Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sonar?

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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/12 21:41:23 (permalink)
Geo524 - Are you able to use the 1.9b10/3.2.2 drivers and work in Sonar?  I couldn't get it to work at all.  I noticed you're using an AMD processor.  I'm using an Intel i7.  I wonder if the chipset I have is an issue.
 
Riojazz - I noticed you're using an i7.  What motherboard are you using?
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/12 22:59:34 (permalink)
I now have the 1.9b10/3.2.2 set working with Sonar, but I'm not sure what I did.  However, I have to use twice the buffer size than I did with the 1.8/2.5.1 set to play back the same project without pops or clicks.
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/12 23:24:25 (permalink)
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Geo524 - Are you able to use the 1.9b10/3.2.2 drivers and work in Sonar?  I couldn't get it to work at all.  I noticed you're using an AMD processor.  I'm using an Intel i7.  I wonder if the chipset I have is an issue.
 

 
Hi Aspenleaf. Yes. Everything is working. Just a little more CPU intensive than when I had the 1.8 drivers. Glad you were able to get the beta drivers working. I would seriously contact Focusrite and hound them about releasing an official win 10 driver for the 18i20. Power in numbers. The tech I am in touch with is sympathetic to the frustration this is causing and said he is going to foward my emails to the developmental team. It's a shame cause the 18i20 is really a fine interface.
 

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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/12 23:31:57 (permalink)
I will continue to work with the Focusrite tech and hopefully they can work this out.  When I first ran into issues with Windows 10 I reinstalled the backup I made of Windows 7 and reinstalled Windows 10 as a dual boot, so I can keep working in Windows 7 until Focusrite could work this out.
 
I agree that the 18i20 is a fine interface.  I have no plans to replace it, but I think Windows 10 isn't ready for prime time.  I'm having a slew of other issues on my laptop getting it to work with my printers and scanners, so I had to roll back to Windows 8.1 on that machine.
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/13 00:18:47 (permalink)
Good idea to install Win 10 as a dual boot. I'm not having any major issues with the beta drivers so I can wait as well. 
 
Now I'm wondering if I should install our new printer? All the computers in our household are running Windows 10.

Win 10 x 64; CbB; SPlat; MixCraft 8 Pro; AMD FX4130, 3.8 GHz; DDR3 32 GB Ram; Focusrite Scarlett 18i20; SSD 1TB, 2 x 1TB and 1 x 640 GB HDD; Mackie HR624 Monitors, KRK G2 Rockit 5's, Dual HP S2331 23" Monitors
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/13 10:35:10 (permalink)
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Riojazz - I noticed you're using an i7.  What motherboard are you using?

In case it helps, this is what I have in my home-built rig:
 
CPU:    Core i7-4790K
Motherboard:    Gigabyte Z97X-SOC-CF Socket 0
Nothing overclocked

Software: Cakewalk by Bandlab; Adobe Audition; Band-in-A-Box audiophile; Izotope Ozone; Encore; Melodyne; Win 10 Pro, 64-bit.

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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/13 20:10:59 (permalink)
I had some issues when I first upgraded to Windows 10.  I sent an email to Focusrite and a couple of days later they sent me a link to a different (beta at the time) version of MixControl.  It fixed my issues and has worked fine since.

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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/13 20:37:53 (permalink)
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I had some issues when I first upgraded to Windows 10.  I sent an email to Focusrite and a couple of days later they sent me a link to a different (beta at the time) version of MixControl.  It fixed my issues and has worked fine since.


Are you running 1.9b10/3.2.2? 

Win 10 x 64; CbB; SPlat; MixCraft 8 Pro; AMD FX4130, 3.8 GHz; DDR3 32 GB Ram; Focusrite Scarlett 18i20; SSD 1TB, 2 x 1TB and 1 x 640 GB HDD; Mackie HR624 Monitors, KRK G2 Rockit 5's, Dual HP S2331 23" Monitors
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/13 20:55:33 (permalink)
Have any of you run the Latency Monitor that Focusrite techs ask you to run?  I'm getting very strange results.  It says my computer isn't capable of playing audio, and it shows my i7 3.4 Ghz cpu as running at 2.2 Ghz, even though I have disabled the cpu speed controls in the BIOS and in Power Options I have set the cpu min and max to 100%.  CPU-Z shows the cpu as 3.4 Ghz.  I've disabled my wi-fi card and the onboard audio, turned off Windows sounds and all of the other tweaks that are recommended.  The tech told me to update the USB drivers, but the only available drivers for the motherboard are the chipset drivers, and I've already done that.  The USB 2 drivers shown in device manager are Microsoft drivers from 2006.  When I have device manager check for updated drivers, it says the best drivers are already installed.  Any advice?
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/13 21:24:54 (permalink)
Did you run latency monitor with Sonar running? I ran it with and without Sonar running. Without everything was good but with Sonar running I got the message my computer isn't capable of playing audio? The tech told me to update my BIOS but the company that built my computer highly advised against updating the BIOS. Better safe than sorry I'm just living with increase in my CPU usage. It's not a show stopper so at this point I'll just wait for Windows 10 and Focusrite to catch up with one another.

Win 10 x 64; CbB; SPlat; MixCraft 8 Pro; AMD FX4130, 3.8 GHz; DDR3 32 GB Ram; Focusrite Scarlett 18i20; SSD 1TB, 2 x 1TB and 1 x 640 GB HDD; Mackie HR624 Monitors, KRK G2 Rockit 5's, Dual HP S2331 23" Monitors
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/13 21:58:12 (permalink)
Yes, I ran it with Sonar running the most complex project I'm working on, per the tech's request.  This file runs fine on Windows 7 with the 1.8/2.5.1 set at 3.0ms buffer.  I can get it to run without pops and clicks on Windows 10 with the 1.9b10/3.2.1 or 3.2.2 set, but I have to set the buffer to 1024 which results in a 10.8ms buffer.  I should probably reinstall the 1.8/2.51 set in Windows 10 and check Latency Monitor with that.
 
When running Latency Monitor without Sonar running, it says there are no problems.
 
I'm using most recent BIOS update that is available for my motherboard.
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/13 23:13:41 (permalink)
Let me know how you make out with the 1.8/2.51 set if you do the reinstall. Thanks.

Win 10 x 64; CbB; SPlat; MixCraft 8 Pro; AMD FX4130, 3.8 GHz; DDR3 32 GB Ram; Focusrite Scarlett 18i20; SSD 1TB, 2 x 1TB and 1 x 640 GB HDD; Mackie HR624 Monitors, KRK G2 Rockit 5's, Dual HP S2331 23" Monitors
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/14 00:26:49 (permalink)
I just received instructions to delete the Scarlett 18i20 from Device Manager, uninstall Scarlett MixControl, and install a file they sent me, 1.9b10.  Everything seems to be working correctly.
 
Help, About now shows this:
Scarlett MixControl 1.9.64.10
Driver 3.2.285 API 3.0
Firmware version 634.
 
I was never instructed to run Latency Monitor, but I'll give it a try now.
 

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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/14 00:30:12 (permalink)
Latency Monitor seems to be higher than I remember it.  Once I started SONAR with a project, it shot into the red.  Again, I don't remember things being bad before.
 

Software: Cakewalk by Bandlab; Adobe Audition; Band-in-A-Box audiophile; Izotope Ozone; Encore; Melodyne; Win 10 Pro, 64-bit.

Hardware: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 2nd; Roland Integra-7; TCE Finalizer; Presonus Central Station, Behringer X-Touch.  Home built i7 with 16 GB RAM, SSDs.
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/14 01:00:19 (permalink)
I reinstalled the 1.8/2.5.1 set and was able to play the same Sonar project, but this time was able to get the buffer down to 3ms.  This is the same size buffer I used on Windows 7 with the same driver set.  Latency Monitor now said my system was suitable for audio...  Unfortunately, these are the drivers that became unstable for me on Windows 10 and prompted the need to try the beta drivers.  I'm going to do some testing to see if the other changes I made to my system made it more reliable.
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/14 05:44:04 (permalink)
When I open mine up is says 1.9.64.10.

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Tracy
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/14 06:45:26 (permalink)
riojazz
Latency Monitor seems to be higher than I remember it.  Once I started SONAR with a project, it shot into the red.  Again, I don't remember things being bad before.
 


Same results here riojazz.

Win 10 x 64; CbB; SPlat; MixCraft 8 Pro; AMD FX4130, 3.8 GHz; DDR3 32 GB Ram; Focusrite Scarlett 18i20; SSD 1TB, 2 x 1TB and 1 x 640 GB HDD; Mackie HR624 Monitors, KRK G2 Rockit 5's, Dual HP S2331 23" Monitors
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/16 18:00:29 (permalink)
I think I'm getting closer to a stable setup with the 1.8/2.5.1 set.  I went through the Black Viper Windows 10 services setup and it made a big difference.  I can use lower latency settings and everything is running smoother.  I think Windows 10 is loaded with things running in the background that can use resources that are needed for Sonar.
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/17 11:40:32 (permalink)
Good news. The latency settings and how you select them is what I liked best about the 1.8 Mix Control. Have you noticed, are you using less CPU as well? 

Win 10 x 64; CbB; SPlat; MixCraft 8 Pro; AMD FX4130, 3.8 GHz; DDR3 32 GB Ram; Focusrite Scarlett 18i20; SSD 1TB, 2 x 1TB and 1 x 640 GB HDD; Mackie HR624 Monitors, KRK G2 Rockit 5's, Dual HP S2331 23" Monitors
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Re: Anyone using the Focusrite beta version 1.9b12 of Mix Control with Windows 10 and Sona 2016/04/17 15:31:52 (permalink)
Yes, I'd say it uses a bit less cpu with the 1.8/2.5.1 set. 
 
What made the biggest difference for me was disabling unnecessary services, then solving the hard page faults I was getting.  The majority of those were caused by a Logitech Mouse software called Setpoint.  It was starting with Windows and running in the background.  Once I disabled it at startup, my page faults were greatly reduced, but there were still some.  The remaining ones stopped when I turned off Windows Defender.
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