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2018/04/02 09:59:34 (permalink)

Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any?

Aside from the Roland Integra 7, I'm not aware of anything that has great electric guitar emulation.
 
I'd love to hear from you guys if you can provide some suggestions.
 
 
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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/02 10:11:36 (permalink)
Air guitar is my favourite. No matter what musical style it always sounds spot on.
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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/02 10:30:01 (permalink)
Of course this is very subjective....  you're going to get many different answers here..

Some of the Applied acoustic Systems VSTis (Strum-GS-2 and String-VS2) sound alright to me.  Though with these you do have to spend the time getting the parameters right.  They may not sound right out of the box.  You really have to tweak them the patches.  Also, it does depend of your keyboard skills and style to get them sounding right.

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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/02 10:32:24 (permalink)
I've had some luck with ASS Strum after some trial and error and not using the built in Amp Modelling.  

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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/02 10:50:31 (permalink)
Checkout Orange Tree Samples they have a large range of acoustic and electric guitar libraries for use in the free Kontakt player. 
 
I would say that for general use the Rock Standard or Stratosphere are probably the best (Les Paul, and Strat respectively) Strawberry is also a good all-rounder but they are all different and good. They all have a good range of articulations and setting up the velocity switching is easy.
 
Apart form the "lead" sounds The strum sequencer is intuitive and quite versatile.
 
They are sampled clean and use Kontakt's effect and amp sims for maximum versatility. You can also bypass the effects and use your favourite amp sim(s). Multi-track mode allows for up to 4 discrete outputs if you want to get adventurous.
 
 
 

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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/02 10:55:36 (permalink)
NI Session Guitarist Electric Sunburst is worth a look...
 
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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/02 11:22:32 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2018/04/03 06:49:59
Personally I find AAS Strum Session too fake sounding, unless it's very hidden in the mix.
 
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Checkout Orange Tree Samples they have a large range of acoustic and electric guitar libraries for use in the free Kontakt player. 
 
I would say that for general use the Rock Standard or Stratosphere are probably the best (Les Paul, and Strat respectively) Strawberry is also a good all-rounder but they are all different and good. They all have a good range of articulations and setting up the velocity switching is easy.
 
Apart form the "lead" sounds The strum sequencer is intuitive and quite versatile.
 
They are sampled clean and use Kontakt's effect and amp sims for maximum versatility. You can also bypass the effects and use your favourite amp sim(s). Multi-track mode allows for up to 4 discrete outputs if you want to get adventurous.



A good choice - for Electric guitars also check out:
 
Shreddage 2 by Impact Soundworks
Electri6ity by Vir2
RealStrat / RealLP by MusicLab
Amplesound guitar series
Native Instruments Session Guitarist Electric Sunburst
 
Orange Tree as mentioned by Glyn are probably the best, but also very pricy. Personally I went for Shreddage 2 as it was the best bang for buck at the time (I got all 3 models in a bundle for $99).
 
Amplesound's range is great for acoustics, and also IMO the easiest to play.
 
A word of caution though:
1. Most of these require the full version of Kontakt
2. Although these emulations sound fantastic, covering every technique you could imagine, the learning curve is huge. Unless you're a wiz in the piano roll editor, it'll take you ages to get the results in their demos. In most cases I've resorted to practicing on an actual guitar and playing it myself... cos it's quicker!
3. The in-built effects while adequate aren't that great. You'll probably want some other guitar rack suck as GuitarRig5/Amplitube/Revalver/Overloud. This is down to taste - I tried them all and I tend to go for Overloud, which I upgraded from the CW verson to the full version.
 
For more immediate results (if somewhat more limiting) also look at the VirtualGuitarist series by uJAM. This I do use regularly as it's so easy to get a great sound right away if I just want strumming or basic power-chord riffs.
 
Like I said, the learning curve for most is huge - not that they're hard to use, just hard to get good results without lots of editing and tweaking. I guess this gets quicker with practice.
 
What I personally do for stuff I can't play (like crazy fast sweep picked scales), is use a combination of Revalver's pickup modeller and Overloud and:
  • Model my own guitar with Revalver
  • Model Shreddage 2 with Revalver
  • Play most of my parts using a real guitar
  • The bits I find impossible to play, do with Shreddage
  • Run both the modelled guitars into a bus, with Overloud on the bus... they sound like the same guitar
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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/02 13:23:36 (permalink)
I am a huge fan of Shreddage.  I have both 1 and 2.  I use 1 for the crunchy rhythms (1 isn't made for leads) and I use 2 for leads.  I'm not a fan of 2 for the rhythm, though it does work for that...I find 1 easier to use for it.   

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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/02 14:34:49 (permalink)
I use Vir2 Electri6ty but the trick to making it sound more guitar like for leads is putting it through a good guitar amp/cab sim plugin instead of its built in guitar amp fx which I personally think makes Electri6ity sound weak.
I use Kazrog thermionik amp sims, there are round 30 odd amp sims of different tube amps and I use two note wall of sound for the amp cabinet sims. I should add I'm also a guitar player as well as keyboardist but for the nice guitar like keyboard soloing I use Electri6ity although I also think Orange Tree Evolution Infinity is probably better has you can trigger harmonics and feedback which will add a bit more expressive realism to a keyboard solo. If I could have gotten those tones back in the day, I probably wouldn't have taken up guitar.
 
I've done a little demo of Vir2 Electri6ity lead playing here:
 

 
 
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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/02 19:11:39 (permalink)
For acoustic guitar, I believe AmpleSound is better for their strumming and chord technology.  I have their Martin and Taylor models as well as their Taylor 12 string.
 
For electric, I have AmpleSound's Les Paul, Stratocaster and Telecaster.  I also have Music Lab's Les Paul and Rickenbacker 6&12 string models and also their 8 string model.  MusicLab's guitars have a great set of articulations, such as unison bend, feedback, etc.  The feedback is amazing and sounds very realistic.
 
For bass, I used to use Trilian, but now I use IK Multimedia's MODO Bass.  It uses no samples and is physically modeled.
 
I use Amplitube 4 for amplification for the electric guitar plugins and for my real electric guitars as well when I'm not mic'ing my Orange Crush RT-30.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/02 19:51:31 (permalink)
That is akin to asking "Are there an great guitar amps out there?".
 
My answer for both questions? "Only about 3 or 4 dozen to choose from.".
 
Anyway, look above this post for all that I would have mentioned.

 

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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/02 20:15:11 (permalink)

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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/03 04:05:33 (permalink)

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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/03 07:03:00 (permalink)
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Amplesound's range is great for acoustics, and also IMO the easiest to play.
 
A word of caution though:
1. Most of these require the full version of Kontakt
2. Although these emulations sound fantastic, covering every technique you could imagine, the learning curve is huge. Unless you're a wiz in the piano roll editor, it'll take you ages to get the results in their demos. In most cases I've resorted to practicing on an actual guitar and playing it myself... cos it's quicker!
3. The in-built effects while adequate aren't that great. You'll probably want some other guitar rack suck as GuitarRig5/Amplitube/Revalver/Overloud. This is down to taste - I tried them all and I tend to go for Overloud, which I upgraded from the CW verson to the full version.




The cautions in this posts are worth repeating. The only VSTi I have purchased is Heavier7Strings which was more to get the 7th string without another guitar. That has a standalone version that plays nicely through WindowsAudio without issues (no Kontakt needed, or ASIO). Downside is #2 above, since their demos are done with Cubase, which has slicker access into the keyswitches required to play it realistically; but again, you will need some savvy in the PRV to access the full capabilities.
 
Recently I have also been trying AmpleSound's free acoustic (AGML2), and that also falls into the same bucket functionally.
 
I am not a Kontakt fan, so cannot speak to those requiring the "full version of Kontakt," but that is something to take into consideration with your choices. As I have been doing scoring more lately with Notion 6, I have taken to both H7S and AGML2 since they are fairly lightweight as VSTi inserts, but Notion does not have good access into the keyswitching required to play them realistically.
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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/03 09:25:37 (permalink)
I really appreciate all these answers, people.  I had no idea there were so many to choose from!  
 
I'm not intending to buy NI, so I'll consider the other options.  
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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/03 14:05:03 (permalink)
If you're not needing any special articulations (e.g. pick squeals, false harmonics, slides, hammer-ons/pull-offs etc), the Rapture guitar samples that came with the Cakewalk 30th anniversary are very usable when put through Overloud.
 
Also look at adding the "Bridge Hum to SC" FX chain from the "30th Anniversary Anderton Collection" (put before Overloud) to get a more strat-type sound.
 
Worth taking a look, as it'll not cost you anything.
 
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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/03 20:32:27 (permalink)
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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/03 20:50:34 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Toddskins 2018/04/03 21:52:57
I have more than a dozen electric guitar libraries. Why so many? Because the guitar is a versatile and expressive instrument, and sampling one only provides a snapshot of what any particular instrument is capable of. So you end up with a bunch of them, each one specializing in a subset of the guitar universe.
 
These are the ones I use most...
 
#1 on my list is Orange Tree Samples' Strawberry. Not because it's necessarily the best, but rather because it happens to suit what I do the best. If you're into chugging metal rhythm guitar, Electri6ity might be a better choice. The OTS Strat is also very good for expressive leads, but I keep coming back to the Strawberry.
 
#2 in my toolkit would be Indiginus' Renegade. Not as versatile as the OTS libraries, but much less expensive and simple to use because it has a great sound right out of the box. Also look at Indiginus' Torch, a similar-sounding instrument.
 
#3 isn't even an electric guitar, but rather an acoustic. However, I normally run it through an amp sim and use it as if it was an electric guitar. That's Indiginus' Delta Blues Slide Guitar. Very expressive for leads.
 
#4 is the OTS Rickenbacker 12-string. Sounds like the real deal. Great for classic rock, which is my preferred genre, so this one gets used a lot for both rhythm and leads.
 
Honorable mention: SampleLogic's Cinematic Guitars series. These are more for texture and underscores, but they create sounds I can't easily get with any other guitar library or synthesizer.


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Re: Are there any great electric guitar VSTi's? What are you using, if any? 2018/04/04 18:10:15 (permalink)
I consider MIDI triggered sound libraries as temporary stand-ins for real performers. It's always a good idea to have seasoned professionals to play on your tracks, whenever it is possible. For that matter any decent virtual instrument is good enough for demos or even commercial but not top of the line records.

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