PTheory
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Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
with X2?
I am having massive latenecy problems and was looking for help
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tomixornot
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 03:59:20
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PTheory
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 08:38:57
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Yes I am using ASIO on a beat of a machine 6 core i7 64Gb Ram SSD program Drive Western Digital Black audio drives etc but the Audiobox is unusable for vocals not matter what setting I put it on and sample buffer I use etc.
Either I am being really stupid or the box is horrid.
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 08:47:36
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I use a 44 vsl and it works great. Very low latency for me. I would check the Presonus forums and make sure you have the latest drivers.
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 09:26:32
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I run an Audio Box 1818 VSL with no problems.
My interface settings are:
1 Run at Startup is checked
2. ASIO Sample Rate is 44.1 khz
3. ASIO Buffer size is 256
In X2, I specify ASIO mode, and use the Audiobox 1818VSL ins and outs.
PTheory, I will momentarily send you a private message with my email and cell, so that you can call me at your convenience today. I know it's turkey day here, but I have no problem walking you through things so please feel free to call.
Bob Bone
Wisdom is a giant accumulation of "DOH!" Sonar: Platinum (x64), X3 (x64) Audio Interfaces: AudioBox 1818VSL, Steinberg UR-22 Computers: 1) i7-2600 k, 32 GB RAM, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 & 2) AMD A-10 7850 32 GB RAM Windows 10 Pro x64 Soft Synths: NI Komplete 8 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, many others MIDI Controllers: M-Audio Axiom Pro 61, Keystation 88es Settings: 24-Bit, Sample Rate 48k, ASIO Buffer Size 128, Total Round Trip Latency 9.7 ms
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 09:34:47
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tomixornot
Hopefully someone will chime in soon. I'm interested in this interface as well.
Here is a similar tread on latency issue (are you using ASIO ?):
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2613534
Tomoxornot - When I am finished helping PTheory I would be happy to go over the Audiobox VSL 1818 with you as well. Bob Bone
Wisdom is a giant accumulation of "DOH!" Sonar: Platinum (x64), X3 (x64) Audio Interfaces: AudioBox 1818VSL, Steinberg UR-22 Computers: 1) i7-2600 k, 32 GB RAM, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 & 2) AMD A-10 7850 32 GB RAM Windows 10 Pro x64 Soft Synths: NI Komplete 8 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, many others MIDI Controllers: M-Audio Axiom Pro 61, Keystation 88es Settings: 24-Bit, Sample Rate 48k, ASIO Buffer Size 128, Total Round Trip Latency 9.7 ms
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tomixornot
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 11:03:29
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Hi Bob, thanks! But I have no issue, at least not yet. I have not own the unit yet. I'm planning to get one in the near future.
I was just referring another thread about related issues to the OP.
Thanks again!
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 13:11:41
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I too am running one with no problems. I've been very impressed with it's latency. Especially with the well-rounded set of digital fx that can be used in monitor/record situations.
I'm running at 48k
ASIO buffer set to 256
Always power up after the pc finishes booting up as Robert mentions...
Nice piece of gear... Tho I do wish their' compressor was that of the 16x4x2 instead of the 16x0x2 <sigh>... I miss the soft knee compressor stage...
Keni
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PTheory
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 15:49:18
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Thanks Robert
I'm also running at 44.1k 24Bit with 256 Asio sample buffer but the latency is horrid. Maybe I am used to better things? I came from a RME PCI (not PCIe) fireface that was killer and never gave me any latency issues at all. I was always dubious about the speeds of USB and feared latency issues and my experience 3 months later of the 1818VSL has done nothing to quash my fears and only add to my frustration. Just about the only thing I haven't replaced is the graphics card but I can't see why that would be the root cause of latency issues
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PTheory
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 15:52:03
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And I am on the latest presonus drivers
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Keni
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 15:58:05
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Hi PT...
I too was very nervous switching to this... I've been running Soundscape (SSL now) Mixtreme's for decades now with excellent latency minimums... but they too were PCI and not PCIe so I had to change (not made anymore) or buy a PCI expansion chassis etc.... and deal with a company no longer making drivers for old gear.
Depending on the project I'm working on, I can run easily down at 1.3ms where my old Mixtreme only got to 1.8ms...
I might be wrong, but I think these are all reasonable latencies for current tech, are they not? I believe there must be another issue or two causing this... I'm not sure what to recommend... yet...
Keni
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PTheory
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 16:02:28
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Thanks Keni
I can't think of anything either I have tried everything I know but it is bugging me silly
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 19:14:48
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Is this the first audio adapter you use ? Is your system checked/tuned ? You can try this http://www.thesycon.de/eng/latency_check.shtml If your system is not tuned yet, disabling the wireless network adapter makes a big difference. Other tuning may collectively adds to some more improvement.
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 19:16:35
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Oh..I just read you had used RME before..
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PTheory
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/22 22:05:18
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Thanks the system is tuned via the sweetwater guide
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/23 00:51:11
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Click the PDC button (it turns blue) and see if that helps. With complex projects, the delay compensation can be enough that if you're monitoring yourself through Sonar, you'll hear an audible and horribly annoying delay. When you bypass PDC, you should hear yourself with no latency issues. The only complication is you have to re-enable it (gray) during playback. I've only had to do this with projects where I'm doing something like a guitar overdub through an amp sim and there are tons of effects done on an object-oriented basis, as well as lots of other plug-ins. I reviewed the 1818VSL with Sonar and it worked like a champ. Make sure that you have all the VSL control panel settings and such correct. IIRC when using it with a 16.0.2, it defaulted to something like 2048 samples and I had to set it properly. I'm sorry I can't be more detailed, but the system went back to PreSonus after the review was done. It's probably a situation where you'll change one parameter, say "doh!", and carry on recording 
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/24 15:42:45
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Thanks Craig I hope it is that simple
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Re:Anyone using a presonus 1818vsl?
2012/11/24 18:41:47
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Doesn't the 'vsl' models have a built-in mixer? You could try record monitoring off the box directly, and I believe it has some effects you could place on the monitor as well. No?
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