Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48?

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2017/03/19 03:33:05 (permalink)

Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48?

I know a few here have used the TC Konnekt48 in the past.  I still use and like mine but as it's getting a little long in the tooth I can't help but wonder if it's time to consider upgrading.  I always kinda keep my eye open to what's out there and what I see are things like the Saffire Pro40, 56, etc., but they actually use some TC technology (jitter, I believe) so I'm not sure it's a step up. Plus the Konnekt for it's price point has an unbelievable amount of i/o as well as the remote.  Dynamic range is 100db which was probably great when it was new but lags behind even budget interfaces now, if that even means much.  I understand quality of conversion and the circuits around it are as, if not more, important than just the spec itself.  So I was wondering if anyone has upgraded from this specific interface?  The zoom uac-8 looks interesting at a comparable price point.  I'm not opposed to staying with firewire as I have a card in my PC already.  I also have USB 2 and 3.0 so can go any way.  I'd like to keep the same style of interface as well, 1ru, similar ins/outs, etc.  Not really interested in modular units like the Audient stuff or uac-2 or tac-2.  It seems to keep a comparable format and i/o I'd need to look at something like the RME UFX or Apollo 16.  Anyways, just thought I'd ask. My Konnekt is still chugging along but since it's discontinued and quite old, I think I need to start thinking about another one...
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    Re: Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48? 2017/03/19 11:12:39 (permalink)
    Hi. As a RME (Ucx) owner, i can say that you will not be disappointed if you go with RME.
    Very good drivers, low latency and a very powerful (flexible and complex) software mixer called TotalMix  .
    Clean preamps with 65 to 75 dB of gain, depending on model.
    They are also known for supporting (drivers and firmware for) devices long out of production.
    All the best.
    Edit: I have not owned a Konnekt48
     

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    Re: Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48? 2017/03/19 12:31:07 (permalink)
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     It seems to keep a comparable format and i/o I'd need to look at something like the RME UFX or Apollo 16.... 



    Agreed.  I had a Konnekt 24D (little brother to the 48) that sits in my closet as a backup interface, and still use two Konnekt 6's for various audio-listening tasks. Those TC Electronic units are something special (features and high-end specs), but because of long-standing driver issues, a lot of users got tired of waiting and dumped them on Ebay.
     
    They finally did iron out those drivers, but yeah, too little, too late for many.  I ended up going to Steinberg interfaces, which was about a lateral move specs-wise.  But my next interface will be an RME.

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    Re: Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48? 2017/03/19 16:06:24 (permalink)
    I used my TC 48 and a couple of years ago got a TASCAM UH-7000.  Could hear the difference, although the TC is still good sound - esp. the DA.  You should be able to digitally connect the 7000 to the TC - and with the latest drivers the TC was down to about 4 ms latency on my older system  (much better than the TASCAM stuff unless you go with the US 20x20 USB 3 connection - which replaced the TC for me).
     
    If I had the money I'd go with Lynx.  While their pci cards run about a grand, the rack units (8/16 ADDA) are over $2000.  But they'll run on USB, MADI, AES and dante and they are as good as it gets for clean conversion.
     
     

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    Re: Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48? 2017/03/19 17:41:28 (permalink)
    Lol, ya, if I had the money. It'll likely be rme for me as well but even used, the UFX is still about 2X what I paid for the Konnekt48 new. And that's without the rme remote unit. And forget about the new UFX+, I'd love that but $$$ (and even then, the Konnekt48 has more physical analog I/o on the unit).

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    Re: Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48? 2017/03/19 19:12:44 (permalink)
    A 2nd hand Ucx, perhaps? Or BabyFace? Depending on how many ins and preamps you need.
    You could get a ADA8200 if needing more preamps, as they get quite good feedback from users.

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    Re: Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48? 2017/03/19 19:47:33 (permalink)
    I guess a ucx could sit on the desk while adat ins could be in the rack. If I went used I'd probably try and sniff out a ufx or apollo maybe.
    Edit: Just looked at a Lynx Aurora 16, impressive but again, would need to find one used...

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    Re: Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48? 2017/03/20 02:25:09 (permalink)
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    I guess a ucx could sit on the desk while adat ins could be in the rack. If I went used I'd probably try and sniff out a ufx or apollo maybe.
    Edit: Just looked at a Lynx Aurora 16, impressive but again, would need to find one used...



    Lynx just came out with newly-upgraded units.  You might find one of the older models cheap, either blow out or someone upgrading.  The 8 channel used to list for $2000, although I doubt you'll find one for half that price.  Lynx holds value better than the TC.

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    Re: Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48? 2017/03/20 04:07:26 (permalink)
    Yeah 2nd hand Konnekt48s run about $600-700cdn. Lynx units are still $1500-2000cdn from what I've found. So are the RMEs and Apollos. I wonder how much of a "night-and-day" difference there would be (if any) between the units...

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    Re: Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48? 2017/03/20 04:07:27 (permalink)
    Yeah 2nd hand Konnekt48s run about $600-700cdn. Lynx units are still $1500-2000cdn from what I've found. So are the RMEs and Apollos. I wonder how much of a "night-and-day" difference there would be (if any) between the units...

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    Re: Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48? 2017/03/20 04:11:51 (permalink)
    I don't know why it posted 2 replies...

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    Re: Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48? 2017/03/20 05:15:49 (permalink)
    That is a valid point.  A good preamp for anything you record acoustically would probably be of more benefit, sound-wise, than converters.  I am hard pressed to hear a difference between my two modern tascam units, unless I really listen and even then, there is a lot of confirmation bias.  Once you reach a certain level of sonic competence, that last 5-10% is slicing pretty thin bread.  Still, unless I'm recording more than 2 instruments, I always use the 7000.  ;-)

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    Re: Anyone ever upgraded from a Konnekt48? 2017/03/20 06:01:05 (permalink)
    I hear you. I have Seventh Circle pres here, plus a Soundcraft M4 AND the Konnekt's pres so pretty happy with that setup. I'd even put the M4's pres ahead of the Konnekt's. I'm sure there's a sonic improvement in the pres of a higher end unit. For that matter, the D-pres on the Yamaha mixers and Steinberg interfaces are better, at least to my ears. Not that the Konnekt's are bad at all. They're quite good. I know at some point everything's going to be obsolete, just feel like I'm nearing it for the Konnekt. Who knows, maybe Behringer will resurrect it as a cheaper Euphoria48!

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