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2015/12/22 23:44:47 (permalink)

Anyone else concerned about drones?

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Is anyone else nervous about drones, especially with Christmas fast approaching and regulations being apparently very new and pretty light?
 
I can imagine a drone failing and crashing down on a highway in front of a car, similar to this one crashing down just behind a skier:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/22/drone-camera-almost-crashes-into-skier/
 
Not to mention the danger they pose to airplanes. It seems like they're still generally considered a toy, doesn't it?
 
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 00:13:30 (permalink)
They take some skill to control, so yeah it's a worry that anyone can just fling one of those things around in the air. A kid lost an eye recently when he got hit by the blades of an out of control drone. 
 
I remember when they first came out and it was a quirky little scene of enthusiasts putting kits together. Back then they were called quadcopters. A friend of mine upstate had one with a GoPro fitted to it, you could view the images through a set of googles and fly the thing like that. Incredible fun although I couldn't really wrap my head around how to control it. Lots of crashes. But he lives out in the sticks so nobody got hurt....

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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 03:20:04 (permalink)
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Hi-
 
Is anyone else nervous about drones, especially with Christmas fast approaching and regulations being apparently very new and pretty light?
 
I can imagine a drone failing and crashing down on a highway in front of a car, similar to this one crashing down just behind a skier:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/22/drone-camera-almost-crashes-into-skier/
 
Not to mention the danger they pose to airplanes. It seems like they're still generally considered a toy, doesn't it?
 
Thanks-
 
-Susan
 
 




I MUST get with the times!  The first thing that came to mind were those continuous notes that many songs start with (or the one set of strings on a sitar)...
 
Oh well!
 
As for the actual topic, there are now many "no fly zones" made illegal specifically due to drones (I believe there's also a height limitation as well).

 
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 03:26:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby kennywtelejazz 2015/12/23 04:19:20
The Japanese have developed a law enforcement drone. It's essentially a big drone that carries a net to snag other drones. In America there's more guns than drones so it won't take long to shoot them all down.
 
There's a lot of good work people could do with them, particularly in agriculture, building inspection, search and rescue. I hope the puddin' heads don't mess it all up.

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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 04:06:59 (permalink)
I have yet to see a drone anyplace other than on TV or in a Hobby shop .
There is a nice little park next to me where I would be pissed if any one was flying a drone anywhere s near me and my dog ... Everybody in the general area walks their dogs there . Also a lot of folks that are elderly walk around the park for exercise ..I sure hope I don't start seeing any drones there ...
A mile away there is a nice sized Wildlife Reserve with plenty of wide open space and fields  . It seems this place would be a very good place for somebody to fly a drone safely ....
I would probably enjoy watching a drone flight from a safe distance away....
 
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 07:36:35 (permalink)
Drones are wonderful. As long as they're not armed like the shotgun-equipped units being deployed in Texas.
 
I watched a documentary the other day about cave exploration, in what may turn out to be the largest cave system ever found. They used drones to capture some amazing video of parts of the cave no human has ever set foot in.
 
After that big earthquake in Nepal, there was HD video released the next day showing the devastation from about 100 feet up. Thanks to drones, the world got to see just how bad it really was, people opened their wallets and international aid started coming in right away.
 
Best of all, Amazon wants to start delivering packages by drone. This, I'm sure, will spawn a new sport: skeet-shooting with prizes!


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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 09:19:28 (permalink)
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The Japanese have developed a law enforcement drone. It's essentially a big drone that carries a net to snag other drones. In America there's more guns than drones so it won't take long to shoot them all down.
 
There's a lot of good work people could do with them, particularly in agriculture, building inspection, search and rescue. I hope the puddin' heads don't mess it all up.



AND ... in some places that's legal since it would be considered invading one's privacy!
 
I'm running the next orgy outside ... for all the drones!

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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 09:50:50 (permalink)
Susan ,
I wound up seeing the video of the drone crashing on the news ...WOW , That skier was actually pretty lucky .
It seems to me that an incidence  like that was a total freak accident ...
The drone and the drone pilot were professional and part of the team filming the athletic event .
Either way , if that's a pro doing his thing w a drone , now you got me quaking in my cowboy boots wondering if I have to wear full body armor and slap on my motorcycle helmet for a safety hat ...
I'm pretty sure sometime around the end of this week somebody is gonna be out there playing with their new Christmas toys . In the Airspace Right Over My Head ....
There's a lot of duck hunters over here in my area ...this shall be interesting
 
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 10:12:45 (permalink)
I wonder.....
 
How long will this thread drone on?
 
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 10:21:27 (permalink)
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I wonder.....
 
How long will this thread drone on?
 
BadaBoom.



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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 10:42:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/12/23 12:11:29
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bapu
I wonder.....
 
How long will this thread drone on?
 
BadaBoom.



 bapu you are something man .

 
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And as soon as we can put a name to it we'll let everyone know.
 
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post edited by ampfixer - 2015/12/23 10:55:12

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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 13:42:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Beagle 2015/12/23 14:10:59
Aside from the danger of people playing with drones near airports, I think it makes more sense to worry about people driving vehicles while under the influence of alcohol/drugs/cell phones/sleep deprivation/brain deprivation. 
 
A car traveling even at slow speeds is capable of far more damage than a drone. And for the foreseeable future car accidents will likely kill and seriously injure more people in the average minute than (non-military) drones will in the course of years.

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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 13:47:40 (permalink)
I don't see it as any different from R/C airplanes of yesteryear.  I do think this is funny, assuming the hawk wasn't injured:
 

 
 
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 14:05:46 (permalink)
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Hi-
 
Is anyone else nervous about drones, especially with Christmas fast approaching and regulations being apparently very new and pretty light?
 
I can imagine a drone failing and crashing down on a highway in front of a car, similar to this one crashing down just behind a skier:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/22/drone-camera-almost-crashes-into-skier/
 
Not to mention the danger they pose to airplanes. It seems like they're still generally considered a toy, doesn't it?
 
Thanks-
 
-Susan
 
 


They're a toy. I wouldn't worry about it too much. The government just wanted an excuse to step in and take away more rights while making some money. I find it extremely disgusting they'd put restrictions on toy planes that weren't bothering anyone.
 
This is only a step they're taking to stop all the video of their abuses even further because it's hard enough they have to worry about cell phones, but helicopter cameras? Meanwhile actual drones are bombing the crap out of innocent people and have even been used on American citizens. Not to mention the bloodbath in American streets with the police. Drones are the least of my concerns.
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 14:16:15 (permalink)
There have already been deaths as a result of accidents with unmanned aircraft systems.
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2013/09/05/remote-control-helicopter-kills-man-in-brooklyn/
 
These systems have been in use by hobbyists for decades and have been called radio controlled model planes until the practice of blowing up terrorists with armed versions popularized the term drone. Technically neither the radio controlled hobbyists weapon, not the usual terrorist killer are drones, since they are under the remote control of a human pilot. A drone is an autonomously navigating aircraft that does not need a pilot at all. 
 
Current regulations require that a pilot be at least 13 yo and require registration of the aircraft if it is over 0.55 pounds in weight and restrict it to an altitude of 400 feet. Drones weighing more than 55 pounds require special registrations. There is no requirement that the pilot have any training or competence and no license required to fly. If you are hit by a 54 pound drone falling from 399 feet operated by a 13 year old, that should make you feel much better. At least the responsible party will be identifiable by the official FAA registration on the wreckage. 
 
When automobiles were first released to the public, there was also no requirement that they be registered or the drivers certified either. When there got to be enough of them causing accidents, however, regulations seemed prudent.
 
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 14:24:54 (permalink)
I'm worried these drones may creep into my songs.
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 14:26:51 (permalink)
OK, in all seriousness I am not concerned about drones. If they ever negatively affect me or my family then I may become concerned. Yeah, I'm lazy that way... but still that's my choice and probably no one can guilt me into feeling different.
 
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 14:59:17 (permalink)
I'm thinking about the recreational use of drones, which is supposedly going to increase dramatically soon since they're very popular as gifts this Christmas. I should have made that clear, sorry. Of course they have many important and beneficial uses otherwise.
 
I certainly agree there are more dangerous things out there (cars, guns, etc.) but I'm capable of worrying about more than one thing at once :-).
 
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 15:02:46 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ampfixer 2015/12/23 17:08:20
I work with a lot of drone pilots. A close friend and colleague runs one of the largest user groups in the world. Drones, like any device can be extremely useful or cause headaches. In the hands of a skilled pro, breathtaking shots impossible to achieve any other way come to life. Surveying and rescue applications are also a consideration. Unfortunately there are currently little to prevent morons (with deep pockets) from usimg them irresponsibly. A drone that goes beyond hobby level capabilities is going to cost about 2000 and up once upgrades and accessories to make use practical get factored in. The average person spending so much tends to have a vested in not destroying purchase. The toy type drones usually don't  have the ability or range to cause major damage except by pure fluke. Drones CAN be an issue but considering all the other easy to obtain items vausing deaths daily  (alcohol, guns, irresponsible drivers...), the far is a little excessive. Soon law will catch up to hype. Loke mist reactionary laws, some will be excessive, but it is heading towards a more regulated hobby/profession regardless.
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 15:35:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/12/23 15:52:56
Susan G
I'm thinking about the recreational use of drones, which is supposedly going to increase dramatically soon since they're very popular as gifts this Christmas. I should have made that clear, sorry. Of course they have many important and beneficial uses otherwise.
 
I certainly agree there are more dangerous things out there (cars, guns, etc.) but I'm capable of worrying about more than one thing at once :-).
 
Thanks-
 
-Susan




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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 17:06:15 (permalink)
I think sometimes we get focused on relatively small problems as a diversion from real issues. So many things are far more likely to hurt us. Worse case scenario still results in death by drone being less likely than being killed by lightning. Until figures check change it is among the least on the least of my worries list.
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 17:26:45 (permalink)
Yes. Close calls are possible.
 
http://www.nydailynews.co...kier-article-1.2474745

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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 17:55:38 (permalink)
Maybe a little
 
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/26/first-state-legalizes-armed-drones-for-cops-thanks-to-a-lobbyist.html
 
Also, the ding dong that was at a protected wildlife park where you were supposed to stay on the trail to protect the fragile habitat, but he wanted a closeup of the water fall, launched his drone with built in camera, crashed it into the side of the hill, the scaled the fence, climbed up the steep incline to fetch his drone, and all the time chunks of moss and flora are cascading down below him.
 
Drones are tools in the hands of some, weapons in the hands of others, and dangerous toys in the hands of most.
 
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 17:55:38 (permalink)
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 21:35:37 (permalink)
Anyone else concerned?
Well yes, I am now after seeing that video Susan.
That's a real eye opener.
 
I'm hoping that one won't come flying into me as I'm on one of my motorcycles.
 
It's bad enough with the idiots in traffic, including the ones who purposely try to run me (us) off the road - and the dogs - and the cell phone drivers - and the other drivers - you know - the ones who never look in their mirrors when they're driving - and the ones who never look out their windows when they're driving - and the ones who should have never been let out on the roads or given a license in the first effen place.



 
 
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/23 22:02:21 (permalink)
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So you're multifrettable then? 



Hi Bob-
 
Yes. Yes, I am !
 
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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/24 09:46:09 (permalink)
Am I concerned? Not at this point. I am not going to let drone-fear affect me. 
 
I believe I saw this on SharkTank or via a KickStarter request, but there is a drone coming out that lets you use your iPhone as the camera. Is has a slot to put your phone into and take your amazing videos while flying the drone around. First thought, that's 'cool'. After the coolness subsides, reality hits and you have to wonder about using your $400 phone device as the camera in one of these.  

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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/24 09:46:51 (permalink)
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I'm worried these drones may creep into my songs.



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Re: Anyone else concerned about drones? 2015/12/24 17:40:04 (permalink)
According to the company that owned and operated the drone involved in the skier incident, the drone lost control due to "strong and unforeseen interference on the operating frequency".
 
The question should be: where would a sudden blast of 2.4 to 5.8 GHz come from up on a mountaintop? It would have had to be either a very strong signal, or a narrow beam aimed directly at the drone. Either way, it's unlikely to be an accident. More likely, it was either sabotage or a prank.


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