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2014/12/13 12:39:02 (permalink)

Any use the Aeon Collection?

Hi all - do any of you use the Aeon Collection? What are your thoughts?  I missed the black friday deal - do they have a Christmas one?
 
I find it hard to believe that it's worth the whole $400...   
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/13 19:08:41 (permalink)
I'd love to have it. Lots of excellent stuff in there. But for 4 bills, nah. You'd get more mileage out of Omnisphere for that kind of money.


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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/13 19:20:54 (permalink)
Wow. That thing sounds great! I'm kind of happy I didn't know it was on sale during BF. 
 
http://www.heavyocity.com/product/aeon-collection/
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/13 19:59:00 (permalink)
Komplete 9 or 10 could be also worth getting for not much more.
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/13 23:47:18 (permalink)
Komplete 10 is almost double the price...  
 
Omnisphere, huh?  I'm going to have to check that out...  Although I'm really thinking about pulling the trigger on Aeon.  During black friday it was only $250.  That seems like a reasonable price to me,  but I don't know if I can wait a whole other year.  Anyone know if they do an Xmas or Spring thing?
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/14 01:30:12 (permalink)
I've got several of heavyocity's libraries.  Great stuff.  $400 is too much for just about anything software related, but for $200 it would be a good deal.  I'm still twisting stuff out of the evolve collection and haven't scratched dm 307.  1st class all the way.
 
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/14 02:17:11 (permalink)
I have the collection.  I have almost everything Heavyocity.
 
Aeon is like the Evolve packs but on steroids.
 
great sounds very useful and mixing and matching from the rhythmic and melodic packs expands for a lot more possibilities.  The twist, punish effect is like that of Damage.  Aeon is like Evolve, Damage and mutations thrown in together with all new scripting and samples.  there is no reused content from other packs - it's all new stuff.  every package by heavyoicy can be used together and work seamless.  I like it and it's one of my favorite Kontakt libraries.
 
Heavyocity generally only does a BF special or a spring sale.  sales are rare or if they offer a new pack then those packs are on intro sale.
 
I bought the Aeon Collection in a 30% off sale.  so $250 or something like that.  totally worth it.  for $399 it's a bit steep BUT it really is a great pack.
 
for $399 if you don't have Omnisphere synth and were leaning one or the other I would say Omnisphere.  Omnisphere is probably my go to synth of all the ones I have, it just sounds amazing and it's really clean and easy to use.
 
I guess it boils down to how much money do you have, what type of music do you do, what do you need to add to your toolbox.
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/14 11:11:09 (permalink)
Thanks for the input.  I wish I had caught that Black Friday sale.  $250 seems reasonable to me.  I'll look into Omnisphere some more.  I don't suppose they have deals at any point?
 
Honestly, I play a lot of roots and acoustic music.  I bought Sonar to produce an all acoustic album, but after that project finished I've started delving into midi and learning about what it can do.  The only tools I have at this point came with Sonar Producer and I also bought some EastWest stuff during their black friday 2:1 thing.  To be honest, I wasn't as impressed with East West as I thought I would be and didn't want to be underwhelmed again.
 
I bought the Dark Side Library and Hollywood Strings/Woodwinds/Brass Silver.  The Dark Side was extremely disappointing.  Most of the sounds are so layered with effects and if I want to dial them back - I can't...  Also some of the best sounds are atonal so it basically renders them useless.  the hollywood stuff is fine, but it doesn't have the wow factor I thought it would.  Plus the silver is missing so many articulations and I'm not going to shell out thousands for the diamond version.
 
Enough of that rant.
 
Considering at this point it's just to satisfy a curiousity and kind of a hobby, I'll probably see if I can wait until a spring sale pops up.
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/15 05:32:56 (permalink)
i picked up the aeon collection on the bf sale. it's pretty dangerous I have to say, very easy for it to dominate your work. 
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/15 05:36:39 (permalink)
edit: dble post 
 
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/15 06:46:43 (permalink)
I too have all HoC stuff... exquisite.  They seem to be having sales more frequently... betcha get a holiday sale... I'll b sure to post it in deals...

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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/15 07:56:23 (permalink)
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I too have all HoC stuff... exquisite.  They seem to be having sales more frequently... betcha get a holiday sale... I'll b sure to post it in deals...



that is promising, I was reckoning Id wait till an aforementioned spring sale to get the dm 307-
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/15 07:57:49 (permalink)
I've got my eye on it!  I signed up to the newsletter - definitely buy it at the next sale, but I'm going to try really hard to hold until then!
 
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I guess it boils down to how much money do you have, what type of music do you do, what do you need to add to your toolbox.




What do you think the major differences between the two are?  I'm probably going to be making Ambient Cinematic style music...  Not sure how that plays in as I'm guessing both can be useful in that regard.   This is probably opening up a Fender vs. Gibson thing... but I'm really interested to hear what people have to say about the vibe and how they use it.  Omnisphere wasn't on my radar, but now I'm stuck.
 
Also, does anyone know if Spectrasonic runs deals like Heavyocity?  If not, might go with Omnisphere now and wait on Aeon...  
 
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/15 08:11:11 (permalink)
And this might be a really dumb question - but it seems like Omnisphere does a lot of the same stuff that Rapture does.  Am I wrong in thinking that it would be just an upgrade of that and not a totally new experience?
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/15 10:33:58 (permalink)
Omnisphere is its own category. Many other products overlap its turf (e.g. Aeon), but nobody else comes close to Omnisphere's breadth.
 
And it's not just a sample player, it's also a full-featured synthesizer. It's just that the synth can use one or two of literally thousands of "sound sources" (read: samples) instead of a generic oscillator. You will not live long enough to explore all of its possibilities.
 
The downside is that, unlike many Kontakt libraries, Omnisphere's samples are in a proprietary format so you cannot add your own files.
 
Oh, and Spectrasonics NEVER does sales.


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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/15 15:10:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mikebeam 2014/12/17 15:20:49
Spectrasonics never runs sales as Bitflipper stated.  I got my Spectrasonics products through Guitar Center with incredible sales coupons to save on the retail pricing.  GC often has 15% off coupons but every once in a while they run a $75 off or $100 off coupon and those apply.  Or you can buy from Sweetwater and do the 3 payment plan to help with the payments.
 
Spectrasonics does do license transfers so sometimes you can find a used copy being sold on KVR forum.  I got my Spec Stylus RMS Expanded that was and saved a HUGE amount off retail price even with a $50 license transfer fee.
 
I would say it's hard to compare Aeon and Omnisphere in a side by side comparision, they can complement each other but one is a synth and one is a sample pack with layered samples and effects you can appy.  kinda different beasts.
 
I often think of Omnisphere as buying a Roland Fantom or a Yamaha Motif hardware synth but cheaper as it's software.  Quality sounds, easy to use and just inspiring.  for cinematic composition Omni plays very well as there area TON of pads and atmospheric sounds.  I have lost so many hours just loading up a sound or going through patches just freaking inspired by quality and the fun only to look at the clock and realize hours had past.  Very few of my VST synths do that, most are just tools and they work or I fight with them and get the sound I want.
 
Aeon is samples with a scripted Kontakt interface and you can apply different scripted effects or the Damage like Punish effects.  the Arp built into the package is easy to use and fun to play with.  There is definatly a character to the sounds though, sometimes you can get a sameness from playin with Aeon.  The character is quality and the production of the interface and documentation is really good.  As with most scripted Kontakt libraries you cannot load in your own sounds your stuck with what is available in the Aeon package but there is so much there and you can multi player the sounds, it's quite robust.  If you listen to the sound demo's of Aeon and you like what you hear - your gunna get that with a lot more under the hood and tweakability - but that is what your getting.
 
I would defiantly check out the Heavyocity AEON collection review by Sounds And Gear on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WWXdEeSwi8
it's 18 minutes and really covers a lot of the interface and different sounds, you get a feel for what's there in the AEON collection.
 
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/16 14:45:46 (permalink)
Thanks.  I watched that review.  Pretty awesome stuff, but Omnisphere has me hooked.  I think I'm going with that and I imagine it will keep me busy until next Black Friday...  (Or longer).  Seems to be more what I'm looking for.
 
I watched a few of the tutorials on the website and I was sold.
 
Thanks for all the input.
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/17 05:46:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mikebeam 2014/12/17 15:20:45
I have both Omnisphere and the AEON Collection.    They are entirely different.   But if you are aiming at ambient cinematic style, you cannot go wrong with Omnisphere.   I've had it years, and always discovering new things.   Its incredibly easy to use, yet extraodinarily deep if you want to go that far.   They never have sales, but there is nothing to touch it for value for money.  Without doubt the best bit of software I ever bought.     
 
AEON is much more limited, with only a relatively small number of sounds, and not so easy to edit, nothing like Omnisphere at all.    It does have its own unique sound though, and compliments Omnisphere well.  If you are thinking one over the other though, no contest, you will never regret buying Omnisphere.
 
 

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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/17 07:48:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mikebeam 2014/12/17 15:20:41
Maybe I'm the only one who's ever experienced this, but I actually DID regret buying Omnisphere - at first.
 
That's because I'd really been looking for more bread 'n butter sounds and lead voices, not pads and weird effects. For my first couple weeks with Omnisphere I really thought I'd made a terrible mistake. 
 
But determined not to waste that money, I'd try to find a way to squeeze Omnisphere into every project. Over time, I bookmarked favorite patches and found more and more applications for it.
 
Then I learned to program the synth, first to modify factory patches and later to build my own. This turned out to be the crucial factor - many Omnisphere patches are so thick that they need to be dialed back to find their place in the mix.
 
Fast-forward 3 years, and today Omnisphere is a vital component in my creative process that I'd truly hate to be without.


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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/17 09:25:42 (permalink)
That's all great input.  I've been creating sounds in Rapture and have finally figured out how to get close to what I am envisioning in there.  It's not very easy to use.  I know that Omnisphere has the sampling side of things, but is the synth side basically similar to rapture?  
 
Also, I've found a bunch of places where you can buy additional patches - like this:
 
http://www.audiority.com/
 
Any of you have any experience with these?  It's kind of cool that these seem reasonably priced - you can buy a set of patches for Under $15.
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/17 18:52:23 (permalink)
Yes, there are third-party patch libraries for Omnisphere. I even bought one once, but durned if I can even find it now. It vanished into Omnisphere's ocean of patches like a raindrop.
 


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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/17 21:23:21 (permalink)
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Yes, there are third-party patch libraries for Omnisphere. I even bought one once, but durned if I can even find it now. It vanished into Omnisphere's ocean of patches like a raindrop.

 
You might be able to find those 3rd party patches via the 2nd Patch Browse filter set to Author - filter 1  being All.
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/18 02:12:18 (permalink)
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Yes, there are third-party patch libraries for Omnisphere. I even bought one once, but durned if I can even find it now. It vanished into Omnisphere's ocean of patches like a raindrop.
 

 
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/18 03:14:03 (permalink)
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That's all great input.  I've been creating sounds in Rapture and have finally figured out how to get close to what I am envisioning in there.  It's not very easy to use.  I know that Omnisphere has the sampling side of things, but is the synth side basically similar to rapture?  
 
Also, I've found a bunch of places where you can buy additional patches - like this:
 
http://www.audiority.com/
 
Any of you have any experience with these?  It's kind of cool that these seem reasonably priced - you can buy a set of patches for Under $15.


I don't know how Rapture works, but the editing capabilities of Omnisphere are immense, both for its samples and its synth engine.

And as for third party libraries for Omnisphere, you won't need to think about that for a VERY long time, since there are thousands of included patches, its absolutely HUGE.

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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/18 10:51:04 (permalink)
3rd Party Omnisphere patches try The Unfinished patch banks.  I have heard really great things about them, I don't own them they are on my wish list/to buy list.
 
I currently do not have any 3rd party Omni banks or patches - all factory.  there are close to 6,000 patches/combi patches once installed and upgraded.
 
just a ton of stuff in the factory banks.  BUT the factory bank has not been updated in a couple of years - your not likely to find Dubstep patches or arps or EDM patches - that's where 3rd paty banks could be useful.
 
just depends on what your needing.  just go through the factory stuff for a whle, there is so much there you probably wont be needed a whole lot to add to it.
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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2014/12/19 09:41:32 (permalink)
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BTW, I think the Omnisphere patches I bought were in fact from Matt Bowdler (The Unfinished). He's got several of them, and some good ones for Zebra, too. 


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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2016/06/05 16:28:08 (permalink)

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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2016/06/05 22:30:12 (permalink)
Out of topic , but don t you guyz find omni 2 slow as hell to load patches ?

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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2016/06/05 22:37:41 (permalink)
But they can be sooooo good. Particularly those PlugInGuru patches like MegaMagicPads.

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Re: Any use the Aeon Collection? 2016/06/06 06:54:42 (permalink)
Yep i own omniverse series ... Not the pads yet

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