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2017/08/20 13:47:04 (permalink)

Any pilots here?

The shortest (non-crash) landing ever...looks to be about 6 feet. Sure, he cheated a little by taking advantage of a strong headwind, but significant skill was also involved.
 



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    JohanSebatianGremlin
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/20 14:24:36 (permalink)
    I used to fly a Supercub that was configured somewhat similar to that one. Bigger than stock engine, bigger than stock prop, oversize tires (though not tundra balloons like in the video) to allow extra ground clearance for the oversize prop, and wing extensions with droop tips. 

    It wouldn't get on and off as short as the one in the video, but it could do pretty darn close. With full flaps on takeoff, it could go from standing still to clearing 60ft trees in way under 500ft.

     
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/20 14:32:08 (permalink)
    I never finished my license, but I still remember landing in a strong cross-wind in a Cessna 140 (tiny!) where I had to crab into the runway before it jerked itself back straight.  THAT was nerve wracking!  The landing in the video was like the perfectly timed stall. 
     
    A good landing is one you can walk away from.  A great landing is one where you can reuse the plane!  

     
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/21 00:02:01 (permalink)
    yep.... many years ago I got my private pilot's license. I was actually making good money playing music in a band and had the time to take the 40 hrs minimum required.

    Yeah, that's a pretty strong head wind but that plane is a STOL plane.  Short Take Off & Landing.  Designed to go low and slow and get the bush pilots into and out of some small landing zones.
     
    All pilots get a few hrs of short takeoff and landing practice.  Full flaps, wind it up, hold the brakes then let it go... back pressure on the yoke and point it skyward... level off in ground effect and reduce flaps and pick up speed. The opposite for landing. We used the end of the runway. You had to be airborn  before the intersection of the other runway or stopped... depending on which way you were going or coming.

    It was a ton of fun but very expensive. Cessna 150/152 was $30 to $35 wet depending on the airport... add flight instructor's $15 above that.... 172 was $45 wet.  This was 30 years ago. I can't imagine what it costs today.

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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/21 00:47:49 (permalink)
    13'8" to be exact. This is from an annual STOL (short takeoff and landing) comp in Valdez, AK where bush pilots show off their skills. Using a headwind may be cheating but it's a daily battle fighting the weather here.
     
    Valdez Fly-In
     
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    True story, way back when they flew Jennies (early 1900s), a pilot flying into an airport late one night (no a/c lights then) caught a huge headwind going as fast as he was going. He hung in the air over a river until he ran out of gas. Guess where he landed?!
     
    A good read is Wager with the Wind - The Don Sheldon Story.
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/21 10:31:05 (permalink)
    Hi, my brother is a pilot.
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/21 13:35:00 (permalink)
    I had my PPL back in the 80's. and mainly flew a Cessna 172. As Herb said, it's not a cheap endeavor. I would rent a plane when I had a few extra couple of hundred and go up for an hour or 2. On my last flight, I had rented a 172 at Scottsdale airport and had gone up with a buddy for a 90 minute flight. Upon landing, I was in the private terminal finalizing my logbook, when my original instructor came in. After a little chit chat, he asked for a look at my logbook and said "Dude, you're flying just enough to kill yourself!" I noticed the blood drain from my buddies face, and my instructor said I needed to fly a lot more than I was, or quit. I quit.
     
    A couple of years ago, I inquired about getting re-certified, and then talked with my life insurance agent about it. He said I would get dropped from my current provider, and it would be very expensive to replace. That was that.

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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/21 19:19:37 (permalink)
    Randy P
    A couple of years ago, I inquired about getting re-certified, and then talked with my life insurance agent about it. He said I would get dropped from my current provider, and it would be very expensive to replace. That was that.

    That's kind of eff'd up. I'd be curious how that provide felt about owning a motorcycle or keeping a gun in the house. Or smoking or eating fast food for that matter.



     
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/21 19:38:33 (permalink)
    I have that beat - 
    But full disclosure, I was a helicopter instructor pilot for Uncle Same (now retired ), and it was generally frowned upon if landing required much, if any, forward motion on touchdown, unless it was an emergency landing... 
     
    The pilot in the subject video did an excellent job!!!
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/21 20:02:06 (permalink)
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    Randy P
    A couple of years ago, I inquired about getting re-certified, and then talked with my life insurance agent about it. He said I would get dropped from my current provider, and it would be very expensive to replace. That was that.

    That's kind of eff'd up. I'd be curious how that provide felt about owning a motorcycle or keeping a gun in the house. Or smoking or eating fast food for that matter.






    Flying isn't a working mans hobby. To get a PPL card these days is about $8000, which includes instruction, books, and testing. Rental rates for a Cessna 172 (wet) is around $180 per hour. It's recommended that you fly at least 4-6 hours per month minimum. After refueling, it's pretty easy to spend over $1000 month and not really go anywhere other than flying around your area of residence. For that kind of money, I can come up with a lot of fun things to do other than flying.

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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/21 20:09:30 (permalink)
    rivers88
    I have that beat - 
    But full disclosure, I was a helicopter instructor pilot for Uncle Same (now retired ), and it was generally frowned upon if landing required much, if any, forward motion on touchdown, unless it was an emergency landing... 
     
    The pilot in the subject video did an excellent job!!!


    I planned on becoming a helicopter pilot when I was young.  Got accepted at a local college with a rotary-wing program, but was also debating the RAF.  Failed the damned physical and now I'm not allowed to fly anything.
     
    And that was a great landing.

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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/21 20:29:10 (permalink)
    Randy P
    ..."Dude, you're flying just enough to kill yourself!" I noticed the blood drain from my buddies face, and my instructor said I needed to fly a lot more than I was, or quit. I quit.
     
    A couple of years ago, I inquired about getting re-certified, and then talked with my life insurance agent about it. He said I would get dropped from my current provider, and it would be very expensive to replace. That was that.

     
    50 hours/year is considered good for newer pilots to maintain proficiency. 20 or less would deem you a dangerous pilot as you tend to forget things and are in a state of constant relearning. Of course, it depends on what, where and why you fly. It's also good insurance to fly with an instructor once a year (annual check ride). Planes have to have an annual inspection, so should the pilot.
     
    For insurance you should talk to an agent familiar with flying.
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 01:22:57 (permalink)
    Impressive landing!
     
    I got as far as soloing in a 172 but that was it.
     
    I always entertained the idea of getting a license and flying again, but it just doesn't have the appeal to me. This weekend, however, I went to a local paramotor field and I believe I have found my next hobby!
     
    Goal would be the Intruder on a quad - so I could set up a tandem seat for my wife...
     
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 01:37:36 (permalink)
    smallstonefan
    Impressive landing!
     
    I got as far as soloing in a 172 but that was it.
     
    I always entertained the idea of getting a license and flying again, but it just doesn't have the appeal to me. This weekend, however, I went to a local paramotor field and I believe I have found my next hobby!
     
    Goal would be the Intruder on a quad - so I could set up a tandem seat for my wife...
     
    http://blackhawkparamotor.com/
     
    Some of the youtube videos of paramotoring are just amazing...
     




    I'm assuming you'd still need a pilot's license, ya? 

     
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 03:18:05 (permalink)
    smallstonefan
    Impressive landing!
     
    I got as far as soloing in a 172 but that was it.
     
    I always entertained the idea of getting a license and flying again, but it just doesn't have the appeal to me. This weekend, however, I went to a local paramotor field and I believe I have found my next hobby!
     
    Goal would be the Intruder on a quad - so I could set up a tandem seat for my wife...
     
    http://blackhawkparamotor.com/
     
    Some of the youtube videos of paramotoring are just amazing...
     




    I came this || close a few years ago.  Gotta be a kick in the britches

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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 04:14:03 (permalink)
    A true single seat ultralight requires no license to fly if it meets Part 103 requirements. Any two seat "ultralight" or Light Sport aircraft requires a Sport Pilot Certificate or higher to fly.
     
    According to FAA, a powered ultralight is an aircraft that weighs less than 254 pounds, carries a maximum 5 gal. of gas, doesn't fly faster than 63 mph and seats only one person. You can legally fly it without a pilot's license, without training -- without any qualifications at all. However, you are severely restricted where, when and how far you can fly, for obvious reasons.
     
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    Privileges
    The holder of a valid sport pilot certificate may:
    • Operate as pilot in command of a sport pilot eligible aircraft.
    • Carry a single passenger and share expenses (fuel, oil, airport expenses, and aircraft rental).
    • Fly during the daytime using visual flight rules (VFR). Three statute miles visibility and visual contact with the ground are required.
    • Fly Cross-country anywhere in the U.S.
    • Fly up to 10,000 feet above mean sea level (MSL) or 2,000 feet above ground level (AGL), whichever is higher.
    • Fly in Class E and G airspace (and B, C, and D airspace with appropriate training).
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    • Fly in Class A airspace.
    • Fly in Class B, C, or D airspace until they receive training and a logbook endorsement from an instructor.
    • Fly outside the U.S. without prior permission from the foreign aviation authority.
    • Tow any object.
    • Fly while carrying a passenger or property for compensation or hire.
    • Fly in furtherance of a business.
     
    According to the AOPA's cost calculator, on average the cost of a private license runs $9,900, recreational $7,700 and sport license $4,400. When I flew in the 1990s a PPL was around $3000-5000. Avgas was around $2/gal. Today avgas is around $4-5/gal. So the cost to learn has doubled in 20 years. Cost to own has gone off the charts. Original 1949 Super cubs rolled out for $5000-6000. Highly modified Super cubs, like the one in the video can cost as much as $150,000 and more... used!
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 15:43:37 (permalink)
    You wouldn't get me in one of those little planes even if it was to drop me off on a deserted island full of naked ladies with large badoinkers. 

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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 17:07:39 (permalink)
    I flew into Long Beach California's airport once in a tiny Cesna owned by my landlord at the time.  Since it also operates a large Class A airport, while we were putting around coming in for a landing, these huge jets were passing us by. That was a bit unnerving!  It felt like we were barely moving, almost like we could get out and push!  LOL.

     
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 17:34:08 (permalink)
    sharke
    You wouldn't get me in one of those little planes even if it was to drop me off on a deserted island full of naked ladies with large badoinkers. 


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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 18:14:50 (permalink)
    No I am not.But my friend is a pilot.
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 18:35:18 (permalink)
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    sharke
    You wouldn't get me in one of those little planes even if it was to drop me off on a deserted island full of naked ladies with large badoinkers. 


    Now I have a new plan for retirement.



     
    Stay away from my island!

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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 21:00:04 (permalink)
    I'm still figuring out how an island full of naked ladies could be "deserted".
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 21:03:34 (permalink)
    soens
    I'm still figuring out how an island full of naked ladies could be "deserted".




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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 21:10:55 (permalink)
    soens
    I'm still figuring out how an island full of naked ladies could be "deserted".




    Maybe he meant "desserted" instead. 
     
    (Anyone got the whipped cream???)

     
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/22 21:21:38 (permalink)
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    I went to a local paramotor field and I believe I have found my next hobby!
    http://blackhawkparamotor.com/



    If I'd only known back in the 70s I could just put a big prop and a parachute on my go cart...
     
     
     
     
    I probably wouldn't be here today!
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/28 03:36:22 (permalink)
    i'm not rock n roll enough to have a flying license
     
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/28 11:08:12 (permalink)
    Good choice. Not safe to fly in fog..... might run into a pig.
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/28 20:33:06 (permalink)
    I see what you did there! 

     
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/29 05:31:46 (permalink)
    whew! for a minute there i was surrounded.
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    Re: Any pilots here? 2017/08/29 08:30:19 (permalink)
    New record
     

    post edited by soens - 2017/08/29 09:31:40
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