eph221
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Anything's possible!
truthy or liey?
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/30 14:33:29
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Well, I doubt that if my arm were chopped off I'd ever grow another one.
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/30 16:29:06
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bapu Well, I doubt that if my arm were chopped off I'd ever grow another one.
That's actually not exactly true. We DO have the ability to regrow things, but have been saturated with the idea that we can't. I have some first-hand experience with some of this when I was working on my PhD (including regrowing two of my own disintegrated vertebrae - the doctor who recommended I have the fusion operation said afterwards "That's impossible!" - I actually ended up an inch taller than I'd ever been as well - I used NLP techniques and "reframing" as in "My disks are regenerating" but it wasn't quick! Took about 3.5 years). From what I've seen, anything IS possible. (In fact, I'm about to regrow a post that was previously deleted just to prove this! )
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eph221
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/30 20:30:52
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Craig must be a shape shifter!
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/30 20:43:32
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if you really believe and want it, that arm would grow back on surely but some people would probably get only 1 finger with that new hand.
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/30 21:30:48
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/30 23:29:35
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bitman is correct. It's the condition of the possibility of..your choice. But, you have to start from that POV. I certainly do. It's a little different than mere optimism. It's the condition of the possibility that...one doesn't know everything. Our ego's make us want to think empiricism explains everything. Once one is content and comfortable with the ambiguity of being *without complete knowledge* more possibilities unlock themselves. That's the gordian knot that gets untied.
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DrLumen
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 00:00:50
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/10/31 00:03:05
Truth. Possible does not equate to probable. It's possible your arm would grow back but not probable.
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 01:14:00
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/10/31 09:23:20
DrLumen Truth. Possible does not equate to probable. It's possible your arm would grow back but not probable.
But more probable than intelligent comments in the FSF.
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 09:05:13
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☼ Best Answerby eph221 2016/10/31 14:20:35
There was a lot of disappointment that first time that I met Reality. "That's not possible..." eventually gave way to, "Let's pretend this never happened." To this day, Reality still doesn't like to admit that I exist.
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 12:12:19
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Some things are logically impossible. Other things are impossible in a given context. Some things are known to be impossible, as opposed the somewhat common mistake that if one can't imagine how to do it it must therefore be impossible. But not knowing that some things are indeed impossible and therefore assuming that anything is possible is also a mistake.
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eph221
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 14:21:51
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It's interesting that you think *logic* isn't a context as well. But not knowing that some things are indeed impossible and therefore assuming that anything is possible is also a mistake. And you have this knowledge, how?
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bapu
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 14:40:37
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 14:41:38
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Nothing's pausable without a pause button.
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drewfx1
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 14:46:47
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eph221 It's interesting that you think *logic* isn't a context as well. But not knowing that some things are indeed impossible and therefore assuming that anything is possible is also a mistake. And you have this knowledge, how?
I could try to explain, but I know it would be impossible to explain to some people...
 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 14:53:43
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DrLumen
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 15:01:02
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It does depend on logic, context and our current realm of knowledge. At one point in our understanding of the universe, it was impossible for 2 things to occupy the same space. Then, it was qualified as impossible to occupy the same space/time. Now, it is 'impossible' to occupy the same space/time/dimension. What will the next 'impossibility' be? I would still submit that anything is possible. I guess it's a glass half full thing...
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drewfx1
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 15:17:28
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DrLumen It does depend on logic, context and our current realm of knowledge. At one point in our understanding of the universe, it was impossible for 2 things to occupy the same space. Then, it was qualified as impossible to occupy the same space/time. Now, it is 'impossible' to occupy the same space/time/dimension. What will the next 'impossibility' be? I would still submit that anything is possible. I guess it's a glass half full thing...
No. The fact that some things once thought to be impossible (though perhaps in a different context) were reclassified does not imply in any way that anything is possible. That's invalid reasoning in the technical sense of the word - the conclusion simply does not follow from the premises. The best you can argue is that some things thought to be impossible might in fact be possible, not that they are.
 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 16:19:22
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DrLumen I would still submit that anything is possible.
It's not. Honestly, I tried it.
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DrLumen
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 16:20:45
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drewfx1
DrLumen It does depend on logic, context and our current realm of knowledge. At one point in our understanding of the universe, it was impossible for 2 things to occupy the same space. Then, it was qualified as impossible to occupy the same space/time. Now, it is 'impossible' to occupy the same space/time/dimension. What will the next 'impossibility' be? I would still submit that anything is possible. I guess it's a glass half full thing...
No. The fact that some things once thought to be impossible (though perhaps in a different context) were reclassified does not imply in any way that anything is possible. That's invalid reasoning in the technical sense of the word - the conclusion simply does not follow from the premises. The best you can argue is that some things thought to be impossible might in fact be possible, not that they are.
We are not going to get anywhere here. I know what your saying in that somewhere out there is an immutable impossibility. However, to perceive whatever you posit as 'proof' of impossibility would be rooted in our current or future realm of knowledge. With that said, there is no immutable proof - perhaps that is the impossibility. :) Either way, there will always be doubt hence possibility. Unless you have some extra-terrestrial intelligence we are not privy to... but, even then, same problem just different context. Some believe that the universe was created by a supreme entity or it is an atom in the thumbnail of a giant. A seemingly immutable impossibility but, technically since they can't be dis-proven, both are possible.
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bapu
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 16:30:21
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DrLumen I would still submit that anything is possible.
It's not. Honestly, I tried it.
So that was you? You should have marked the video with the "Kids, DO NOT try this at home" warning.
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drewfx1
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 16:47:02
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DrLumen Some believe that the universe was created by a supreme entity or it is an atom in the thumbnail of a giant. A seemingly immutable impossibility but, technically since they can't be dis-proven, both are possible.
No. You are still confusing not knowing whether something is impossible with that something being possible. Being unable to disprove something does not imply that it is true. For example, there are many things in mathematics that are proven to be mathematically impossible. But they were still mathematically impossible even before the mathematical proofs were formally produced.
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 17:24:23
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/10/31 18:10:34
Whether the cat is alive or dead, I don't want to be the one opening the box. I'm just sayin'...
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bapu
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 18:11:39
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I have proved that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get any tracks when I want them. Impossible dang collaborators.
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bapu
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 18:18:29
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Is it possible that what we think of as impossible is just oh look squirrel......
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/10/31 18:42:28
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The Hole in the Zero.... M. K. Joseph
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Re: Anything's possible!
2016/11/01 01:40:41
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She blinded me with science!
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