... here are some of the words used to describe this song... stupid, clever, whimsical, jumpy, semi-cajun, cute, great, commercial, "neither profound or stupid", catchy, likeable, fun, simple, less-cerebral, ELO-ish, processed, silly, upbeat, "nice", meaningful, heartfelt, infectious, not-silly, staccato, excellent, damn catchy, autotuned, grinner, hooky, matallic, poppy, terrific, silly, bada$$, fun-pop, organic, awesome, , silly... I love you all... Thankyou...
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