Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't work?

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2011/08/22 12:01:06 (permalink)

Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't work?

I used Melodyne Plugin for years without incident, then Celemony discontinued it and I was forced to buy Editor instead for an extra £112.00.  That was painful enough, but since I've had Editor it has refused to work for more than two minutes at a time.
It then locks up, Sonar with it, and I have to force everything to shut down.  I've tried Celemony's recommendation of using 1024 sampes, but no change.
 
I thought it might be something to do with the AVX problems us Sandy Bridge owners had with Sonar after we'd applied Windows 7 SP1 which introduced the wretched things (no, I don't know what they are either).  But AVX was fixed in X1c and my Melodyne Editor still gums up Sonar after two minutes' use.
 
When I posted about this before no one was having trouble with Melodyne Editor, hence my new question:
- do you have a Sandy Bridge DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor?  If so, does Editor work for you in that environment?
 
Thanks,
John 
 

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    John
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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 12:09:45 (permalink)
    There was a post from Noel saying that Sandy Bridge on some computers is broken and is a problem. I don't think X1 c fixed that. It is a computer hardware issue. I would contact your computer maker to check what they can do. Some machines were recalled according to Noel.

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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 12:11:25 (permalink)
    I've not got that kind of system. But I have been tinkering with the ME trial version, and it crashes constantly on my system too. Shame, as what it does is astounding.

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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 12:16:33 (permalink)

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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 12:23:53 (permalink)
    John,
    No, AVX was all fixed in X1c, I had email exchanges with Noel back in May when his team proivded me a special build for the time being and I checked with him that X1c incorporated all those AVX changes, and after I updated to X1c all the spooky things were gone.  I'd hoped my Melodyne Editor issue was related to AVX issues in Sonar, but it would now appear it's a Melodyne issue.   

    John T,
    Now, that's interesting.  Maybe there are others having the same trouble.

    Thanks
    John

    PS: People called something other than John are more than welcome to contribute to this thread by the way.
    post edited by Skyline_UK - 2011/08/22 12:27:54

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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 13:07:23 (permalink)
    John (Skyline), what has your Sonar X1 experience been in general using a Sandy Bridge system?

    I'm planning on upgrading my Core 2 Quad system soon (as in as early as the next few days), but it's tough to decide between Sandy Bridge and the previous generation -- i7-875s are now selling for under CDN$250.

    Did you install X1 on your current system, or upgrade to SB after starting to use the current Sonar? Any SB-related snags other than the Melodyne one?

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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 13:08:00 (permalink)
    John,
    did you try:

    - disable Hyperthreading
    - Thread SchedulingModel 0-2
    - MixThreadCount value 1-4 
    - disable MultiProcessing-Engine ?

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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 16:10:00 (permalink)
    GlennKay


    John (Skyline), what has your Sonar X1 experience been in general using a Sandy Bridge system?

    I'm planning on upgrading my Core 2 Quad system soon (as in as early as the next few days), but it's tough to decide between Sandy Bridge and the previous generation -- i7-875s are now selling for under CDN$250.

    Did you install X1 on your current system, or upgrade to SB after starting to use the current Sonar? Any SB-related snags other than the Melodyne one?

    Regards
    Glenn

    Glenn
    My Sandy Bridge was a brand new DAW from a specialist audio supplier, DARC, in the UK.  Forget about the recall issue, that happened in January and Intel quickly corrected the chip and all supplies since April have been fine.  I installed Sonar X1 clean, i.e. not on top of 8.5, which was on my old DAW.  All was ok until I installed the Windows 7 SP1 and then I noticed odd glitches with clips.  Luckily, after a few abortive attempts to find out if others had encountered the problem (near zero at that time as for the first - and last -time in my life I'd decided to be an early adopter....), Noel Borthwick took an interest and emailed me.  He was becoming curious as to whether all was well with the way Sonar was using the new Intel AVX  protocols.  He sent me various test builds for me to try until I confirmed that things were now ok.  That was in May and I used that build until the fixes were published in X1c.  I now have a 'normal' SONARPDR.EXE and I haven't encountered any of the oddities I was having before.  So I reckon is ok for Sandy Bridge users to go back in the water.
    You could always ignore Windows 7 SP1, or roll it back if you already have it, but I figure that you have to comply with these sooner or later.
     
    My view is that Sonar is fine now as far as Sandy Bridge processors are concerned.  More and more are coming into use and I haven't seen any other issues mentioned on this or other forums like Sound On Sound.
     
    As far as my Melodyne Editor nightmare is concerned, I think that is either down to 'one of those things' (an obscure glitch thrown up by a certain unpredictable combination/interaction of hardware, drivers, etc, etc) or more likely a glitch in Melodyne.
     
    John   
    post edited by Skyline_UK - 2011/08/22 16:13:36

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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 16:12:43 (permalink)
    "Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't work"
    No, but I have a Lynnfield running Windows 7 SP1 and Guitar Rig that doesn't work since installing X1C.

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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 16:15:55 (permalink)
    I know Bub, I know how frustrating these episodes are.

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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 16:20:09 (permalink)
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    John,
    did you try:

    - disable Hyperthreading
    - Thread SchedulingModel 0-2
    - MixThreadCount value 1-4 
    - disable MultiProcessing-Engine ?

    No, but I will.  Thanks Sandmannchen.
    Are those based on particular experiences, or just possibilities worth trying?
     
    John

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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 18:34:25 (permalink)
    Skyline_UK, by any chance are  you using a PCI audio interface?
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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 18:40:24 (permalink)
    Some users of Samplitude Pro 11 had problems with melodyne editor too, and we tried a lot of things to get it work properly. Sonar is not blacklisted, so why not tweaking a few settings and give it a try.

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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 19:30:17 (permalink)
         "...My view is that Sonar is fine now as far as Sandy Bridge processors are concerned...."

    Thanks for sharing your experience' it's good to hear that it's working, John. I've been tearing my hair out deciding between a Sandy Bridge and a Lynnfield i7. I think the smart money has to go with the newer technology, although local PC shops are starting to blow out i7s (e.g. CDN$249 for an i7-875k)

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    Re:Anyone got a Sandy Bridge-based DAW, Windows 7 SP1 and Melodyne Editor that doesn't wor 2011/08/22 19:53:07 (permalink)
    John,

    I've been using Melodyne Editor on my Sonar X1C and my Sandy Bridge motherboard without the issues you've described.  I even started a project and threw Melodyne on one of the tracks just to verify for you tonight and had no issues.  I captured and manipulated the audio in the editor just to see if I could make issues happen, but for me I'm not seeing any.

    In fact, it is very smooth since the 64-bit version of Melodyne has come out for me.

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