Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) yet ?

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2011/01/07 22:07:52 (permalink)

Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) yet ?

Has anybody tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug ins yet in SONAR ?
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    jimkleban
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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/01/07 22:40:45 (permalink)
    Yup... pure MAGIC.

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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/01/07 22:48:41 (permalink)
    jkleban

    thanks for responding

    I am unclear from the UA website how the Studer A800 is to be used .

    Is is added to the Channels Effects Bin to impart the tape sound to a recorded track

    OR

    It is used as an Insert to color the sound from the input while recording ?

    How is it used exactly ?

    Seems a bit different than a normal plug -in



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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/01/07 22:50:59 (permalink)
    Will this plug in work with a UAD-2 Solo ?

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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/01/08 00:05:39 (permalink)
    Yes, running it here.

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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/01/08 00:24:57 (permalink)
    Question on using it

    I am unclear from the UA website how the Studer A800 is to be used .

    Is is added to the Channels Effects Bin to impart the tape sound to a recorded track

    OR

    It is used as an Insert to color the sound from the input while recording ?

    How is it used exactly ?

    Seems a bit different than a normal plug -in
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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/01/08 00:32:02 (permalink)
    mikespitzer


    Question on using it

    I am unclear from the UA website how the Studer A800 is to be used .

    Is is added to the Channels Effects Bin to impart the tape sound to a recorded track

    OR

    It is used as an Insert to color the sound from the input while recording ?

    How is it used exactly ?

    Seems a bit different than a normal plug -in


    They sent out an email on how best to audition it in your own projects a couple of newsletters ago.

    Basically yes use it in your individual track fx bin for a cumulative saturation effects.  Basically identical to how you'd use any saturation effect I'd suggest on a Solo card where instance counts are at a premium use it on a bus.

    This is a Software forum question rather than an X1 one though, no?

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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/01/08 00:49:41 (permalink)
    I think you can get about 5 or 6 instances on tracks with the solo. It's been awhile since my demo period ran out and I can't remember. You can apply those to the track if need be. Because of the cost I held off on buying it for now. It's expensive but it's really good.

    I put it on the master buss versus on tracks and it was fine.  The major difference when using it is that you will be taking a lot of compression and EQ off your mixes. It has that natural tape compression sound and it softens the highs and pumps the lows. Sounds like the real thing.

    The best part of using it was that you can get to a really nice mix in a much shorter time, less of the glue factor that you have to chase. I intend to get it in a few months when they offer a discount. I would say if there was ever an absolutely must have plug in, it would be the one.

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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/01/08 02:47:43 (permalink)
    Can you put the Studer A800 before the Pro Channel?

    Cheers,

    jayson
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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/01/08 03:26:04 (permalink)
    I've used it on the Master Bus. Really nice!!! Like putting icing on the cake!!! I'm running it on a Solo. MAY try inserting on each track and freeze......hmmm....

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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/01/08 08:53:27 (permalink)
    So, I have about 6 instances running in my project, mostly on summed busses (drums, guitars, vocals, keys, percussion, etc and then the MASTER buss).

    You don't use it while recording, rather during playback and it adds that analog warmth and saturation that only tape (and now this SIM) can do. To me, the effect is very subtle but magical.  It just takes that digital harshness edge off the mix and creates a nice smooth warmness.

    Don't expect anything drastic to the sound but like I said, it is magic.  The one really cool thing UAD did was allow a SYNC mode so that if you want to adjust some of the parameters of the plug, it will adjust them the same over your entire project... turn the input gain up on one instance, it moves up on all instances.  This "ganging" feature can be turned off and on at will.

    I think you can get 10 mono instances or 5 stereo instances on one UAD2 SOLO.  It isn't as DSP intensive as some of the other UAD2 plugs (think FATSO, MASSIVE).

    It's great... butI told myself I wasn't going to buy it until it went on sale. The price ($349) is steep for a UAD2 plug-in but when the DEMO period went away, my mixes lost the magic and the rest was history.. I was so ashamed of myself for my lack of self-control.

    Jim

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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/01/08 09:20:32 (permalink)
    jayson


    Can you put the Studer A800 before the Pro Channel?

    Cheers,

    jayson
    Actually, you can put it before or after - depends on you post/pre button on the pro-channel.  I suggest if you drop it in you bin to back off any eq and compression to hear the effect of the Studer.  By clicking the effects bin enable (on/off) you can switch easily.  Or, just dupe a track and have one with the Studer and one without.  It is a very sweet plug.   I love the effects from 15ips and tape formulation.  
     
    Good Luck

    Katherine  

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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/01/08 09:36:17 (permalink)
    You can get up to (10) mono or (6) stereo instances of the UAD Studer A800 @ 44.1k. In this screen capture of a recent project, I had (5) mono & (2) stereo instances along with (5) other UAD plug-ins with DSP to spare on a SOLO. No issues at all working in SONAR X1a.




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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/02/22 02:09:20 (permalink)
    Hi guys!  The Studer A800 plug is getting some real good reviews. 

    So how does the UAD Studer A800 compare to the Cakewalk FX2 tape sim ?
    Seems like a logical question since we all should have the Cakewalk FX2 tape sim...

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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2011/06/02 13:47:38 (permalink)
    Tape sim is grittier. It's better for getting a tape sound as an effect and sometimes I like it more on Kick, Snare, Toms, etc.

    The UAD Studer is like using real tape. It's transparent or ballsy depending on how you use it. I'd never put the Cakewalk Tape Sim on strings that I wanted to be transparent and clean, for instance. The Studer with 30 IPS is beautiful for this kind of work.

    I recently did a mix of a live performance for someone that had submitted numerous mixes to a mastering engineer over the years, and the ME told them my mix was the best sounding one they'd received from this client. Knowing the ME's history I know he grew up editing 2" tape. I used the Studer on every track and on the master buss for that mix, and I know that was a big part of the difference.

    BTW the first thing I did with the Studer was editing all the presets to turn off the Hiss. I figure if I want it I can turn it on for effect, I'd rather not forget to turn it off.

    The next thing I did was insert it on every track, choose my settings, and use the Apply FX function. There were enough tracks I had to do this in groups, but once done I didn't have to think about it anymore.

    Peace,

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    Re:Anyone tried the UAD-2 Solo D card and Studer 800 plug-in with Sonar X1 (or earlier) ye 2012/05/27 20:55:30 (permalink)
    Seriously- check out the mono version Billy Buck mentions. I have two UAD-2 Solo cards and using the mono plugins makes it feel like I just bought a third one since they are more efficient. 

    Just be careful to listen carefully and make sure to use the stereo versions on tracks or busses that are set to Stereo. Otherwise you get a weird stereo spread wet/dry delay effect that is undesirable unless done knowingly for that specific effect.

    Cheers,

    Tunes
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