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Are we done with Platinum only updates?
One of the original features of Platinum was that owners would receive special features. It was a way to differentiate Platinum from the other flavours of Sonar. We did get a few things last year but I can't really remember anything this year. I'm not complaining, just wondering is it's still a feature. Cakewalk does change the game frequently.
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/10 14:29:16
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The AAS Ultra Analog Session 2 and Theme Editor are listed Platinum exclusives on the rolling updates page.
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/10 21:31:34
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I'm not complaining either "that was a fair question"!!!!!
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/10 21:42:07
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Agreed it's a fair question. The Lounge Lizard update was another Platinum-only feature. Some of the more "advanced" updates like the new linear-phase processors were for Platinum and Professional. However, only Platinum people were able to get lifetime updates. That seems like a fairly big "Platinum-only" kinda thing.
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/10 21:52:46
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I really don't want to stir things up. I'm really overwhelmed with the pace of change and was simply trying to figure out what was going on. Earlier today I just about posted something for a forum member that he was not entitled to. It was an honest mistake, but since I posted my intentions, a host was able to correct me. No harm done. I'm not looking for more stuff or complaining about the company.
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/10 23:59:07
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3rd party stuff seems to be a promotional activity from the 3rd party. The AAS session stuff has also come with my Korg NonoKeys. I had the full AAS (Pre Strum) so it didn't effect me, but other like AD1, hooked me on to their products, and the 3rd party made some money. Breverb and ReMatrix, fulfill my needs, but the confidence in the company led me to get VKFX. To upgrade TH2 (sit on the fence about 3), but when I decided against the Sampling route for Bass guitar, having now been hooked by Overloud, I got the MarkBass. So I'd think these small incentives to pick up 3rd party stuff would still come along. Developments in the program I expect that we are going to see these as part of the deal. How could they separate bug fixes and developments, when the two go hand in hand. Stuff like the Engineering Suite, I don't know. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I am now missing out on these and they were now paid add ons, but I'd hope for an incentive price over someone purchasing from outside Cakewalk. As they would be competing with the likes of fab filter.
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/11 12:05:40
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ampfixer I'm not looking for more stuff or complaining about the company. That's definitely not the way I took it. With the changes going on at Cakewalk, there could be significance to fewer Platinum updates...or maybe not. It seems that CW has been concentrating a lot lately on the core technology and enhancements, e.g. comping, plug-in balancing, and ripple editing. Once those are done, maybe they'll turn their attention to updates for specific SONAR flavors and we'll have a run of "Platinum-only" stuff, but I don't know. To quote one of your more memorable posts, "Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future." Frankly, I was surprised when the new phase-linear plug-ins weren't Platinum-only, but CW prefers to err on the side of generosity, even though they get complaints about doing so.
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/11 12:19:19
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I didn't realise that the linear Phase was available to professional too. Seems right to me for both the level and that it had been a bit quite on that front for development. I was surprised theme editor wasn't available to professional. I don't think colour customization should be restricted to one set of users.
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/11 14:43:37
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Lifetime upgrades/support is indeed a major benefit of Platinum, and one that is going to keep costing the company for a long time in the future. That is something that is far more likely to benefit all users than the scattershot bundling of third party plugins with limited features. If they can afford to actually provide support indefinitely into the future as the number of Platinum users increase, keeping that offer open indefinitely should justify the difference in pricing for most new or renewing users. But monthly members will not get that benefit at all. A bigger problem may be to keep users of the lesser versions coming back. One solution is to migrate the existing Platinum only code to Professional etc. But if you look at actual baked in features Platinum is not that different now, and many of the plugins that are different represent third party product that presumably will add to Cakewalk's cost. The promise of surprise goodies coming in Santa's bag was never the strongest argument for paying a premium for Platinum, but Professional members looking at a renewal are going to expect something new.
post edited by slartabartfast - 2016/09/11 17:09:33
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/11 16:03:13
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Anderton
ampfixer I'm not looking for more stuff or complaining about the company. That's definitely not the way I took it. With the changes going on at Cakewalk, there could be significance to fewer Platinum updates...or maybe not. It seems that CW has been concentrating a lot lately on the core technology and enhancements, e.g. comping, plug-in balancing, and ripple editing. Once those are done, maybe they'll turn their attention to updates for specific SONAR flavors and we'll have a run of "Platinum-only" stuff, but I don't know. To quote one of your more memorable posts, "Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future." Frankly, I was surprised when the new phase-linear plug-ins weren't Platinum-only, but CW prefers to err on the side of generosity, even though they get complaints about doing so.
So true! Anyone remember the XLN pack really cheap last Dec. that was a pricing mistake? They honored it. So I retaliated and got Sonar4Life.
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/11 16:27:47
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The new upcoming load balancing feature is a platinum only exclusive. So we're not done with platinum only features.
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/11 16:35:48
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That makes sense, given the plethora of Platinum plug-ins...it might be good to include that type of info in the Rolling Updates page, so people know which anticipated features are for which version. BTW Noel a propos of nothing and since you're online...I'd love a preference in Mix Recall where upon opening a project, SONAR would automatically save a Mix Recall file with the date. It's gotten to the point where I do that almost reflexively every time I open a project. The more I use Mix Recall, the more I appreciate its value.
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/11 23:48:12
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A pretty fair question given all the recent changes ampfixer. It is easy to forget the major differences that are alreay there though. The ProChannel EQ flyout with spectrum analysis, drum replacer and additional pro channel modules (eg breverb) are enough to warrant the investment in Platinum IMHO. The rest is cream:)
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/12 08:29:29
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Anderton It seems that CW has been concentrating a lot lately on the core technology and enhancements, e.g. comping, plug-in balancing, and ripple editing.
I like the focus on core technology a lot! Don't really need the add-on content much. When I feel the need to add more gadgets/options/toys, I rather shop around ...
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/12 09:44:19
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kitekrazy1
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ampfixer I'm not looking for more stuff or complaining about the company. That's definitely not the way I took it. With the changes going on at Cakewalk, there could be significance to fewer Platinum updates...or maybe not. It seems that CW has been concentrating a lot lately on the core technology and enhancements, e.g. comping, plug-in balancing, and ripple editing. Once those are done, maybe they'll turn their attention to updates for specific SONAR flavors and we'll have a run of "Platinum-only" stuff, but I don't know. To quote one of your more memorable posts, "Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future." Frankly, I was surprised when the new phase-linear plug-ins weren't Platinum-only, but CW prefers to err on the side of generosity, even though they get complaints about doing so.
So true! Anyone remember the XLN pack really cheap last Dec. that was a pricing mistake? They honored it. So I retaliated and got Sonar4Life.
+1 Good thing to remember and a good contributing reason for getting Sonar4Life.
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/12 15:38:31
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IT's funny that when I asked the question in my OP that some folks thought I was complaining. Monthly updates are almost more than I can keep up with. There's so much to learn for an old guy like me that the boundaries between different flavours of Sonar are fuzzy. It's not an issue right now but it will be one day once Cakewalk starts to release paid add-ons. It will be quite a little matrix. 3 flavours of Sonar, lifetime, annual and monthly purchase plans, core features, monthly updates and retail add-ons. And do the whole thing again for the Mac platform. I can see how folks could get confused.
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/12 20:45:12
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk] The new upcoming load balancing feature is a platinum only exclusive. So we're not done with platinum only features.
I already saw a significant improvement when it comes to core balancing in the latest update. If there are even more improvements coming, this upcoming release is going to be awesome!
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Re: Are we done with Platinum only updates?
2016/09/12 22:48:43
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Too Much stuff for me to figure out now... I just looked at the Breverb2 in the ProCh for the first time... I had some free time... Lots of other stuff that I know I have that I've never seen yet. :)
post edited by Passive Drift - 2016/09/12 23:09:49
Hay look, Somethings are not locked in stone... lol 3/18/2019
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