rick7653
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Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi? Any tutorials that cover that subject?
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/18 03:24:22
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Page 651 of the SONAR Reference Guide addresses this...
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/18 11:45:13
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I suspect that no one who has tried it ever experienced anything worth making a video or tutorial about.  
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/18 12:34:31
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I suspect that no one who has tried it ever experienced anything worth making a video or tutorial about. LOL! I haven't tried it in quite a while. The last time I did, it planted the MIDI clip way out beyond where I expected to find it, and wasn't even close to what I expected based on the V-Vocal clip. -Susan
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/18 12:37:38
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I just happened to try it on a short audio clip last weekend.
The results weren't even in the ball park...........so maybe I do need a tutorial video.
JV
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/18 12:41:59
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I haven't tried it and, frankly, haven't considered using it but I suspect that its only use would be on a single, mono timbral source...Not with chords or such...
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Susan G
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/18 12:52:54
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I haven't tried it and, frankly, haven't considered using it but I suspect that its only use would be on a single, mono timbral source...Not with chords or such... Right, that's what I tried it on, but it didn't even come close. -Susan
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/18 14:29:17
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must admit... I've only tried it once...
but it was ****in!
OK gettin past the inane...
YES it does provide good results in basic song (or sound) construction
If I can find the prduction example, I'll send it along...
I have spoken with folks that used it a bit t it's been a whle back and I can't remember who right now...
Please do let us know when you find something...
Has anyone tried looking on Scott Garrigus' or Craig Anderton's websites?
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rick7653
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/19 05:27:19
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The reason I ask is that I am a keyboard player. I want to sing the notes for guitar solos into v-vocal then convert them to midi to use with a guitar sample after I pich correct them. I got the notes in my head but I can't play guitar even a little. I am horizontally challenged. hehe
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/19 11:04:56
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The reason I ask is that I am a keyboard player. I want to sing the notes for guitar solos into v-vocal then convert them to midi to use with a guitar sample after I pich correct them. Are you talking about trying to capture pitch bends? In my experience, V-Vocal can't even accurately convert a series of fixed pitch notes to MIDI, much less get the bends right. I think you will get better results more quickly by just playing the part from the keyboard with the guitar patch you ultimately intend to use, and adding bends with a combination of real-time entry by pitchwheel and manual tweaking of controllers.
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/19 11:15:12
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rick7653
The reason I ask is that I am a keyboard player. I want to sing the notes for guitar solos into v-vocal then convert them to midi to use with a guitar sample after I pich correct them. I got the notes in my head but I can't play guitar even a little. I am horizontally challenged. hehe
Its very simple to use, but what you are trying to do is probably not going to work the way you want. 1) Record your audio clip 2) Select the clip 3) Right-click the clip and select Create V-Vocal Clip 4) In V-Vocal, select the Pitch-to-MIDI button (the music note at the lower left of the V-Vocal editor) and drag and drop it on a MIDI track. The results will depend on the quality of the track you're converting.
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/19 14:00:22
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The results will depend on the quality of the track you're converting Not based on my attempts to use it. In an effort to make sure I wasn't asking for too much of it to understand the pitches I sang, I recorded a dry sin wav C major Scale on quarter notes at 100bpm. Then I used the v-vocal pitch to midi on that. Useless. A few of the notes were right - none of them were "in time" - many had crazy pitch bends added to them even though the audio recording of the synth line I put in was with no modulation and a very basic monophonic sound. Seriously, I couldn't find a single phrase, no matter how strictly recorded, taht resembled itself when pitch to midi was done with it. I was really disappointed in a feature that I though held some promise for speeding up some basic stuff or just tryhing to quickly rouch in a melody by voice so I'd remember what I did. Sad.
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rick7653
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/19 14:20:23
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Should have known the feature was some half baked afterthought. My buddy has a little device for 80 bucks that he bought that follows pitch to the letter and converts it to midi. You would think a product like V-Vocal would at least to that much. Thanks for all the replies. Anybody know of any kind of plugin that does this? Preferably a free one. Cakewalk is becoming a money pit.
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/19 15:00:08
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I have defo seen a clip on this somewhere, I'll see if I can track it down.
If said guitar sample involves a soft synth can't you just play with a MIDI keyboard if you're already working it out?
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/19 16:01:57
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Blades
The results will depend on the quality of the track you're converting
Not based on my attempts to use it. In an effort to make sure I wasn't asking for too much of it to understand the pitches I sang, I recorded a dry sin wav C major Scale on quarter notes at 100bpm. Then I used the v-vocal pitch to midi on that.
Useless. A few of the notes were right - none of them were "in time" - many had crazy pitch bends added to them even though the audio recording of the synth line I put in was with no modulation and a very basic monophonic sound.
Seriously, I couldn't find a single phrase, no matter how strictly recorded, taht resembled itself when pitch to midi was done with it. I was really disappointed in a feature that I though held some promise for speeding up some basic stuff or just tryhing to quickly rouch in a melody by voice so I'd remember what I did.
Sad.
I tried something similiar with similar results, using perfectly tuned synth patches and simple melodic lines. Verdict: Not ready for prime time.
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/19 16:06:28
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rick7653
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Re:Anyone seen a video on how to use V-Vocal pitch to midi?
2010/02/19 16:10:46
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vinski
I have defo seen a clip on this somewhere, I'll see if I can track it down.
If said guitar sample involves a soft synth can't you just play with a MIDI keyboard if you're already working it out?
I can articulate a guitar bending and vibrato way better with my voice. Waaayyyy diferent than a keyboard. I can spot a keyboard guitar in seconds because of the quality of the bends and vibrato. They aare too clean and perfect.
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