Leadfoot
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/10 11:35:15
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Hey bit, have you had a chance to hear it or use it? I was just wondering what your impressions were if you had. I don't know the hows or whys of what it does. I only know that I like what it does. I think there's a demo for it. I'd like to hear what you think about it.
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cclarry
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/10 11:38:28
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bitflipper
I'll accept that, Larry. Skepticism and the need to take things apart is part of who I am, but I completely understand that not everyone gives a flyin' f(ck about how stuff works. I'm just here to look out for those folks, so they don't get duped by unscrupulous marketers. Don't think of me as that weird guy who questions everything, think of me as the guy who's got your back.
I get that...always have...and skepticism is good...I live by it...the proof is in the pudding as the saying goes...
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/10 12:09:30
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I'm digging the video Bitfliipper posted a link too.
Great info!
I like learning how to use the cheap old EQ I already have way more than I like paying for more EQs that do the same thing as I can do with a cheap old EQ.
I think that's cause I like spending the money I save, by not buying the same EQ over and over again, on real nice input transducers. :-)
BTW what was that analyzer dsp thing in the video?
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cclarry
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/10 12:20:04
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Here's what the manual says about this:
"The EQ4’s band passes all interact with each other as well. In turning the EQ or AIR BAND® gain up, the overall gain will come up a bit as well. This is normal behavior and a necessary byproduct of the design. You may use the LEVEL TRIM to turn down overall gain to compensate this, or use the original hardware solution.".
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/10 12:25:00
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Yeah man!
When you turn the virtual knob up to 10 it pushes the air up 20-22dB and it raises the broad band up 6dB.
That probably sounds pretty sweet!!!
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/10 12:39:23
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/10 15:11:50
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Just goes to show you can get a patent for anything if you know how to write patent applications. BTW, the patent applies only to the hardware version, not to the software emulation. Just as the filters shown in the patent document are pretty vanilla, so in all likelihood are the ones in the software version. At least one clone exists (I've actually tried - and subsequently deleted - it; video here). My curiosity has been piqued. Even though there's no way I'll ever pay 200 bucks for a fixed-band equalizer, I've got to give this one a go. Yes, there is a demo available. You have to create an account with PA and download a license file, but then it's a 14-day demo period with no functional restrictions. I won't move this to the top of my to-do list right away, but sometime in the next week or so I'm gonna have a close look at it.
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JohnKenn
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/10 16:13:53
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ReaEq an option. I use it for everything bass, 6 string. Free if you can't afford the expensive stuff and works rock solid in Sonar. Comes with a bundle of other interesting plugs. Lacks a lot of the automated functions in the likes of Melda eq's, but hard core bread and butter. One of the things I appreciate most is the straightforward GUI presentation. Always know where I'm at. Allows as many bands as needed, starts with 4. Allows choice of 10 different band applications on any band. Has the standard gain, bandwidth and center point on any band. Has a real time graphic of the freq response of the track which updates as the eq is changed so you can see what you are doing with the original signal. Tip for bass is to use default band 1 (set to a low pass), reduce the band width to the point you get a sliding resonance. Works killer on drums as well. http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/ Can't argue the price. Admit my ears are a bit blown out over the decades, and would be really interested if anyone thinks this is a piece of crap in the light of better options, and why. Just here to learn. John
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Del
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/11 10:29:50
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cclarry
It a well designed filter, and is a shelf based on selection with boost and cut,
and is free of artifacts. What it does is extraordinary to say the least. The method - I'm sure that's
patented by Maag.
The freebie does a nice emulation (especially for the price).
Here's a Video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzQ5kmDeJS4
Hey Larry, is that freebie still available and if it is is it available as a vst or only as a UAD plug? I can't seem t find it anywhere. Thanks man!
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Leadfoot
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/11 10:39:26
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You know, I forgot about another EQ that I thought was nice. The PSP McQ has a smooth sound. The top end is especially sweet sounding.
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cclarry
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/11 10:45:58
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Del
cclarry
It a well designed filter, and is a shelf based on selection with boost and cut,
and is free of artifacts. What it does is extraordinary to say the least. The method - I'm sure that's
patented by Maag.
The freebie does a nice emulation (especially for the price).
Here's a Video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzQ5kmDeJS4
Hey Larry, is that freebie still available and if it is is it available as a vst or only as a UAD plug? I can't seem t find it anywhere.
Thanks man!
Del, Here's the info on KVR and the download link... Luftikus is a digital adaptation of an analog EQ with fixed half-octave bands and additional high frequency boost. As an improvement to the hardware it allows deeper cuts and supports a keep-gain mode where overall gain changes are avoided. Features- Hardware-modeled EQ.
- 10, 40, 160 & 640 Hz bands.
- 2.5 kHz shelf.
- optional boost-only shelf at 2.5, 5, 10, 20 or 40 kHz.
- Mastering and analog modes.
- "Keep-Gain" option to avoid drastic overall gain changes when EQing.
- Output trim to adjust gain.
- Improved design to allow deeper cuts.
https://code.google.com/p...plugins/downloads/list
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cclarry
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/11 10:48:41
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Eddie TX
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/11 10:51:00
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I think the thing about the Maag EQ is that the fixed bands are set such that they have a very noticeable effect on the sound of many instruments, for example, cutting 650 makes guitars sound clearer and less boxy. Plus, the bands have a VERY wide Q, so a lot of audio is being boosted or cut when twisting the knobs. The high shelves reach way down below their stated frequencies -- the 2.5 shelf actually starts boosting at around 400 or so. Put these characteristics together, along with perhaps a little modeled saturation, and you get a very "musical" and popular EQ.
Cheers,
Eddie
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Del
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/11 11:03:59
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Del, Here's the info on KVR and the download link... Luftikus is a digital adaptation of an analog EQ with fixed half-octave bands and additional high frequency boost. As an improvement to the hardware it allows deeper cuts and supports a keep-gain mode where overall gain changes are avoided. Features- Hardware-modeled EQ.
- 10, 40, 160 & 640 Hz bands.
- 2.5 kHz shelf.
- optional boost-only shelf at 2.5, 5, 10, 20 or 40 kHz.
- Mastering and analog modes.
- "Keep-Gain" option to avoid drastic overall gain changes when EQing.
- Output trim to adjust gain.
- Improved design to allow deeper cuts.
https://code.google.com/p...plugins/downloads/listThanks Larry!
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cclarry
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Re: Any good EQs for bass?
2014/07/11 11:07:50
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Del
Del,
Here's the info on KVR and the download link...
Luftikus is a digital adaptation of an analog EQ with fixed half-octave bands and additional high frequency boost. As an improvement to the hardware it allows deeper cuts and supports a keep-gain mode where overall gain changes are avoided.
Features
- Hardware-modeled EQ.
- 10, 40, 160 & 640 Hz bands.
- 2.5 kHz shelf.
- optional boost-only shelf at 2.5, 5, 10, 20 or 40 kHz.
- Mastering and analog modes.
- "Keep-Gain" option to avoid drastic overall gain changes when EQing.
- Output trim to adjust gain.
- Improved design to allow deeper cuts.
https://code.google.com/p...plugins/downloads/list
Thanks Larry!
NP...glad to help!
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