Anyone having luck with Novation Automap-wrapped plugins inside Sonar Platinum?

 
This google search of these forums brings forth a lot of misery related to Automap.
 
However, Randy, you wrote a couple of years ago that you got it to work with X2 ?
What happened in the meantime ?
 
 
 
 

Yep, the startup scan is detecting new plugins after they're initially enabled in Automap, but -
 
For some reason, the wrapped plugins aren't showing up in the Plugin Manager, even though they're in the same folders as the original plugin.  So, that appears to be the failure point - since they don't show up, there's no wrapped version of the plugins available to load into a Sonar project. Without the wrapped plugins being available, Automap has nothing to work with.
 
My computer is a new build, so I no longer have a way to look at the way they used to work.
Bummer...
 
Thankfully, the Automap mixer functions work fine, but it sure would be nice to be able to use the plugin functionality!!

Have you tried doing a "reset" and re-scan of you VST plugins in Sonar preferences ?
I definitely have two versions of each plugin after my install, and they show up in plugin manager as duplicates with different filenames.
eg.  c:\program files\cakewalk\vstplugins\Channel Tools\Channel Tools (Automap).dll
       c:\program files\cakewalk\vstplugins\Channel Tools\Channel Tools.dll

One difference in our systems may be that I installed Automap when I had Sonar X3e, then I did the Sonar Platinum upgrade . . . did you install it while on Sonar Platinum version . . . I'm wondering if the install doesn't support that yet ?
Sorry, might be running out of ideas to help, and I do recall the Sonar installation of Automap being a bit tricky.
Do you have "Automap MIDI" selected in preferences Midi devices ?

I' m using a Novation Nocturn with both x3e, and Platinum on an old quad core pc with 6 gb RAM and Win7 X64, with no problems. I did do a reset and a rescan on both the Nocturn and Sonar (in that order). Be sure that you have the latest drivers from Novation. Best of luck.

I realize this is an older thread, but thought that with the Automap 4.10 release (supposedly "supports SONAR") there might be more experience base. 
 
I just upgraded to SONAR Platinum to take advantage of the <forever...> thing, and at the same time, have bought a Novation SL Mkii 49 for my DAW (been using my NORD for a long time, but it does not have a pitch wheel, which I miss more and more (I have even twice dragged my Roland XP10 out of the attic recently, but it is 'sad'). 
 
I'm liking Platinum and getting used to some of the recent layout/workflow update/changes. I followed the instructions to install Automap. Bottom line...everything works, but with some annoying stuff. Some of the learning pain was not knowing what to expect in terms of workflows. I thought that I could list the annoying things here and see if I'm missing an opportunity to make it better. 
 
1. The mixer seems to work great, although in my search for synths, I failed to notice that there is no <Master Volume> slider on this synth. A mile dissatisfier, but I'll live...my trusty Frontier Tranzport has a volume knob.
 
2. Automap did create wrapped files for all the VSTs and RTASs that I pointed it to...these show up in the directories with the same file name with < (Automap)> appended...yes, a space and 2 parentheses in the file name. However, inside of SONAR all the menus just show two entries with the exact same name. My first thought was...OK, I'll just figure out if the AM one is the top or bottom entry...turns out to be random. So my workflow to insert a synth or effect becomes: try one of the FX/Synth entries, then open it up and see if the automation information comes through...if not, then try the other one. 
 
3. This brings me to the next issue. The first time I open a wrapped synth (or FX) the SL Mkii flashes and comes alive with all the controls. Subsequent closing and opening does not work. Sometimes it works if I push the mixer button on the SL and then open the synth, sometimes it works better if I push the Instrument button on the SL. Haven't been able to figure out a systematic approach. 
 
4. Needless to say, this uncertainty is a drag on workflow and productivity during the formative stages of a project, which is where I hoped I would get the most from this controller. I read the "8.3" comments above and mostly understood, but it seems to be a different problem...please comment or correct me if I'm wrong. It would be great to get some type of Automap label in the SONAR listings to distinguish the two. Maybe I have to just use the editor to hide all the non-automap files??
 
5. Is there anyway to reverse the wrapping process and start over, other than manually going through and deleting all the files with Automap in the label?
 
...this was more of an adventure than I hoped for, however, overall I like this synth a lot. Normally, I don't like synth keyboards, but since I have the Rhodes and NORD on tap, I opted to get something with fast repeat capability...it is a very responsive keyboard (a little touch at higher velocities, but I'll get used to it). I like the Roland style Pitch/Mod lever as well...it's mucho improvement over my XP10. 
 
Please comment away if you have anything to add...4.10 seems very close, but shared experiences can certainly help.