vladasyn
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Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
Hey there! I had catastrophe happened when I updated my non-music computer from Windows 8.0 to 8.1- I lost all USB ports and had to reinstall OS and start over. This is why I am being careful with my music computer and would like to make sure everything is compatible. I have been contacting tech support of all involved manufacturers. So far Presonus and Motu reported no issues. Waiting on Native instruments, IK Multimedia, Novation, Roland, Korg and Steinberg/Yamaha. I want to update to 8.1 sooner than later, because it is better to be updated and deal with issues, than have no issues now, continue building the studio and then get issues later. The other reason is that Microsoft gives us only 2 years for the free update to Win 8.1. Also once in a while (actually- only once so far) I was not able log in to my 8.0 computer- I had a line across the screen, demanding to update, and the only way to proceed was to agree to it. It took me to the App Store, and then I was able to cancel update. All this is frustrating, so I want to update and get over with it. Please, share your update stories and issues you encountered, especially with software synth. I have almost all popular soft synths and worry that everything will fall apart. Thank you.
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vladasyn
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/04 20:42:26
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I visited Roland web site, and this is what I see: "No: No plan for compatible version- We are sorry but we have no plan to make it compatible with Windows(R) 8.1 64-bit Edition" What does this supposed to mean? I paid almost $3500 for V-Synth GT and $2500 for the Fantom G, and they saying- they have no intention to make it work? Every manufacturer releasing drivers for their products. What are we expected to do- stop using it? Microsoft forcing this update. I use V-Synth GT MIDI the most (can live without audio). How much trouble would it cause if I update to Win. 8.1? What does it do? Does it crash the system, or MIDI stops working? Did anybody tested it- any chance it would work? http://www.roland.com/sup...&id=63060593#synthThank you.
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/04 20:53:30
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I can tell you that RME has had a wave of new drivers and updates to DigiCheck when their release cycle is usually slower. See this thread... http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=17980 Initially Mathias seemed to think there was some ASIO change in 8.1. I don't know if there was or wasn't, but seems like something is catching some people off guard. Initially, there was DigiCheck 5.6, then 5.61 to fix the issue. Now we're on 5.62. I still haven't upgraded my main DAW. I'm testing software on my daughter's laptop until I feel safe.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/04 22:22:23
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I'm on 8.1 x64 Sonar X3c Toontrack Sup Drummer 2, EZKeys, EzMix 2 all software working Native Instruments Komplete 9 Ultimate all working IKMultimedia Amplitube 3, Arc 2, T-Racks 3 all working. 32 bit soft synths not yet tested. iZotope, Ozone 5 Advanced, Nectar 2, Alloy 2, RX2 Advanced, Stutter edit all working group fine. All other Isotope products still to test. Melda Productions. The complete VST 3 package is working. They're free. All Sony's DX plugins work.
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vladasyn
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/04 22:46:36
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Thank you for the info. I was wondering about Komplete 9- I have Ultimate as well. I have issue with Maschine controller- it won't let Win 8.0 boot when connected. Doubt- 8.1 would fix it. Thanks for free plugins. Will look in to them.
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/04 22:54:29
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Just upgraded from Win 8.0 to 8.1 - I tell you the upgrade process was a total **** (because I run multiple OS's and Microsoft haven't really accommodated for it well, buggy!)...No DAW software on yet... fingers crossed for later....
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mudgel
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 00:22:16
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I'm only part way through a fresh Windows 8.1 installation and even though I've got Maschine (original) I'm sticking with software first with intensive testing before ip get to hardware.
Mike V. (MUDGEL) STUDIO: Win 10 Pro x64, SPlat & CbB x64, PC: ASUS Z370-A, INTEL i7 8700k, 32GIG DDR4 2400, OC 4.7Ghz. Storage: 7 TB SATA III, 750GiG SSD & Samsung 500 Gig 960 EVO NVMe M.2. Monitors: Adam A7X, JBL 10” Sub. Audio I/O & DSP Server: DIGIGRID IOS & IOX. Screen: Raven MTi + 43" HD 4K TV Monitor. Keyboard Controller: Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol S88.
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 01:31:25
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I had problems with the preview and had to revert back, I now have the full release installed and it is running very well. There are some changes MS made I am not that pleased with but overall it seems to be a little better in is solidity. 8 was very solid 8.1 seems even better.
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gswitz
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 06:23:25
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John, could you name one or two of the changes you are NOT pleased with? I'm still hovering at the edge of the diving board, uncertain.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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John
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 07:10:27
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Gswitz, they are not big or show stoppers but subtle. Library folders are now hidden by default and don't work with public data. If you had them you will not see them unless you tell explorer to show them. Its more cloud oriented, I'm not. I don't care that if you add an app it is not appended to the start screen but is held in the broad overview of all programs and apps. There are a couple of other things that I can't decide whether I like them or not. So I wont mention them.
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 08:28:13
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after a week of trying, 2 ms techs on my pc, no upgrade from 8 to 8.1. it fails, so until the boys in redmond get it together, i'm on 8.
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 08:38:41
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I have a very stable Windows 8 x64 install, and have ZERO plans to upgrade to 8.1 anytime soon. I would much rather have a stable platform and crank out successful music projects than upgrade just for the sake of upgrading, particularly since there are SO many reported driver and application issues posted from folks who had issues going to 8.1 on their systems. Over time, when 8.1 is better adopted by the folks who make my software and hardware, I will consider upgrading. Until then, nope. I am cheerfully going to get another cup of coffee and enjoy not worrying about crashing anything this morning, as I cruise through the day's music projects. Bob Bone
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 08:46:35
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Bob that is not unwise. I knew it would work on my system and all I really needed were Roland to supply drivers for my hardware and they did. So I upgraded and I am happy with it so far. Don't take what I posted in answer to Gswitz as it is just more the change of things that is bothersome not it as such. If for example 8.1 had been the first release I wouldn't have any gripe at all.
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 08:49:52
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 09:46:22
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I'm running 8.1 64 bit and X3c with no issues. Once I unchecked the 64 bit engine box I've had no noise issues. The only third party plugs I use are a few Waves plugs and Ozone 5. Another thing I've noticed, I can lower my record/playback buffers a lot lower than I could before. Before I never went below 512 or I had problems. I recorded a part with them set to 64 the other night with no hiccups or stutters. Don't know if itsX3 or Windows 8.1 or the combination but I like it.
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vladasyn
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 11:38:00
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I am watching how most of software behaves on 8.1. On my non-music computer all games (at least 5) installed fine (did not play them yet), but I can not use any Toolbars for Internet Explorer. Yahoo toolbar is not compatible. One problem I have is "Sleep". After update, it has hard time to sleep, and when it does sleep, the fans still running. I used to use Win XP computer for years when everybody else was using Vista and Win 7. I do not upgrade just to upgrade. Right now Win 8 is very stable on my music computer, but I add different plug in products every month. And I can not stop. (lol). I dont like to install them "for now", worrying that it may or may not fail later when I update. The less stuff I have, the better it is for the update. I want to be past this milestone, count my losses and move forward. I dont want it hang over my head. Win 8.1 is not optional update. It is consequential update. Very soon they will require it in order to be able to install any security updates and service packs. I don't like to have to go trough the App Store just to start my computer because Microsoft blocks my computer, requiring update. It is better earlier than later. This way I would know what is not working and who to contact. Steinberg tech support just told me that they not supporting 8.1 yet and will let us know when they do. I don't think it means- plugins would not work. I already have them installed, so if 8.1 installer runs- it would have to face it.
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vladasyn
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 12:21:25
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Here is another reply from Roland about V0Synth GT and Fantom G "We have contacted Roland Japan and are trying to clarify the plans for Window 8.1 drivers for both the V-Synth GT and the Fantom. When we get information, we will post it here: http://www.rolandus.com/support/support_news/. You can subscribe to that page as a news feed to be notified when we post something there. In the meantime, you can use an external MIDI interface to connect either of those keyboards to a computer running Windows 8.1. The drivers apply to the built-in USB interface capabilities."
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 12:42:18
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I updated to 8.1 from 8 without any issue. Not even a clean install. I've experienced no problems. I've heard of some UAD2 problems. I haven't updated my UAD2 since version 6. something and the it's working fine.
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gswitz
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/05 19:49:04
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Because of this thread, I decided I didn't have a good reason not to take the plunge. I'm on 8.1 and all is well.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Any success or trouble with Win 8.1 update?
2013/11/06 02:11:47
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8.1 running well here. Roland Studio-Capture is running solid with latest drivers. Anyone wanna buy a Echo Layla24?
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