martinv
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Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
I have been looking at Altiverb for the past ~2yrs and was waiting for it to become available for windows. Now it appears Ativerb 6 is available for Windows, but does anyone have it working in SONAR X3 + Windows?
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/03 05:10:00
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Altiverb 6 has been available for Windows for a long time. Altiverb 7 is not, even though the Mac version has been out for over two years. They keep saying they will have a Windows version at some point but I wouldn't take it too seriously. They won't even indicate a global release time, yet they keep updating the OSX version.
It's a shame but I think we should consider Altiverb a Mac only product. I personally use Waves IR-L, mainly because you get a nice large IR response library with it from Waves. Many people on here use a free Melda plugin, or Perfect Space/Pristine Space which was at one point included with Sonar. I guess with third party IRs, which I don't know much about. Waves IR-L is in many of their bundles by the way, and they're always having sales. I'm on a larger bundle now but I originally got it with Renaissance Maxx, a popular and not very expensive bundle (when it's on sale). Go through a site like Plugindiscounts.com for an even better price.
The IR library is a separate (voluntary) download after your purchase by the way.
Sorry to talk mostly about other reverbs!
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/03 08:50:48
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I just checked and Altiverb 7 was actually launched in January of 2010, so over FOUR YEARS ago, and while they did not specify a release date then, they said a Windows version would be forthcoming. I think that is false advertising, plain and simple. So I wouldn't bet on it ever becoming available for Windows, and if it does I'd be seriously worried about any kind of support when they move to the inevitable version 8. They plainly don't care, or they made some sort of evil deal with Apple right after they announced a Windows version.
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/03 12:48:21
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I know I keep coming back to this but you can actually get Waves Platinum collection for like 550 now through Plugindiscounts.com (cheaper than the basic Altiverb). That includes 40 plugs, some of them dated but many still good quality and some really unique ones.
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martinv
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/03 18:15:57
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I think I had my versions mixed up. I first looked into Altiverb when Sonar X1 was new. I must have been looking at Altiverb 7 at that time also.
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/04 02:48:52
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Makes sense. I like Altiverb, but I believe the consensus is most IR based reverb plugs sound nearly identical if you use the same IRs. Altiverb does have a very high quality library. Anyway, that's why I'm happy with Waves IR-L, as it comes with a 5GB library.
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/04 23:05:21
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Sanderxpander
Makes sense. I like Altiverb, but I believe the consensus is most IR based reverb plugs sound nearly identical if you use the same IRs. Altiverb does have a very high quality library. Anyway, that's why I'm happy with Waves IR-L, as it comes with a 5GB library.
If you purchased Alitverb and Waves, could you then import the Altiverb samples/library to Waves or is there some kind of compatibility issue? I'm using EastWest Quantum Leap Spaces now, but it seems lacking in quantity of samples.. Can't find a small-medium drum room sound I like.
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/04 23:33:04
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Both Altiverb and Waves use proprietary formats for their IR files so the files cannot be shared with other products.
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/05 03:26:19
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They do both load open third party IRs though. I think their proprietary format is just copy protection, basically. I've never done much with third party IRs but supposedly there are some really good ones out there. Maybe Scook "the Answer Machine" (tm) can make a good suggestion?
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/05 09:55:43
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Probably not. I do occasionally use MMultiBandConvolution. It comes with a very small set of IRs which I have augmented with collections from the net. Never purchased a commercial set though. Many IR download sites have come and gone. This page points to a few good free sets http://www.resoundsound.c...response-reverb-packs/
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/05 10:17:25
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At my friends place he uses Cubase and has Altverb. I have played around with it. It does have plenty of tweakability, it is easy to figure out.
An IR collection is readily available like as above true stereo high res IRs is what you want..
Any IR player can reproduce the IRs including Perfect Space.
If you figure out how to use Perfect Space it is nearly as good without the cost involved.
It is just Perfect Space requires some learning. It has plenty of control if you go deep.
You'd be surprised how good it is and at the end of the day you'd be hard pressed to use any more than 25% on a track or in a mix and more like 15-20% most of the time.
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/05 14:33:59
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Altiverb works great and is a beautiful sounding reverb
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Sanderxpander
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/05 15:17:47
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It is. I'm just pissed they show no real intention of developing/supporting for Windows, yet have taken money from people four years ago, promising that a version 7 was forthcoming.
I think the simplest affordable option with proven support is IR-L by Waves, which is what I did. I wish Audioease was serious about Windows support, or failing that, that they wouldn't charge an arm and a leg for their older Altiverb 6 so that I could take the lack of support a little easier.
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/05 16:25:43
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I've been looking into Liquidsonics Reverberate. It's a lot cheaper and is "true stereo". Reverberate Core is even cheaper and still "true stereo". They have a demo. http://www.liquidsonics.com/home.htm
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/05 17:20:05
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Oh also, Altiverb isn't available as 64 bit VST and doesn't work with Sonar's bit-bridge server. It needs some aggressive fiddling with jBridge (if you have that), as far as I've read. Just to underscore my point about support.
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/05 17:27:49
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clintmartin
I've been looking into Liquidsonics Reverberate. It's a lot cheaper and is "true stereo". Reverberate Core is even cheaper and still "true stereo". They have a demo.
http://www.liquidsonics.com/home.htm
I think the main thing is still you need a nice library of IRs. It doesn't seem to come with any. Not as a criticism of the product, but if you're looking to replace Altiverb, one of its strongest points is the library (perhaps even more than the actual plugin).
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/05 17:39:18
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Reverberate comes with 400mb of IRs and Core has 64mb. I don't have any idea how good they are. There are several online for free. Here is a Reverberate comparison chart. http://www.liquidsonics.com/software_reverberate_compare.htmI don't own this and I'm in no way saying it even compares to Altiverb. It's just a lower cost alternative.
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/05 17:43:38
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Oh cool, thanks, I totally missed that!
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/05 18:58:11
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Altiverb works fine and needs no fiddling. I have 32 bit Altiverb6 and works fine
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/05 19:58:27
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☄ Helpfulby Sanderxpander 2014/03/06 03:47:29
Yes, I have and love AV6.. as stated, there is NO AV7 for windows. Usually, I don't bash a company but sadly, ALTIVERB has promised or hinted that AV7 WIN x64 will be available soon (still waiting after more than 3 years).
So, AV6 under SONAR x64, somewhat works but causes CRASHES running on both bit bridges, so I have abandoned using it. I have replaced it with WAVES IR, not as many spaces but sounds OK... come to think of it, I don't use WAVES IR that much either anymore. My new SPACE reverb of choice is the UAD Ocean Way Studio plugin if I can't recreate any space with reverbs and delays (which I probably do more than use OWS plugin). I use a combination of EMT plate reverb and the old STUDER tape delay trick to create AIR and SPACE in a mix. For music, DIR DRUM MICS samples have ZERO air, so I mainly use OH or ROOM ambient mic samples and only use the DIR drum kit samples for the transient and placement in the sound stage (left, center, right).
I am glad I wrote this response, I longer am that mad at Altiverb, cause I probably have replaced the use of IRs with old school mixing techniques.
So, a little off topic but I hope I helped the OP. to stay away from Altiverb until they finally release a WIN x64 version (which may never happen).
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Re: Anyone using Altiverb 6, with SONAR X3 on Windows 64bit?
2014/03/06 03:47:23
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stxx
Altiverb works fine and needs no fiddling. I have 32 bit Altiverb6 and works fine
I'm glad it does for you but most people have problems/instability.
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