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Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
There are a number of one finger chorders, that allow you to define the chord and voicing and apply it to a singe note, such as Insert Piz midi Chords.  But I've been wandering abut a different approach, based n a key switch style, and wondered f it already exist. Is there a chrder were in a low octave range 'keyswitch style', you can defince the voicing, (major/minor, Triad, 7th, 9th, inversion open/closed, drop two/four), then use the higher range for defining the root. So C1 = major triad C#1 = minor triad D1 = major triad 1st inversion D#1 = minor triad 1 st inversion E1 = major triad 3rd inversion F1 = major 7th F#1 = minor 7th G1 = major 7th open voice G#1 = minor 7th open vice A1 = 7th B = 7th open voice Pressing F1 and C3 would give me a CMaj7 Pressing G#1 and C3 would give me a Cm7 (open voice)
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/07 10:37:57
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Scaler is pretty much the same as Midi Chords, so you are defining the chord to the one note on the keyboard in advance.
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/07 15:25:03
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InstaChord?
Unfortunately no. It was on sale recently, and I almost bought on impulse, but after putting the breaks on and checking it out, I found the Key switches define the phrasing of the strum, not the voicing. mister happy
Not an answer to your question, but a question inspired by your message:
Can MIDI chords render and populate the PRV with the notes of the chord voicings or does it only present the chords during time playback?
Thank you.
Yes. It's set up as a VST and so has it's own midi track.  If you arm record to it's midi track, then you can change the program to find different voicngs. (If say ne prgram was triads, another 7ths, etc) But if you arm to record the synths midi track, you get the resultant chords recorded t the synth PRV
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
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Chordz seems to do something close to what you want. Haven’t tried it but might be worth a look.
https://www.musicradar.co...om-single-notes-617449
Thanks fr the suggestion, but it's anther one fingered chorder, just like MidiChrds pictured above. I'm looking for a two fingered chorder, where ne finger defines the chord gender and shape, the other the root of that chord. The distinction between these two appraches is: With a one finger, you are creating chords around the key and progression of your song. With a two finger, you are just defining chord genders and shapes, meaning 'all' keys are available at the same time.
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/09 06:09:56
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Maybe I misread it but doesn't chordz easy mode use the white keys for the main note and the black keys for the chord variation. That sounds similar to the approach you seek ie using two fingers. EDIT: I just tried Chordz and cannot get it to do anything in Easy Mode so scratch that.
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/09 11:12:54
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It does the same as midiChords, it's a one finger chorder. I'm looking for a keyswitch approach that requires two fingers.
If the keyswitch range was 12 semitones, then instead of assigning one chord to one note, I can assign twelve.
I forgot I have Chordz, but when I did a quick search, I recognized the CodeFN42 from my menu.
I'm guessing what I'm looking for doesn't exist, but there have been a number created in the past few years, and came close to the idea, so I was being hopeful something had come along
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/09 11:35:14
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On the subject of one note chorders, this absolutely blow my mind every time I watch and listen. It's ALL being triggered by just one note. Four Chorders in parallel, triggered from the one monophonic controller.
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/11 15:43:29
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The closest I've seen, which won't give you MIDI, is Strummed Acoustic in Auto Chord mode  I'll check some of my others ...
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/11 16:23:19
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Strummed Acoustic acoustic's key switches are strumming patterns I believe, in the similar way as instacord uses key switches, rather than voicings.
I'm wondering abut using program change messages assigned to keys, then changing programs in midiChords, but I'm concerned abut not off messages.
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/11 19:09:16
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Kamikaze
But I've been wandering abut a different approach, based n a key switch style, and wondered f it already exist.
Is there a chrder were in a low octave range 'keyswitch style', you can defince the voicing, (major/minor, Triad, 7th, 9th, inversion open/closed, drop two/four), then use the higher range for defining the root.
Yes, as far as chord types go. It doesn't do alternate voicings, inversions, etc. MIDI Chord Player is a built-in MIDI plugin within Waveform, so it appears to be locked to the host DAW.  Tracktion Waveform MIDI Chord Player There are key switches for 12 chord types, using one octave of the keyboard. So if you press a note elsewhere, you will play the root note of in whatever chord type you have selected with a keyswitch. You can record your performance to a MIDI track, and then render your generated chords within that track.
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/12 00:26:45
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If you have the tool that does chording you like, just record the same midi on two tracks and send to two synths. Each synth uses a different pattern. Use a midi event filter to let through the note range appropriate to each chord type. Invert the range on the two tracks so only one ever plays at a time.
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/12 00:46:46
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That's pretty damn close to what I am looking for and is what I've described, hopefully this idea will gain errrr ...traction and anther developer will do something similar with an plug in. I really like how you can move the keyswitch range, that's cool, especially for two octave keyboards, were you'd want the chords to sit in different ranges. When he said 'and if I do nothing, you gonna get a major chord' I was a little disappointed, especially as you can't define the key switches so there is a 'no chord' option. I'd hoped that not pressing a key switch would just play the singe note with no chord.
InsertPIz MidiChrds has three approaches to creating chords. Maybe I should see if I can persuade them to add a forth. They seem to have created one of the earlier versions of chorders, and although it's a bit more hands on than others (and looks less pretty, it still seems the most comprehensive in abilities.
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/12 02:13:58
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Kamikaze
That's pretty damn close to what I am looking for and is what I've described, hopefully this idea will gain errrr ...traction and anther developer will do something similar with an plug in. I really like how you can move the keyswitch range, that's cool, especially for two octave keyboards, were you'd want the chords to sit in different ranges. When he said 'and if I do nothing, you gonna get a major chord' I was a little disappointed, especially as you can't define the key switches so there is a 'no chord' option. I'd hoped that not pressing a key switch would just play the singe note with no chord.
InsertPIz MidiChrds has three approaches to creating chords. Maybe I should see if I can persuade them to add a forth. They seem to have created one of the earlier versions of chorders, and although it's a bit more hands on than others (and looks less pretty, it still seems the most comprehensive in abilities.
Thanks Abacab
I agree that was pretty close. After reading your post, was thinking I had seen that somewhere before... But that is not something that I use regularly. That version is very basic. With some enhancements, it could be very interesting. But it's still fun to play with.  My impression of the MIDI plugin market is that there is not enough market share to attract developers like the VST plugins do. Studio One also has a built in chorder, that's more basic than the one in Waveform, without keyswitching. It would be nice to find a complete MIDI chord plugin, that would do all that you have suggested! 
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/12 14:28:45
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Kamikaze
Strummed Acoustic acoustic's key switches are strumming patterns I believe, in the similar way as instacord uses key switches, rather than voicings.
I'm wondering abut using program change messages assigned to keys, then changing programs in midiChords, but I'm concerned abut not off messages.
In Auto Chord mode, voices are modified ...
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/16 19:37:22
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I think Mozaic autotheory may do something along the lines of what you are looking for
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
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I think Mozaic autotheory may do something along the lines of what you are looking for
Nooooooo! The current Auto Theory (v3.05) installs a MIDI device that adds 8 (IIRC) MIDI channels. It mucked up a number of things on my DAW, and uninstalling Auto Theory DOES NOT UNINSTALL the MIDI device. The dev is aware of the issue (for a couple of years, at least), and has done nothing to 'fix' it, including NOT giving us a way to uninstall that mess. v4 is in beta and the dev is actively looking for beta testers, so maybe he'll clean that up in the new version. Plus, it requires iLok (PC auths OK), if that matters to you.
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/16 23:43:54
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I like cthulu , komplete kontrol , i have others but i gravitate around those , akai vip looks really good also since you get way more than a chorder only.... there s also some free ones that do the jobbpretty well ....
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/17 00:22:43
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dubdisciple
I think Mozaic autotheory may do something along the lines of what you are looking for
Thanks, but its a one finger chorder, with the other finger playing the melody, not a two fingered chorder.
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
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Zo
I like cthulu , komplete kontrol , i have others but i gravitate around those , akai vip looks really good also since you get way more than a chorder only.... there s also some free ones that do the jobbpretty well ....
Cthulu is a one finger chorder. Looking for two fingered.
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/17 01:23:58
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Ah ok , there was one on sale few dayz ago on plugin boutique , called scaler it was dead cheap , was about to buy it and forgot to do so ...now back at 49 witch isn t to expensive either ...
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
2018/04/17 02:16:59
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☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2018/04/17 10:36:23
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Re: Anyne aware of a two finger chorder?
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