Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch?

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2017/12/15 21:24:27 (permalink)

Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch?

I realize it's kind of pointless to be bringing up bugs at this point, but I'm curious as to whether anyone can explain to me what's going on here.....
 

 
This is typical of the kind of weirdness that seems to accumulate in my Sonar projects the longer I work on them. 

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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/16 02:01:29 (permalink)
    I've seen similar weird ones in the past. They went away after I updated the graphics card drivers.
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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/16 03:33:20 (permalink)
    Damn, I just recently updated mine, lol. 

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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/16 03:37:54 (permalink)
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    Damn, I just recently updated mine, lol. 




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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/16 03:56:17 (permalink)
    Usualy video card related. Stuff like that always happens here.
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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/16 11:25:35 (permalink)
    Whenever something like this shows up, I seem to recall reading that people that experience it report that they are using an nVidia card and it's after a driver update.
    Are you using an nVidia card?

     


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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/16 18:17:22 (permalink)
    I've always had issues like this crop up in projects, regardless of which gfx driver I've had installed. In this case, I'm at a loss as to understand why a driver issue would draw a slow curve fade like this where none exists in the project. Sonar has always had a number of weird UI issues and I think we're too quick to blame graphics cards, especially given that I use a whole host of other software with UI's and none exhibit this kind of behavior. My card is a Radeon HD 7700 and it doesn't give me problems anywhere else. 

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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/16 18:25:21 (permalink)
    I feel the same way, James. I have had graphical issues with SONAR that I don't have with other software, even using common as dirt integrated Intel graphics.
     
    Thinking about it recently, I found myself wondering if the "theme-ing" in SONAR has anything to do with it, and if I might get different results with different themes.
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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/16 19:38:54 (permalink)
    Could be in some cases, however I've seen these weird graphical glitches in Sonar since way before the introduction of themes. 
     
    I believe one of the reasons why Sonar is so buggy is because its bugs are so random and hard to pin down. You often see weird stuff that you don't have a hope in hell of replicating to a recipe, and so there was never any chance of the Bakers getting to the bottom of it (unless the bug description gave them an "aha" moment which was immediately apparent, of course). 
     
    As an example, last night I was in the piano roll and had entered four quarter notes, one after the other. Later I went back to move the first note up in pitch, and when I clicked on it, all four quarter notes were combined into one long highlighted note. But when I dragged it up, it turned into a quarter note again. Classic Sonar "wuh?" moment, lol. 
     
    Another seemingly unfixable bug was with the track manager. I would sometimes spend ages tidying up a project by hiding all the stray tracks I didn't need, only to find those tracks become randomly unhidden when I loaded the project again. Saw this mentioned on the forums a few times as well. I also had the occasional MIDI track completely disappear from the project. I'd hide it, and go back to it later to find that it wasn't there at all. Had a couple of people tell me the same thing had happened to them, too. There were a ton of problems in the console as well - I sometimes had tracks completely missing from the console view with no way to get them to reappear, even though I had that track type selected in the console view settings. 
     
    It depresses me that these infuriating, workflow killing bugs will never be fixed now. 

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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/16 20:11:26 (permalink)
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    It depresses me that these infuriating, workflow killing bugs will never be fixed now. 




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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/16 23:48:49 (permalink)
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    ...I believe one of the reasons why Sonar is so buggy is because its bugs are so random and hard to pin down. You often see weird stuff that you don't have a hope in hell of replicating to a recipe, and so there was never any chance of the Bakers getting to the bottom of it (unless the bug description gave them an "aha" moment which was immediately apparent, of course). 
     
    As an example, last night I was in the piano roll and had entered four quarter notes, one after the other. Later I went back to move the first note up in pitch, and when I clicked on it, all four quarter notes were combined into one long highlighted note. But when I dragged it up, it turned into a quarter note again. Classic Sonar "wuh?" moment, lol...
     
    ...It depresses me that these infuriating, workflow killing bugs will never be fixed now.

     
    Me too. I've had some weird quirky behaviour in Sonar that comes and goes. But when you post about it here in the forum, nobody else has seen the same thing. And, of course, I've never witnessed the same behaviour that you are describing either.

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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/17 00:12:12 (permalink)
    I most often have issues when docking/undocking, but it also occurred to me that people with dual monitors may not have the same issues as those who use SONAR on a single screen. I would imagine the features and views one uses plays a role, as well. For example, I was surprised to find out some people don't use the Console View.
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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/17 00:16:38 (permalink)
    Yeah, I'm actually quite new to sonar, even though I bought it a few years ago, I only really started really getting into it recently, so its hard when your learning the software, and you don't know whether its doing that thing because its a bug, or its just me not knowing what I'm doing

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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/17 00:38:28 (permalink)
    As others have noted, I've had many odd graphical anomalies over the years. 
    I've had one that involves horizontal lines that are remnants of the folder image that persists once you switch views to something else. It's been with me through 2 CPU/ MB changes, and 3 different graphic cards. Gave up trying to figure it out....so yes Sonar has some graphics gremlins that come with the territory. 

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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/17 01:08:12 (permalink)
    actually I did have a glitch, one day, when a dragged out a groove clip, there was no corners on the start or end of the loops to show where the start and the end was.......I thought it was me.......when I rebooted the computer, and opened the project back up, the groove clip was as it should be!!!

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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/17 01:19:03 (permalink)
    I think there was definitely something funky about the way Sonar's GUI was coded. For instance, pretty often I'll find that when I shut down Sonar, the playhead remains on the screen, floating above my desktop. It's something I don't generally see in other programs. 

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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/17 05:37:25 (permalink)
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    I think there was definitely something funky about the way Sonar's GUI was coded. For instance, pretty often I'll find that when I shut down Sonar, the playhead remains on the screen, floating above my desktop. It's something I don't generally see in other programs. 



     
    yep..I've seen that one too.

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    Re: Anyone seen this weird graphical glitch? 2017/12/17 13:29:35 (permalink)
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    sharke
    I think there was definitely something funky about the way Sonar's GUI was coded. For instance, pretty often I'll find that when I shut down Sonar, the playhead remains on the screen, floating above my desktop. It's something I don't generally see in other programs. 



     
    yep..I've seen that one too.




    prolly related to the 3rd party controls they use from http://www.codejock.com/ ?

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