ronboy
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Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
I know that I'm in the Sonar 8.5 forum. Is anyone here planning to stick with Sonar 8.5 and not upgrading to Sonar X1. Well, no upgrading to Sonar X1 for awhile? Why? I don't want to upgrade because I just see a more complicated program with a new learning curve! What's you thoughts?
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/07 22:04:58
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I had 8.5 and I now own x1 too. If you have everything in 8.5 that you need to make your songs, then I would suggest staying at 8.5. Right now there are quite a lot of bugs still being fixed in X1 and so if you encounter a bug it can stall your workflow. If you need some of the new features in X1 then by all means take x1. Here are some new features that are new to x1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHk9_EPD_P4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PXkRMQTTsE hope this helps
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/07 22:10:29
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I'm hanging with 8.5 for the time being. For one thing, I've been too busy with other stuff to even use 8.5 as much as I'd like. No sense spending more money until I know I'll have time to use it. Once I get back to doing some more audio, I'll take another look at X1. I'm afraid it won't be for a while, though.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/07 22:45:22
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I'm sticking with 8.5. All the infighting and bickering on the X1 forum is enough to make me want to steer clear of it.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 01:09:25
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I have mixed feelings about X1. There are some good ideas in there. Unfortunately there are also some bad ideas. And a few badly-implemented good ideas. Given that there is little new functionality beyond the cosmetic, I couldn't actually give you a good reason to climb aboard the X1 bandwagon. It won't make composing, recording, editing, mixing or mastering any faster or any easier. It won't enable you to do anything you can't already do now. I look at X1 as a transitional phase. In future versions the bad ideas will be mitigated by adding more options and customization. The badly-implemented good ideas will become more polished, and the good ideas will lead to more good ideas. IOW, it'll get better. They're a smart bunch, those bakers. Until then, no worries, I'll just happily continue to make music with 8.5.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 03:21:13
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I am still running Sonar 7PE on Windows XP. It is all very stable and works fine without any issues. I don't feel a strong desire to upgrade at present. Maybe it's migration fatigue. I moved all my stuff to a laptop last year while my main PC was in storage/transit. The main PC was wasn't working properly when I got it back. I ended up reinstalling everthing. Meanwhile I was I building a new separate DAW PC, which initially had issues due to a faulty PSU. It's great now that everything is finally working properly. I am happy to stick with my current setup for now.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 03:46:38
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I am still with 8.5. I have been playing around with the X1 demo on my laptop while travelling and I think Bitflipper has summed it up well. For me, there is no compelling reason to upgrade. I am not saying never but there is always something that I would rather spend the money on. 8.5, going 64bit and getting Kontakt was a big leap forward for me. I am happy where I am at the moment.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 03:51:58
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ronboy I know that I'm in the Sonar 8.5 forum. Is anyone here planning to stick with Sonar 8.5 and not upgrading to Sonar X1. Well, no upgrading to Sonar X1 for awhile? Why? I don't want to upgrade because I just see a more complicated program with a new learning curve! What's you thoughts? I waited until a couple of months ago and made the switch. I enjoy using X1 a lot more than 8.5 - but I am a fan of 8.5 as well. So not knocking it. My experience is that I do navigate and move a bit faster in X1. So it's my go-to daw software. I have found it to be more pickier about some of the plugs I had loaded and that caused several crashes in the beginning. All of those plugs were older / freebies and they are now removed. I still get the occasional crash, but not often enough to warrant going back to 8.5. Apparently, there is another version coming at the end of August (X1C) to address some of the problems. But for now, I would say go for it. It's good software.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 04:29:29
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I'm running both 8.5.3 & X1 8.5.3 for all old/unfinished projects but all new stuff is created entirely within X1 Haven't had a crash for months working this way.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 05:40:28
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If I change from 8.5 (which is very unlikely) I'll propably go to another direction. If I have to face a real learning curve, I'd rather expand my vision and try another brand. I'm not at all interested in X1 now, but that doesn't mean forever... (..or to be accurate: I bought 8.5 over a year ago but haven't installed it yet on my main machine. Haven't worked one minute with it yet)
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 06:23:28
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Why not Kalle? 8.5.3 is a MASSIVE improvement over 6
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 08:09:00
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I bought 8.5 because of the free X1 bundle (sale last december). I'm very happy with 8.5, and don't plan on installing X1 anytime soon. Both because 8.5 fills my needs, and because of the remaining X1 issues i'm reading about.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 16:53:55
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I'm still at 8.5. It works for what I do. I'll probably jump to the next version when they offer a really killer feature. I've skipped many version steps since Pro Audio 7. That's how it goes for me. DaveT
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 18:24:11
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Still 8.5. Does what I need. Have learned to wait for the 3rd upgrade or so before changing JOhn
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 18:34:21
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Bristol_Jonesey Why not Kalle? 8.5.3 is a MASSIVE improvement over 6 Not enough time. It does bug me, I admit.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 19:22:45
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you give an honest answer,but you'll never jump to the next level till you jump up in technology. i can drive around in last years model of a ford mustang,but id rather be driving a brand new one...these two versions arent all that different...there a new gui with alot of the same features..getting used to where new button placement is takes what???a few weeks
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 19:45:15
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I'm totally fed up with the technical upgrade race, totally. I'll have the time when I retire in a few years time but I doubt if I'll have the money to upgrade the technology then. I'm about to slowly become a quitter, I'm afraid. Having only a few days a year for the hobby just doesn't work. It's frustrating. Moving from a house to a two room flat and letting the female companion go might give the movability needed :o/ , and of course, forgetting other hobbies like sport and movies is required, too. Jogging and exercise 4-6 hours a week takes a huge slice of the free time, especially when you add the time needed for proper meal, shower, relaxation etc.. Life is too short. Sorry...I went severely off topic.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/08 22:29:37
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There is no next 'next level', Kalle. There's only what's in you're heart & mind. If you have the time to write & record those feelings with whatever system you choose... then do it & don't listen to others telling you you have to change or upgrade. Like you've said... Life is too short. P.S. Hope the flat's ok.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/09 00:05:24
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Still with S7 Pro for same reasons as already mentioned. I never even bothered with 8 for the same reasons. I love my Sonar 7, It's stable as can be, And I have not even used a lot of features it offers, so why would I go looking for more yet again. I read the X1 forum once a day and I just see too many issues still happening. I guess if your what's called a full time power user, then you will certainly benefit from the upgrade, but if your like some of us who ( ya, not enough time) want to just pick up a guitar and record a song with no roadblocks in the way, stay with what you have.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/09 02:29:53
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I purchased X1. The sealed installation disc is still on my desk propped up against my monitor. The whole "Let's redo everything" notion isn't working for me. I don't have time to learn where everything is again. That combined with all these other issues people seem to have just makes it seem not worth the effort and time. I'll probably never install X1... 8.5 works great, and it's rock solid on my system.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/09 11:30:07
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Slugbaby I bought 8.5 because of the free X1 bundle (sale last december). I'm very happy with 8.5, and don't plan on installing X1 anytime soon. Both because 8.5 fills my needs, and because of the remaining X1 issues i'm reading about. That about sums it up for me too, except that I have installed X1, and am using it for a few relatively simple projects, such as mastering audio files that I've mixed in 8.5.3. Sonar 8 was a big step forward for me because of its reduced CPU load in particular. My most powerful setup is an Athlon x2 4800+ machine, which is far from state of the art, and Sonar 8/8.5.3 runs very well on it. I don't feel a lot of pressure to dig more deeply into X1. Regards, Lightninrick
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/09 11:55:31
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Bristol_Jonesey I'm running both 8.5.3 & X1 8.5.3 for all old/unfinished projects but all new stuff is created entirely within X1 Haven't had a crash for months working this way. exactly what I do. I had crashing problems with X1 when I first installed it, but that has been resolved and now X1 has been very stable and usable for me. I do, however have a couple of lagging projects that I am going to finish in 8.5 and not port over - mainly because of GR3.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/09 12:00:39
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I had been using Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 when I finally upgraded to 8.5 (.3). I had every intention of then keeping up with the yearly version upgrades, and looked forward to X1 coming out. However, I began to find that 8.5 was doing everything I needed it to (and oh, so much more). And then I started hearing the various issues with X1, and decided that I'm in no hurry and have no necessity to upgrade for the time being. I certainly won't wait another 10 years like I did before, but I didn't see anything groundbreaking in this version (X1). In another year or two, I'll probably upgrade...Maybe.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/10 07:52:59
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I'm definitely staying with 8.5- unless someday they create something with VARI-SPEED!!! There's a couple things about X! I really didn't like: especially the completely changed tools... also no way to change colors- I hate looking at GRAY all day! I do wish Cakewalk would continue upgrading the 8.5 line- I'd love to continue supporting them.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/10 08:52:36
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I've been on 7PE since it was released. It serves my purposes and then some. I haven't even explored all that it can do. I spent 6 months at Berklee learning how to use 7PE and got my nice little certificate. I do not want to start over again!
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/10 09:08:18
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murphmusik I've been on 7PE since it was released. It serves my purposes and then some. I haven't even explored all that it can do. I spent 6 months at Berklee learning how to use 7PE and got my nice little certificate. I do not want to start over again! Murph, at least get 8.5 man...honest when I tell you, it blows 7 away without you having to relearn everything. More cool ways to do things...go with 8.5 and stay there for life. LOL! I've had my comments about X1 and think it's a decent program that will probably be pretty killer once it's fixed up. However, and I mean this from the heart, I could stay with 8.5 for the rest of my life and not ever buy anything else. Of all the Sonar versions, 8.5 wins for me hands down with everything that I could ever want or need within a DAW for the most part. Definitely look into it...it blows PE7 out of the water on all counts yet isn't so different you don't know what you're looking at like X1. :)
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/10 10:24:42
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I have no interest in X1. Even if they gave it away free I wouldn't switch. This is because I still haven't totally mastered 8.5.3, having switched to it from v6. My reluctance is in no small part due to the lack of a decent all-encompassing printed reference manual for Sonar. (But maybe X1 has such a thing? If so, they haven't made a big thing about it.) My objective is to make music, not to mess around with the latest and greatest software, which is probably full of bugs if it's like other new software. I really don't have any inclination to fight the technology; I just want to use it!
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/10 10:27:08
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Murph, at least get 8.5 man... Where?
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/10 11:58:28
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great thread - I'm contemplating the same question More than content with sonar 7PE in my bag of tools but with the summer upgrade deals and a new Win7 64 bit box I'm about to build it is a question to ask. Reaktor redid their GUI in what I think is a similar fashion to X1 with the single pane and I do like the new Reaktor work flow. But inspirationally I'm heavy into the Daniel Lanois/Black Dub "a few notes and lot of soul" and that is running counter to upgrading for the sake of upgrading. I'm going to test drive the X1 demo on the new 64 bit build at least.
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Re:Anyone Sticking With Sonar 8.5
2011/07/10 12:04:43
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when DAW software was changing so much 10+ years ago, I think upgrading made some sense. To just stay current is another "pull" to upgrade, as someday with a new rig, will be the time to get the newest software potentially too, and that might make a transistion less painful. Some of the VSTi you just can't run on a Pentium2 with a gig of RAM...like Omnisphere... so you kinda have to stay computer updated and staying aboard with X1 kinda makes sense too... so you don't lose the benefits of what is current. However, I used reel to reels for a looong time and Sonar 7pe is what I use and I can navigate thru it quickly to get tracks down quick. Like others said, investing time in staying current and learning X1 isn't the priority, versus just making music. Yeah...pro channels sounds cool, but not at the expense of having to get as comfortable with a new program. At that point, it may be Pro Tools 11...who knows..
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