Grem, guys,

Here is a Sonar X1 fx chain without the questionable parametric. Thing looked too old and antiquated anyway, so likely what crashed it.

http://en.swoopshare.com/file/9ba2b44b15bba89489b375d04540c060/test.fxc.html

Think Boost is installed with Sonar 1X. If so, this chain should open. HeadCase knocked up a notch with extra upstream pressure. Doesn't properly show the pickup modeling potential, but a test to see if this mode of communication works.

Back to the drawing board if this goes down.

John

Grem,

The chain works fine here. I looked at the code and there may be a problem in the locations of the plugs. As far as I can interpret, Boost sets a default location from the original install. HeadCase has some very specific drive settings in the chain I posted, possibly because I didn't install to the Sonar default vst directory.

This may mean that as long as you are on the same computer, fx chains should be routed to where the vst's are installed and a reliable way to save and open effects settings. Take the chain to another computer and it may not find the vst's if they are not installed to the same place.

Hope I am wrong about this.  It would make sharing presets difficult. Maybe someone with better knowledge can help clarify the mechanics of the fx chain file. As soon as I get some time off, I can test using a couple computers and verify what the problem is.

Best,
John


Yeah, Rough Rider is an excellent compressor

This is a reminder that having a job is good :-) .

I'm 1/4 of the way through a 48 hour shift and have just downloaded and installed the new release of Head Case.  I have a guitar and amp here at work but no way of connecting the guitar to the PC to check out Head Case :-( .

Grem,

I was able to load John's first fx chain he posted but I had the same issues he referred to about not being about to find all of the fx.

The last chain he posted is a .fxc file that didn't show up in Reaper whereas the original chain was a .RfxChain file.

I tried renaming the 2nd file to match the 1st and it showed as available but nothing loaded when inserted.

Once I learn what I am doing in Head Case I am sure I will be glad I pre purchased it.  I'm looking forward to experimenting with a guitar connected but that will have to wait another day.

John,

Sorry for not recognizing Sonar's fx chain file format.  I don't recall ever using them before.  I'll try it when I get back home.

I agree with you on respecting the Cakewalk forums.

I also wholeheartedly agree with you on fx chain sharing.  A lot of fx usage is subjective and personal but it would be great to view other user's perspective.  It may be just what another user was trying to achieve or it may point them in a direction they may never have thought about going.

Thanks again for wanting to be helpful.

Hey guys,
 
Quick report from the trenches.
 
I got the fx chain to open in Sonar on a different computer that has the dll in a different directory. There was a quirk in getting it to work.
 
The error message came up at first about the missing dll and showed the path written into the original chain based on the first computer. This would have been a major problem. Seems however you can "prime the pump" by opening the missing vst to any audio track on the second computer as it is normally registered there. Sonar will then recognize the fx chain and build it as if it were on the original computer.
 
Back to the pit and would like to confirm, but this is good news if it consistently works without crashing things.  Decent return for a couple extra steps.
 
John

Grem


Inaheartbeat you can send ken a plea for an extension of the Pre purchase.  He's been on this thread so he might let ya slide. You never know. 

But go to the web site and pick up "Red Shift". It's a pickup sim. Works great!! Also pickup the "RangeMaster". Both of those will work well infrontof any amp sim.  Just don't push it too much.  

Thanks for the suggestions. I have sent Ken a message and I will check those out.


Ken

About effects chains..
That was the basis for the freud render utility in head case. The idea for that was to be able to open an FXP file and save all the vsts and corresponding files to a screen shot image of the chain so that you could distribute an entire effects chain plugins and all. I still may get back to that when things cool down and I can have some "NEW" development time.

PPF Portable Preset Files. That would be cool! but there is probably a lot into it that I have not even thought about yet and just like every development I get interested in, it would end up being a year!

Thanks all for the support! I will publicly note here that I promised Ken some Popeye's chicken should he ever come to the Boston area.

As for programming, my background is in computer networking but I certainly can read  code. God knows I wrote enough of it! If you ever need someone to explain how the internet works I am your guy lol. I will definitely check out the rest of the stuff in the beta bin.

The evil part of my brain is wondering just what type of sonic horrors I can produce by going beyond putting a guitar in front of it and maybe sticking some Omnisphere stuff in there also. So much for my pledge to do my wedding related stuff this weekend :-)

Ken

Cyan? I have a question.

Some time ago the Reaper forums had threads about the Cyan plugins. It may have been John or someone who was talking about beta testing a Cyan Ghetto.

This plugin had some high reviews and hyped as the best thing since bottled water. I lost track and missed downloading it.
Does anyone remember what it was for and is a demo available to try it out. Thx.
 
Eddie V

I know that I am enjoying this latest release since I have it working quite well in the "other" DAW.  I haven't yet tried it in X1 but I will get around to it.

I was finally able to load a new head that was posted on the beta test site that I was unable to do in the earlier release.  I haven't figured out how to get a hold of Guillotine yet but I hear folks raving about it.

I will be glad when the Asylum forum is up and running with more info on how to use the significant amount of options within Head Case.  Until then, I spent more time today jamming and twisting knobs and sliders than I have in a long time.  And enjoying playing again.

Thanks Ken and team.

Eddie, 
 
Got to dive in on this one. Don’t got to work tomorrow and a couple beers in me so can ramble more than most will have the patience to read.. 
 
It was probably me that was trying to get the guitar bangers to look at Cyan Ghetto Bass (good memory dude). This was actually better than bottled water. 
 
The frustrating thing is that Ken left it half baked. The plugin has two bad bugs. It will not save presets. You have crafted the Byrds ring and can't save it. One of the pan controls does not work. A diamond in the rough. It was headed to the stellar regions but got off course and forgotten somewhere along the line. 
 
This is only my opinion. There’s state of the art, and there’s industry standard. Overdrive industry standard can be battled out with the Waves rigs, Guitar Rigs, Revalvers, etc,etc. Ken set the state of the art with HeadCase. State of the art may or may not be recognized by the masses but is a benchmark above industry norms. 
 
Grem told this one like it is. 
 
Ken backslid on Ghetto, but has said he will look at the original Cyan Ghetto Bass at some point. Cyan Ghetto was state of the art if the bugs were fixed.

Ken, any opening to bug you about Cyan Ghetto Bass is worth the effort. 
Instead, with Cyan Ghetto Bass, what came out was a dropdown to industry standard.  HeadCase has the Riesen rack derivative of the original Cyan masterpiece. My understanding is that this was done to make CPU usage less, upgrade code, whatever. Only Ken can clarify this and what was going on and where the future of this vst stands.. 
 
HeadCase users will get a solid, industry standard octaver. Fire up Amplitube, fire up Guitar Rig. Use their octave generator and the Acme Riesen rack will spar with them on equal ground. 
 
This is what I heard with uneducated ears and felt as a lay endpoint user. Commercial octave generators follow about the same dry format. Note is resampled with some collateral delay damage and mixed with the dry signal. The better racks have two generators so that you can get an octave above and octave below. Riesen got the traditional two. 
 
What results is something artificial and sterile. Cool effect in the right engineering hands but dead. 
 
Cyan Ghetto Bass broke the cycle. We may never get absolute real, but Cyan did some dirt simple brilliant mods on the standard design that breathed life into the concept, came up with something way ahead of the pack. 
 
Pick up a 12 string Rickenbacker or some bass dude trying to follow your lead (or other way around). There’s many factors that separate the live sound from a dumb math calculator. The 12 string has the octaves warping in and out of tune. Frequency response of the strings is different. 
 
Ken’s original Cyan Ghetto Bass experiment gave the two generic independent resamplers, but added a chorus and fine tune eq to the wet paths. Forking genius!!! 
 
Ken, buggin’ you again about this. We need a fix on this diamond. If the original is out of fix range, can the current Reisen filter have the original chorus and eq added. Would be fantastic to have this as an independent vst like the old Ghetto Bass. Changing the HeadCase rack would bring octave processing to the level of what you’ve done to overdrive. 
 
Note, I looked at the beta thread archive. It seems that later versions of Ghetto Bass are there, but not the original Cyan unsung icon. 
 
Ken, it’s up to you, your call. I have the old Cyan vst and could post it for a month on Swoopshare so the warriors here can see what the distant past hype was all about. Hope you haven’t forgotten to fix this when time allows. One of your best creations. 
 
Best,
John

(edit) having a terible time editing fonts and size. Must have something with MS Word...
 
Peace and blessings to all.

post edited by JohnKenn - 2011/12/03 22:37:13

John is talking about Kens inventions, I like the Red Shift Pick-Up sim. Really nice. I like it a lot.  

But some of Ken's best work is his filters they are by far the best  I have heard for guitar. 

Grem, had forgotten about Red Shift. Will try using it as a driver in front of HeadCase. The thought is almost scary...

Thanks Guys. I didn't read all the posts because as you can guess I'm seriously pressed for time. Time is not my friend right now!

Anyways About CYAN...I looked at that the other day and jotted some notes down about it. What I want to do with it is take something similar to the retro chorus we have now and the riesen Harmonifier and combine the two to recreate the ghetto bass. Whats fuzzy is what were the exact controls that were part of it? I can't remember exactly what was on there?

About Redshift
For about 3-4 months we have been formulating a plan for Redshift II. There is going to be an update, but we want to make sure we properly address All the shortcomings of the first release, which is CPU usage, latency, UI, and accuracy. This release is a paid for release so we want to make absolute sure that its worth it for you...
Quite a few tmes in the past we(I) thought we had it and were going to release, but at the end of it, it just didn't seem good enough. Part of that is my own being anal about stuff and people probably would have liked a few of the past designs. One thing however I have learned from having the Head Case prepurchase is that you can guess all you want at what you think people want. You are wrong...
So, the best thing to do is just simply ask!

What are some of the things you would look for in Redshift II...?