cliffr
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Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
Hi Folks, I see Play 4 is now available, just wondering if anyone has loaded it up and given it a test spin yet ?. If you have, please let us know how it pans out - I might pull the trigger on it tonight ... maybe :-) Cheers - Cliff
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/05 02:07:26
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I "upgraded" to Play 4, and a project I had been working on with East/West Stormdrum 2 went nutty. It froze up immediately upon opening. I uninstalled Play 4 and went back to Play 3, but that particular project still gave me occassional freezes until I committed the MIDI to audio and deleted Play from the session. To find out if I would have continued problems with my reinstalled Play 3, I started a new project, inserted both Stormdrum 2 and Hollywood Strings, and recorded some parts into MIDI. No trouble at all. They warn on the Play Software Update download page, "If you are in the middle of a project, it may be prudent to wait until the project is complete." I have writing projects in various stages of completion utilizing Play 3. I can't very well move ahead to Play 4 if it's going to mess with all of those projects. Unfortunately, East/West doesn't do it like Sonar, where you can keep old versions of the program on your computer. Once you go with Play 4, Play 3 goes bye-bye.
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/05 05:35:15
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There is a project I've been working on that I think I'm going to need to restart as I'm getting some strange bugs such as HW Brass and making my French Horn patch go all wonky in one of the projects I'm working on. I've also been having a lot of crashes and I'm not sure if it has something to do with Play or Sonar. It's been getting very annoying.
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/05 06:14:06
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I am using Symphonic choirs wih Play 4 in Sonar X2. There is some serious issues with tempo change. When I do it, complete project start to sound weird and with wrong samples playing. I must restart Sonar and everything works OK. I downloaded Cubase 7 trial and try Play 4 within it. Everything works without one glitch. So my answer is that Sonar has some serious problems with VST. But this is not the first time I noticed this kind of problems, but I gived up some years ago to reporting, nobody listen in Cakewalk...
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/05 08:12:48
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So despite the warning given out by EWQL themselves, you insist that Sonar's to blame? Interesting logic.
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/05 09:16:10
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Bristol_Jonesey So despite the warning given out by EWQL themselves, you insist that Sonar's to blame? Interesting logic.
I'm not the poster, but I can understand his frustration. That being said, I've been around midi and computers too long to know there are too many variables involved and no way to be sure it's Sonar to blame. I'm only replying here for clarification: What warning from EWQL are you referring to? I don't see anything in this thread about any known issues.... (Okay, I read the wrong post, I get it... Yep, totally unreasonable to update in the middle of a project, then complain when there's a problem. Guys, you can complain after the project's done!  ).
post edited by JonD - 2013/09/05 09:23:48
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/05 10:09:20
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I bought my first EastWest product nearly two years ago and have never upgraded Play. It is working and I can't afford the risk after hearing all the complaints. (I use it for Hollywood Strings and Fab Four.)
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dcumpian
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/05 10:39:02
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I bought Ra and SD2 when Play 3 first came out. I had to shelve them for almost a year before they worked properly. I'd guess the same will likely have to happen with Play 4. Regards, Dan
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/05 11:45:52
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konradh I bought my first EastWest product nearly two years ago and have never upgraded Play. It is working and I can't afford the risk after hearing all the complaints. (I use it for Hollywood Strings and Fab Four.)
My thoughts exactly konradh. Play 3 is working 100% effectively here with EWQLSO Platinum and I'm not upsetting that for anything.
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/05 13:10:38
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Avoid Play 4 like the plague! I'm holding off until EW gets it sorted....the support section over on their forum is loaded with complaints (for nearly every DAW out there). Play 3 is worked flawless for me the past three years, and I don't have any reason to move to Play 4.....there aren't really any major advantages. I'm right in the middle of a film score, and the last thing I need is to find out nothing works. Like that old philosophy; if it works, don't change it!
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/05 13:46:13
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Works fine here in an old project and a new one. I'll be honest tho, if I had known that they didn't recommend it for projects started in Play 3 I absolutely would not have upgraded. Not worth the risk.
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cliffr
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/05 16:41:44
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Thanks for all the replies. I think I'll leave it alone for now. I'm not in the middle of any projects right now, but about to start something I don't really want to risk any fudging about with. Play 3 works pretty well here anyway Cheers - Cliff
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/05 17:50:19
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Definitely worth heading to the forum over there and reading. there is one bug that EastWest know about they are sorting out. one of the interesting things is that Play 4 resets defaults so that's been the majority of peoples problems. people are reporting major lag in loading samples and it's cause of the defaults. they change the settings and they get the 30% increase. It's not all EastWest's fault as many people are not reading the release notes, install notes etc. I have EWQLSO Platinum and Play 3 with Sonar X1d and it's problematic - crashes sonar a bunch and I shelved it to work on and with other libraries. Now that Play 4 is out I might upgrade and see if it works better but I need the time to invest in playing with it.
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dcumpian
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/06 10:20:29
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MachineClaw Definitely worth heading to the forum over there and reading. there is one bug that EastWest know about they are sorting out. one of the interesting things is that Play 4 resets defaults so that's been the majority of peoples problems. people are reporting major lag in loading samples and it's cause of the defaults. they change the settings and they get the 30% increase. It's not all EastWest's fault as many people are not reading the release notes, install notes etc. I have EWQLSO Platinum and Play 3 with Sonar X1d and it's problematic - crashes sonar a bunch and I shelved it to work on and with other libraries. Now that Play 4 is out I might upgrade and see if it works better but I need the time to invest in playing with it.
I have the same version as you (both EWQLSO Plat and X1d) and haven't had any issues yet (knock on wood). I am running 64bit with lots of RAM though, so the PC doesn't get that stressed. I wonder if the crashes are truly related to EWQLSO or some other plugin? Regards, Dan
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/06 11:16:09
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I only have 8gb ram and the samples for EWQLSO Platinum are on a fast regular hard drive. I'm X1d 64 bit with w7/64bit. I haven't gone back to look but I think I might be trying to use 32bit PLAY 3 in 64bit environment. Not sure, my installation was hosed and took ages to get it sorted enough to just run.
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/09/06 12:38:29
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I'm using play4 on windows 8 and the only issue I have is that the drop down boxes on the GUI usually disappear within a fraction of a second making it hard to change settings.
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/10/14 18:36:10
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Little over a month now, any advances? How's PLAY 4 with X3b? I am very happy using X3b for my audio rig. For my compositional system, Sonar X2a and PLAY 3 coexist so happily.
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Re: Anyone using EW-Play 4 with Sonar yet ?
2013/10/14 20:22:32
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Guess I'll hold off with Play 4 till one patch at least.
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