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Re: Any news??
2018/02/15 10:28:23
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More likely somebody not up to speed? 
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/15 11:31:50
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I am seeing other sites with the sale of Sonar Platinum shipping 3-3-2018. Another site shipping 3-1-2018. And the price was $400. Are these liquidation sales? It sure looks like it.
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/15 13:08:05
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☄ Helpfulby Keni 2018/02/15 16:45:31
I didn't receive an email when Cakewalk was shutdown and I don't expect an email when Cakewalk releases a Sonar authorization.
So I am bound to checking this forum every day for the past 3 months.
Mildly irritating at the least.
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Songroom
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/15 18:29:15
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I asked the guys at the Guitar Center and they tell me it's genuine. They must be confident regarding activation.
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slartabartfast
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/15 18:43:28
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Well, there is nowhere that I can see any claim that the product includes any updates or any mention of a "membership model" so possibly this is the last gasp attempt to get some cash out of SPlat as a one time buy. No mention of the activation model. I assume this is the empty box plus activation code distribution as in the past. That gives some hope that the Cakewalk servers will be running at least for a while. Still 400.00 is a lot to pay for a dead end product given the active competition. And there is no mention in the web copy that the product may be an orphan.
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Cactus Music
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/15 18:57:54
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☄ Helpfulby Just Another Bloke 2018/02/15 20:20:33
 I love the price! And look, doesn't ship to Canada? An empty box must be contraband. I live on the border so would have it shipped to Danville Wash. I can just envision the Canada Customs agent asking me as I return to Canada.. " What are you bringing back?" == An empty box sir..". What is the value of the empty box?" --== $ 731 with taxes sir" .
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Anderton
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/15 19:30:20
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☄ Helpfulby Mitch_I 2018/02/15 20:51:44
I haven't given up hope that Cakewalk will be sold for several reasons... - The servers are still going, and there has been no deadline given for when they will shut down.
- The forum is still here. Gibson could keep the servers going for activation, but there's no real need to keep the forum going unless the company feels the community has value to a potential buyer.
- Gibson has been selling off assets, mostly real estate for now but assets are assets.
- Companies have contacted me that are interested in at least licensing the IP if not doing an outright purchase, and I've passed those along to Gibson. I doubt that the "leads" I sent will amount to anything, but I have to assume there are also companies reaching out to Gibson directly.
- Guitar Center is always the first to "know things." There's no need to get rid of "old stock" because there isn't stock. The fact that they are promoting SONAR as a current product may mean nothing, but it very well may mean something.
- Despite the Gibson hating that's been going on here, Henry Juszkiewicz uses SONAR and he had great respect for the technology the Bakers were able to implement. I think he would not want to see all that work go for nothing, even if it wasn't going to be under the Gibson umbrella. Just because it became untenable to keep supporting a company that lost money every year doesn't mean he would want to see it disappear.
However I don't see a typical music industry company buying Cakewalk because they'll want something cross-platform. Any companies that are heavily into Windows (Acoustica, Magix) already have DAWs. It would likely be a hardware company like Dell, Lenovo, Alienware, etc. to ship with machines, or Microsoft to round out its software portfolio - it doesn't have its own Logic. Granted it's been over three months since I was fired and knew what was going on internally, and I was gone before Cakewalk was shut down so I don't know what went on afterward. But I was with the company long enough to do informed speculation and unless I'm really offbase, I don't think Gibson wants to see Cakewalk die. The Guitar Center thing is quite intriguing. Hmmm... [Edit] Maybe someone at Guitar Center could comment? [Edit] And yes, I do realize that everything I'm citing is circumstantial evidence, so don't get your hopes up too high...
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Just Another Bloke
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/15 20:23:27
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Anderton
The fact that they are promoting SONAR as a current product may mean nothing, but it very well may mean something.
The Guitar Center thing is quite intriguing. Hmmm...
I can see the Logic in that. 
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Cactus Music
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/15 22:50:43
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Up until this, a few people have posted here asking if they could still purchase Sonar and have been told "No". So this is the first time I have seen it for sale,, I would never pay that much myself but I guess it is a collectors item now. Hopefully those people are paying attention.
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h3kke
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/15 23:20:20
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Anderton
- Guitar Center is always the first to "know things." There's no need to get rid of "old stock" because there isn't stock. The fact that they are promoting SONAR as a current product may mean nothing, but it very well may mean something.
Damn. . . that's deep.
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KSAM
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/15 23:41:19
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I hope this may be good news, I have been a faithful paying customer for many years. When I purchased the "Life Time" updates I expected the lifespan to go on. There may be lawsuit material here for false advertisement and bad dealings, "SONAR" needs to make this right.
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kzmaier
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/16 16:21:32
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I cannot believe another company would not see the value in Cakewalks software and user base. It could be a great plugin distribution path or simply a jump start into the Daw market!!!
Business Plan
1. Buy Cakewalk, Note Gibson takes loss as they already cashed in with life time updates.
2. Initially provide simple bug fixes as needed and providing comfort to the those worried about windows updates.
3. End of life old plugins or software that cannot be supported.
4. Promote new add on's, effects and instruments.
5. Market product like a banshee!!!
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Brandon2000
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/16 16:28:48
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Looks like its been withdrawn from sale already. Thats bad news I guess.
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/16 16:46:25
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kzmaier
I cannot believe another company would not see the value in Cakewalks software and user base. It could be a great plugin distribution path or simply a jump start into the Daw market!!!
Without investing a penny in Cakewalk, the competition could simply post on Cakewalk's own forum to exploit the situation and gain revenue for themselves.... Wait... Anyway, why buy a company to steal its customer base? That is only a last resort if they are actually better than you (in most cases).
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Starise
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/16 17:02:11
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If you were already interested in developing a daw, then this could look really interesting to you or if you had began development and were hitting a few snags in your code or want to add additional features and see Sonar as a way to
save time and money in development. If the price is right you might be interested. Why spend years developing something that has already been developed and is potentially for sale at a good price? It's a win/win really in that case.
So like I said before. There might be reason to hope.
Understandably there are those who will have moved on and those who no longer care. Dangle a daw carrot in front of me though and then tell me it's a new Sonar and I'm immediately interested. I don't care that I already have a handful of daws. I'll always look at another one. But that's me.
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mritenburg
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/16 17:14:03
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If Cakewalk was profitable, it would still be an active company. I think folks need to think about why Cakewalk was not profitable.
In every trade, including music production, you need tools that you can trust. Hobbyists love Sonar because it is chock full of features and seems like a great deal for the price, but professionals know that they cannot rely on Sonar to carry through a production from start to finish. As projects increase in size and complexity, Sonar becomes more and more unstable. Glitchy playback, corrupt project files, weird plugin and automation issues, etc. Sonar couldn't compete because it is not reliable as a professional tool. I know this is a sore point for long-time Cakewalk loyalist, but it's the truth.
Anyone who would acquire Cakewalk would have to fight a battle on two fronts:
1. Make Sonar a reliable tool for professionals
2. Convince professionals to try Sonar again
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michael diemer
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/16 18:04:41
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I think it could make sense for Microsoft to buy it. They could offer Home Studio as base music production software in Windows, and have an upgrade path to the higher grades. Aside from the profit they make with upgrades, they will pull in more upgrades from Windows 7 and XP users, who have stayed away from Windows 10 (like me).
Then again, the number of users of this kind of software is small and already spread out. and they already have a near-monopoly of operating systems anyway. People using Macs aren't going to start using Windows just because it now includes Sonar. Even if they did, Microsoft already has 95% of the OS market. So it really is just a drop in the bucket.
But who knows. Sometimes wishful thinking actually comes true.
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Just Another Bloke
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/16 18:57:06
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Starise
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/16 19:49:11
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I have a couple of questions that aren't answered. If the doors were truly closed to Sonar forever, why would they keep the servers running? Why would the description of the closure look more like a transition than an ending. Why would the parting comments seem like another door may be opening?
I have a difficult time believing that Gibson is keeping the lights burning out of the goodness of their hearts. I think something is going on. I won't venture a guess about what it is at this point.
I don't think lifetime update people have any hope nor do I think any of the old deals will hold over. That included me. However I'm not convinced it's allover.........yet.
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Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/16 19:54:59
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management buy-out or likewise can always happen and take time, patience and negotiation skills for things to fall into place at right price (like ... the longer it takes, the less value it will have, the cheaper you can get it ... it's a poker game ... seen that happen before)
yet, why would you want to buy code who's user base has gone ... gone in terms of $$$ to earn as all put their money into competitor products ...
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/16 21:01:34
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Does anybody really know how many Sonar users have totally switched to different DAW. I bet it a lot less than you imagine. Just basing this on forum users would probably only account for 10% or something very small of total Sonar users. I'm even guessing most Sonar users are still oblivious to the "Cakewalk Announcement"
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Just Another Bloke
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/16 21:25:22
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/16 21:51:22
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Discussions about Sonar no longer belong in the Sonar Forum?
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/23 12:42:52
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Oh yeah! BandLab bought Cakewalk!
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Starise
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Re: Any news??
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2018/02/23 20:17:56
I see this as a win/win situation. BandLab unlike Roland and Gibson already has a recording software company with a considerable following. Maybe Sonar will become a higher tier of ownership or maybe something else entirely. At the very least I can see code attached to it that allows Sonar to integrate better with social media and long distance collaborations. BandLab seem to have a similar thing to Soundcloud in that you can post your music up. That's always a big thing.
We'll see.I believe this is a much better fit than Roland/Cakewalk or Gibson/Cakewalk...long live BandLab/Cakewalk.
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/24 01:46:40
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michael diemer
I think it could make sense for Microsoft to buy it. They could offer Home Studio as base music production software in Windows, and have an upgrade path to the higher grades. Aside from the profit they make with upgrades, they will pull in more upgrades from Windows 7 and XP users, who have stayed away from Windows 10 (like me).
The market for professional DAW platforms is absurdly small compared to anything that Microsoft would be even remotely interested in. Google is much more likely if they think they could port it to an Android tablet.
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Starise
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/26 14:10:33
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Ironic really. The tools used to the make music that millions listen to are seen as insignificant. If we didn't have these tools nothing would be possible as it is today.
You are probably correct. Microsoft probably isn't interested. They really should be though. The payback to Apple for Garageband and Logic is immense.
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losguy
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Re: Any news??
2018/02/26 19:45:31
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Oddly, I found out about this on my phone. I had just turned on some sort of notification the day before (don't remember which - go figure) and BOOM I got a push notification from Sound on Sound. Good thing there was a chair nearby! I still have yet to receive one email from anyone about this - Cakewalk, Bandlab, or (chuckle) Gibson.
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