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2006/07/03 12:13:11 (permalink)

Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ?

I have an old yamaha C1 computer that will not boot. I used to run Voyetra Sequencer Plus software, which saved songs in a proprietory format with a .sng extension. I have some songs on floppy with this format that I would like to reclaim. The Voyetra program would also save to midi file format which I did not do. Voyetra/Turtle Beach was unwilling to help. I was wondering if there is anyone out there that might have an old working machine with this software that would be willing to convert these files. (only a few songs) My email is: lizardfolk@cox.net
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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/03 12:54:08 (permalink)
    I was wondering if there is anyone out there that might have an old working machine with this software that would be willing to convert these files.


    Hi, I have Voyetra installed in my machine. But the machine is not old. I don't understand why an old machine is required for this purpose. Voyetra can not save in .sng format but it can read .sng and can save in .mid format.

    But the problem is I am from the other side of the globe - Kolkata, India.
    How can I help you ? Considering the download time, I am interested to know how big are the files ?

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/03 12:55:06 (permalink)
    You can download Sequencer Plus for free from http://www.voyetra.com/site/kb_ftp/340ftp.asp
    It's a DOS program; (it might work if you 'boot to command prompt' when starting a Windows XP box, if that's what you have. You'll also need to download the appropriate driver pack for whatever MIDI interface card you can scrounge (same page, also free). Luckily, it seems Voyetra supported various Creative cards -- it's hard to find an MPU-401 these days!

    Frankly, the safest way to get your songs back is
    - find an older machine in somebody's basement
    - Put DOS on it
    - find an old soundblaster card
    - install the soundblaster and drivers (free from Voyetra Turtle/Beach)
    - install seqplus gold ...

    That way, you don't risk your current PC by trying to install / run antique software/hardware in it.

    Unfortunately, I don't have a machine set up to run SeqPlus (I haven't used it in at least 15 years ....)

    Good luck,

    -Jim
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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/03 14:44:42 (permalink)
    Sen , Jim, Thanks for the replys. The files all fit on one floppy disk. I guess an old machine is not required, I just didn't think anyone would have a program that would read sng. files installed on a modern machine. Sen, If you would allow, I could send the songs as email attachments, which you could load into your voyetra software and resave as a midi file and then return as attachments in reply. the largest song is 184 Kb, six songs totaling less than 500 kb for all. Jim , you went to a lot more trouble to help than Voyetra tech support was willing to do. Would I need to install midi interface drivers just to load and convert to midi file format ? I have an older Win 98 machine collecting dust that I might attempt to utilize for this purpose if Sen is unwilling or unable to help. The process seems frought with peril for technically obtuse guy like me. Again, thanks so much for responding.
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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/03 19:21:13 (permalink)
    Oh Man! How I miss Voyetra SPG... In my mind, it's still the best midi editor... Cutting and pasting bars was a snap and quantizing actually worked like a charm... I've always wanted to put together a legacy box to keep around just for Voyetra SPG... Best wishes, Joe
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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/03 19:56:20 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Platano

    Oh Man! How I miss Voyetra SPG... In my mind, it's still the best midi editor... Cutting and pasting bars was a snap and quantizing actually worked like a charm... I've always wanted to put together a legacy box to keep around just for Voyetra SPG... Best wishes, Joe


    I feel the same way about 64-Track PC

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/03 20:30:15 (permalink)
    Hi bbach, You may attach the .sng files and send a mail to me. I shall be glad to give it a try. My email id is kishorescenter-studio@yahoo.co.in

    if Sen is unwilling or unable to help,,,,,,,,,,,,


    he he he

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/03 22:50:25 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: bbach
    ...Jim , you went to a lot more trouble to help than Voyetra tech support was willing to do. Would I need to install midi interface drivers just to load and convert to midi file format ? I have an older Win 98 machine collecting dust that I might attempt to utilize for this purpose if Sen is unwilling or unable to help. The process seems frought with peril for technically obtuse guy like me. Again, thanks so much for responding.

    bbach -- If Sen can help you out (thanks, Sen!), it'll be the easiest way to get your songs exported to MIDI.

    Otherwise -- It's been a long time but I think you can run SPG without a MIDI interface installed (in demo mode), and probably load/save files. (I actually co-wrote SP, along with Bruce Frazier and Hugh Steele, but left Voyetra when it was still Octave-Plateau, at the end of 1985. SP still owns a piece of my heart .... ). A Win98 machine would be ideal, since it actually runs DOS under the covers -- just boot to command line and run SPG from the DOS prompt.

    If it turns out you do need a MIDI interface, then it seems you can get by with a SoundBlaster 16 or a later Soundblaster (AWE32) -- SB-compatible cards used to sell for $10 or so, when I last checked Actually .... any on-board soundchip probably looks enough like a SoundBlaster to fool the Voyetra drivers.

    From the FTP site, it looks like Voyetra did make drivers for a ton of Creative cards, so you can probably find a way to make it work.

    Good luck,

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/03 22:57:04 (permalink)
    Hi Joe-
    Oh Man! How I miss Voyetra SPG

    Me too, for the ease of MIDI editing, and IIRC you could set loop points for individual tracks and still record through the entire sequence on another track. I haven't really seen that since.

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/03 23:24:00 (permalink)
    Gotta agree Sequencer Plus was a heckuva program for it's day. And what I learned from it still guides me today. But do you realize how long ago that was (especially in techno terms) I mean, Mike Dell was just thinking about marketing custom built computers and there was this other fellow named Gates...

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/03 23:35:52 (permalink)
    But do you realize how long ago that was

    Yes, Steve -- yes, I do. Thanks so much for reminding me!

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/04 00:07:05 (permalink)
    I think .SNG format was also used by Texture when saving linked pattern files. Same ERA differnt day ?
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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/04 00:24:46 (permalink)
    Hi Bob-
    I think .SNG format was also used by Texture when saving linked pattern files. Same ERA differnt day ?

    I still have my original Texture floppy disks -- that was fun, too!

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/04 00:35:32 (permalink)
    You guys need to stop this right now. Even though I sequenced on a 512KB Mac back then, these flashbacks are still making me dizzy!

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/04 00:37:30 (permalink)
    P.S. Anybody for a 320KB floppy?

    (Actually, that's a floppy. OW!)

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/04 00:44:05 (permalink)
    HI Carlos-
    P.S. Anybody for a 320KB floppy?

    Don't get me started on 5-1/4" floppies! You wouldn't like me if I got started on 5-1/4" floppies!

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2006/07/04 00:55:29 (permalink)
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    Don't get me started on 5-1/4" floppies! You wouldn't like me if I got started on 5-1/4" floppies!

    Oh, you mean those flyswatters with missing handles? OK, then how about punch cards? Remember hanging chads? Not the ones from 2000... we're talking the IBM kind.

    (P.S. Sorry lizardfolk, this is just too much fun. I really do want to know when you figure out how to un-archive your petrified MIDI files. It's kind of cool, both geeky and cool.)

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2007/01/16 17:27:22 (permalink)
    Hey - is that the same "Jim Wright" who was one of the original authors of Seq+?

    (I know I am the same "Bruce Frazer" who helped with that)
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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2007/01/16 19:00:53 (permalink)
    Don't get me started on 5-1/4" floppies! You wouldn't like me if I got started on 5-1/4" floppies! -Susan


    How about the 8 inch ones and the 12 inch removable HDs that stored 5 Mbs Shame on you for bringing it all back! Oh the humanity

    Oh I just remembered about core memory. I moved a Remington Rand core memory computer to my basement many years ago. That thing weigh a ton. It had paper tape! It ran a form of COBOL

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2007/01/16 23:03:30 (permalink)
    FWIW the current Voyetra sequencer "Record Producer"s help file says
    SNG
    This is the song file format used by Voyetra's Sequencer Plus series. Record Producer can read .SNG files, but it cannot save in this format.

    Though I don't know if its true for Record Producer (a quick install reveals SNG NOT in the open or import file dialogs but a drag&drop of a midi file renamed as .SNG works), it is true for its previous incarnation Digital Orchestrator Pro.

    Rec Prod can run on Win98 & Win XP, DOP only works up to Win98.

    HTH

    edit to add : if Sen's offer doesn't work out let me know & we'll try DOP
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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2007/01/16 23:36:09 (permalink)
    Hi Bruce!

    Long time!! Yup, I'm your former evil cohort! Great to run across you!

    I tried to PM you, but you don't have PM enabled in your profile.
    So - please PM me, and let's catch up. (You have to use your Inbox to send me a PM, which is a bit wacky.)

    All the best,

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    RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2007/01/16 23:43:17 (permalink)
    Oh, how absence makes the heart grow fonder . Let's wax nostalgic.... no let's not.

    Believe me I wouldn't trade my Sonar Producer for any of the old crappy programs I've used in the past. I had Personal Composer and an early Roland product (I forget the name), Power Tracks Pro (which I still use) and then I switched to Cakewalk version 1.2. None of those compare in power and ease of use to any Cakewalk product.

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    Re: RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2016/02/03 17:08:30 (permalink)
    bbach: do u still have the yamaha c1 computer? are u interested in selling it?
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    Re: RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2016/02/03 18:47:32 (permalink)
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    bbach: do u still have the yamaha c1 computer? are u interested in selling it?


     You did notice that post was made in 2006, right? 
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    Re: RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2016/02/03 20:57:22 (permalink)
    I had (still do) Voyetra DOP.  It will not run on any OS past W2k. 

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    Re: RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2016/02/03 21:06:00 (permalink)
    I had Sequencer Plus Gold. (or Gold Plus). It loaded the GEM OS on top of DOS and then ran in that.
    Looked like an early MAC type OS. Ran on an 16Mhz? 8088 PC (IBM-XT)I built. 20MB HDD, 1MB RAM. Had to be '90-92. I think I may still have the floppys.
     
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    Re: RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2016/02/03 21:45:10 (permalink)
    Susan G
    HI Carlos-
    P.S. Anybody for a 320KB floppy?

    Don't get me started on 5-1/4" floppies! You wouldn't like me if I got started on 5-1/4" floppies!

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    Wish I kept some of those "Floppy", I could have shown to  my daughter who has seen only pictures of...
     
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    Re: RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2016/02/03 22:11:32 (permalink)
    I found some 8" floppys a few years ago. THey looked like something you would find at a novelty store. I built an S-100 Z-80 system that ran CPM in the late 80's. The floppys were from that. I think they stored 100 KB per side. I wish I had a photo of the actual drives. I have seen mini-desktops that were smaller.

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    Re: RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2016/02/03 22:54:03 (permalink)
    I saw this post and thought to myself," oh there's somebody else that wants to convert old SP Gold files. " Then I opened the post and realized that I was the original poster. Wow, ten years ago. I must have decided that the juice wasn't worth the squeeze . I'm not sure if I chucked the Yamaha computer or not. I'll have to look up in the attic. Trying to get all this stuff working still dominates my thoughts and energy. Sometimes I think I should curse the day that I wandered into that music store and saw that Akai S900 30 years ago. I thought " If I had one of those, I could rule the world."
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    Re: RE: Anybody have a voyetra sequencer ? 2016/02/04 10:34:15 (permalink)
    rivers88: yes i did, but i also saw that the original poster was ONLINE at the time that i was responding.. so i knew he was still an active member on the site.
     
    im trying to find voyetra version 4.11 - the version posted publicly by turtlebeach is version 4.10 which is NOT the final version - version 4.11 had updates to its drivers that enabled you to use more complicated combinations of midi hardware interfaces, which is exactly what im trying to do, in order to get more than 32 or 48 channels of midi out of the app..
     
    in order for me to be successfull in doing this i need a copy of the installers of the final 4.11 version.
    see my post here:  
    the information im referring to i found in this documentation:
     
    and this text file:
     
    where it says "To get this to work with Sequencer Plus, you must obtain SP version 4.11 or higher, which will have an install explicitly for this."
     
    frustrating that turtlebeach makes it FREEWARE by posting it publicly.. but at the same time posts version 4.10 rather then the real final version v4.11 - im hoping this is an oversight + not an intentional kick to the face to people that want to use the sequencer for more then 1 or 2 midi ports out.
     
    if anyone can help me find the installer disks id really appreciate it, i bought these ancient midi interfaces specifically for this purpose + ive actually put a bit of effort into figuring out how this works.. only to get stuck on having the wrong version of the app.
     
    im running it on a 386 DX 40Mhz computer that i bought for about 20$
    with a cardinal ISA VGA card.. an ISA Music Quest MQX-32 card, a parallel Music Quest 2PORTSE interface, i also have 2 ISA Roland host cards + roland MPU-401 break out boxes, and  1 ISA Roland MPU-IPC-T interface. i need version 4.11 of the installers to be able to have the SAPI driver to be able to install a 2nd midi interface to use in combination with the first. basically the way the drivers work is you launch an initial driver that is a VAPI driver and then you launch secondary addon drivers called SAPI drivers. version 4.11 has more SAPI drivers in the actual installer that i dont even have that i need to accomplish what im trying to do.
     
    obviously i have other daw's and im doing this because its a challenge + information that was somewhat "lost in time"
    my website oldschooldaw.com is all about finding abandoned + Lost information and making it available again.
    if you can help me with my little quest to get my SPG working with more than 4 midi ports please msg me!!!!
     
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