Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga?

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2012/09/18 16:55:13 (permalink)

Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga?

I'm sure I asked about this before but didn't find it searching just now...

...and I'm hoping something has changed.

I've been using VSampler to play my Gigastudio sample in the 32bit world...

Now moving to 64bit I find that the DXi's don't work and the vst is only 32bit and will not load in X1

I found a sampler called Linux Player (?) but it's very weird and seems to be missing some features that are important for me...

First off it seems to lead FXTeleport so it is actually not even local. It's running online somehow and it's surprising that it works as well as it does.... I might have lived with that for a time, but I tried to add an lfo to modulate the pitch (vibrato) with a midi controller as I often do and can't find any such abilities in it.

Any info regarding the use and the working of this synth would be helpful...

But even better would be a recommendation for a solid Sample Player that can load/play Gigasampler libraries...

Much Thanks...
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    Jim Roseberry
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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/18 17:00:28 (permalink)
    But even better would be a recommendation for a solid Sample Player that can load/play Gigasampler libraries...



    You probably won't like the answer... but I'd bite the bullet and get Kontakt (Komplete)
    It'll load/play Giga libraries... and (obviously) a whole lot more.

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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/18 20:20:07 (permalink)
    Jim Roseberry



    But even better would be a recommendation for a solid Sample Player that can load/play Gigasampler libraries...



    You probably won't like the answer... but I'd bite the bullet and get Kontakt (Komplete)
    It'll load/play Giga libraries... and (obviously) a whole lot more.

    +1....Kontakt is a great sample player....not sure if the Kontakt Player will play Giga samples or not...but if it does the Player is FREE!


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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/18 21:28:06 (permalink)
    I converted most of my older Giga VSL libraries with Kontakt. It works pretty well for the most part.
    I also have SampleLord that I purchased before I got Kontakt. That works for well for many types of files too including Giga but it hasn't been updated for a while.
    There's a few others that I can't remember at the moment...

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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/19 02:09:27 (permalink)
    Nothing to lose, except for burning a bit of band width, in trying the free Kontakt player, but I suspect the Gig files will only work in demo mode and time out after 20?? minutes. It will however give you a chance to see if you like the interface.

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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/19 03:27:34 (permalink)
    Have been meaning to try this one for awhile:
     
    http://soundlib.com/gplayer/
     
     

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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/19 10:19:13 (permalink)
    Have been meaning to try this one for awhile:   http://soundlib.com/gplayer/


    Giga format is dead... and support is going to get worse over time.
    Ultimately (unfortunately)... you're going to be forced to a different soft-sampler.
    It's not cheap, but (IMO) you're best off taking that $150 and applying it toward Kontakt.  

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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/19 12:03:51 (permalink)
    There is a free gigaplayer called CV Piano-GVI Powered by Tascam. It comes with a free piano that is quite good. This is a free download. I can't remember the link but you should be able to launch a search. It is still out there somewhere because I tipped someone asking for freebie pianos and they found it. They were really impressed with it. Anyway, it comes as a sixteen track player and you can load your other giga instruments. You do have to use ReWire if you want to use it in Sonar. Good Luck!

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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/19 12:16:25 (permalink)
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    There is a free gigaplayer called CV Piano-GVI Powered by Tascam. It comes with a free piano that is quite good. This is a free download. I can't remember the link but you should be able to launch a search. It is still out there somewhere because I tipped someone asking for freebie pianos and they found it. They were really impressed with it. Anyway, it comes as a sixteen track player and you can load your other giga instruments. You do have to use ReWire if you want to use it in Sonar. Good Luck!

    I have GVI as well as GS3. I didn't bother installing either for use in Win7/ 8.5 or X1.
    Both were a PITA imo.
    It may work & be suitable for the OP but going the Kontakt route would be my suggestion too. 
    A better solution in the long run.

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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/19 12:22:50 (permalink)
    Thanks Jim... Glyn... JonD...

    So sad... I'm so broke. But I can't lose my Will Lee Bass Sample Library. It's still the best set of bass samples I've found anywhere...

    Yup... I know the giga format is dead, but if you have a library (I have very little other than the bass), it's like keeping an old instrument for it's value...

    I have the Kontakt player on my 32bit system and I can't say I've been very fond of the interface... but if it does the job I'd get used to it. I seem to remember that the player will only load a small subset of library they provide? I might be wrong...

    The gplayer looks very interesting... $150 for my bass guitar... Cheap... Too bad I don't even have that! <sigh>... But I will keep that in mind as it would be fine for the bass alone. I know that Kontakt is more versatile as it loads so many formats and still has a life of it's own, but the price stretches me even further... and this player shouldn't need support other than bugfixes (?) as the format and feature set will never change. So it's safe until VST support changes somehow...

    Right now my workaround is relatively simple but I'm sure I'll get tired of it fast... I simply do my bass work in Sonar32 and freeze it then switch to Sonar64 for other work.... back and forth as necessary...

    I'm overwhelmed with trying to get a new machine setup to replace my 32bit system as I have such a robust setup with an old seriel emagic Unitor8 feeding a JLCooper Synapse and SSL/Soundscape Mixtreme 16 i/o.... I don't want to change that system as it works fine other than being underpowered...

    I have another Unitor8 but it seems it will be useless as it's seriel and all I can find online tells me that a seriel2usb connection or seriel PCIe card won't work on my new MacPro (for this gadget) and neither will my Mixtreme 192 (PCI, not PCIe as the Mac supports)... So I'm busy trying to get around all this with no money.

    I got a Tascam US1800 which is the only gadget I found with support for Vista64 (a temporary HP, liguid-cooled, 64bit system while building the Mac) so I got it and was immediately sadly disappointed at it's lack of proper monitoring ability... No wonder it's so cheap.... But I'll leave it connected to the HP when I migrate to the Mac and hopefully get a more realistic interface to run under win7 Pro there...

    I digress... You can tell I've got a lot on my mind about this situation... ;-)

    I'll checkout the Kontakt issues a bit more and keep an eye on the gplayer as it appears either will suffice for the bass library I'm trying not to lose...

    Many thanks for the suggestions...

    BTW... Have any of you checked out the Linux Player? Any thoughs?

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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/19 13:49:18 (permalink)
    A couple of things - 
    1) I agree about Kontakt. Awesome and well worth purchase. Some things you may not have thought about however. 
    A) You can find it for sale/re-sale sometimes, and NI will transfer licenses. KVR is a good source for deals - Here is one from late August for $200 (full Kontakt 5 unopened) - http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/search.php?search_id=2125818942&start=30
    might be gone, but a good indicator of what you might expect to pay. Should be able to find older versions (although I believe you need at least 4.2.x for compatibility with most current sample sets). 
    B) If you have any Kontakt Player based libraries - you can buy Kontakt for crossgrade pricing - currently $279 at NI but this goes on sale depending on the timing and upgrade cycle. I think I bought Kontakt 4 (as a crossgrade) for $119-ish a few years ago. Very cheap anyway. Be careful though, as the platform you are upgrading from has to be the Kontakt player version - the site lists Garritan Personal Orchestra for example, but unless you have an OLD version (before Garritan went to their own Aria sampler), it won't allow you to register.
    2) I have loaded VSampler on my current DAW, SONAR X1d (expanded, 64 bit), because I had some old samples I wanted to use elsewhere and convert. One thing VSampler was great at was sample conversion. I don't use it, but it seems to work fine on my system under bitbridge. However, this is an updated version (3.5.2) so maybe that's the difference.

    Keni - 
    I checked the VSampler (Maz-Sounds) website - and it seems that they do allow license transfers of the full version - so if you are not already running the updated ("non-OEM") version, I would be happy to ask them to transfer my license to you at no cost to you. PM me your contact information and email address, and I'll put in the request - the caveat is that the product is not supported anymore (or for years), and I am not sure there is anyone on the other end to actually do this - but I am willing to give 'er a shot if you are.

    From their Website - 
    8. Am I allowed to sell my VSampler license to another person, e.g. when I migrate to Mac? There are two different answers, depending on whether your purchased serial number was part of an OEM package or not:
    • OEM version (e.g. "VSampler 3.0 DXi" included with Cakewalk Sonar 3 PE): OEM versions of VSampler are not allowed to be sold outside of the complete OEM package. Please contact the manufacturer of the package (e.g. Cakewalk in case of Sonar 3 PE) for details on selling the package.
    • independent DXi/VSTi/ReWire/Standalone version: Yes, just tell us email address + postal address of seller (you) and buyer and we'll send a new key to the buyer.



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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/20 11:47:54 (permalink)
    Just a bump for Keni - I also PM'd you.
    My last post was so long-winded (I write 24 minute "songs" too). LOL) you may not have seen the last part - 
    In a nutshell, if you are interested I will transfer my VSampler 3.5 license to you at no cost (I am able to run it fine in X1 64 bit). All assuming someone at Maz-sounds/VSampler is still around to do the transfer, of course. 
    PM me your contact information if you are interested.

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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/20 15:20:35 (permalink)
    Sidroe


    There is a free gigaplayer called CV Piano-GVI Powered by Tascam. It comes with a free piano that is quite good. This is a free download. I can't remember the link but you should be able to launch a search. It is still out there somewhere because I tipped someone asking for freebie pianos and they found it. They were really impressed with it. Anyway, it comes as a sixteen track player and you can load your other giga instruments. You do have to use ReWire if you want to use it in Sonar. Good Luck!


    Thanks Sidroe...

    It was difficult, but I found a site that actually allowed me to d/l GVI itself without a CC.... But I got the sometimes noted errors regarding dll's missing from the machine so it wouldn't load...

    Then more investigation came up with a tascam ftp site to d/l the CVPiano... So I've downloaded it but have yet to try it... This would be wonderful if it works but so far all info I've found claims it won't run under Vista/Win7.... I'll be trying later today...

    Thanks again...
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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/20 17:34:47 (permalink)
    You are more than welcome,Keni! I am running GVI in X1 Expanded on Windows 7 with no problems at all. I will check here to see how it worked for you. I may have to burn some brain cells to remember if there was a certain way to get it to work. I don't think there was any problems as far as I can remember now. There are better pianos out there, I know, but this one is not near as bad as some of the pianos in the TTS. I did like the noise of the dampers and the sustain pedal a lot. It will run your other gigas and that is what's important. Hope it works for you.

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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/20 17:55:07 (permalink)
    Hi Sidroe...

    I got the CVPiano installed and it's working fine, but it won't allow me to add other Giga libraries... It only allows for some kind of "presets"... I can't add any other sounds... It must be limited that way as a demo for Tascam (I got this direct from them)

    At least it is a decent piano. I have some others as good or better, but it is an interesting piano....

    Thanks...
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    Re:Any Recommendation for a 64bit Sample Player that supports Giga? 2012/09/20 20:46:19 (permalink)
    I'm so sorry! I went back and checked and I found out I forgot I have Gigastudio 3 from a long time ago. I hardly ever use it anymore. It was GS3 that allowed me to use the library and not the piano. I am so sorry but maybe you will find a use for the piano. I still pull it out from time to time and use it. It's a shame that Garritan bought out the Giga line and I don't see them giving any signs of intent to continue that product. At any rate, I apologize again and hope the free piano is a peace offering. LOL

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