Anyone Try Drumtracker Yet?

If so, how is it working?

I have a toon that I recorded with a live drummer where his part is pretty complicated and while the groove is on the move, a fixing - it could behoove (poetry in motion - Bam!)

so does it work as a plug in sonar or external?

ORIGINAL: fitzj

What exactly does it do.
I have sd2 and ezdrummer plus the pro-player. Do I need more?

It is like an external drum replacement work station. It exports a midi file that you import into your project to drive a drum sampler. I've tested it by using SUPERIOR 2 drum track that had tempo changes gradually picking up speed at each section throughout the entire track. I froze a couple of tracks and used them as the source audio tracks for Drumtracker. When the rendered midi file was reimported back into the original piece I checked the result and I found that the rendered midi gave me a midi track that (timing wise) matched my original midi. That, I thought was pretty impressive.

However, if anyone thinks that this program is going to automatically figure out what your drum part should have been when it's being fed a track of mush, it ain't gonna happen. It's not a product for the experimenter to do endless "what if" scenarios. IOW, it's a repair tool not a gadget for experimentation. It's really to fix a problem with a drum recording that must leave the studio sounding satisfactory. It works best (meaning easiest) when fed a series of individual instrument tracks that have distinct transients that are higher in volume than the bleed from other instruments. IOW, don't feed it the stereo OH mix of the kit. Feed it the close mic tracks and let your drum sampler create the OH mix.

That's not to say that you can't work a stereo drum mix. You will have a lot of manual decision making in that case as you let Drumtracker know what instrument should be rendered for the transients that it finds but you will have all the tools you need to do that efficiently. The more you learn to work the program, the better and faster your results will come.

Dave
I usually track 9 channels of drums.
Kiok
Snare
Hat
Tom 1
Tom 2
Tom 3
OH pair

We are pretty careful to try to minimize bleed (though you cannot eliminate it obviously).

I am just looking to fix places where the timing lagged a bit or where a snare or tom hit didn't come in where it was supposed to.

How does it perform under that scenario?

Thanks

the timing lagged a bit or where a snare or tom hit didn't come in where it was supposed to.

Wouldn't audiosnap be better suited for that scenario?

My first choice too. However, the bleed issue makes Audio Snap very hard to work with. If I quantize a snare around here and there to fix some off beats, it creates phasing unless I try to quantize the hats, overheads, toms....
I have tried using gates on the toms and wherever else but still, the snare shows up lots of places no matter how careful we are with mic techniques. It is nearly impossible to get it out.

I am happy with the sound we are getting. I want to fix bad hits without the phasing issue from fixing the snare but not the other channels picking it up. I guess the alternative is to retrack.

Thanks though.