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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/20 19:50:25 (permalink)
Glyn , i do think that the kept the ratios , so they imposed themselves a limitation that is just stupid imho , i had big hopes seeing what are they on ipad .... Big , clear with several pages , it even simplify the process , now a mini v exactly like it it just 2 time bigger (limiter because of it horizontal dimension with a useless keyboard also ) : why ?

Glyn can confirm that when you install , you have 2 dll the old v2 and the new ones (v3) or does it replace ancient one (witch would be great !!

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/20 22:15:53 (permalink)
Interestingly, I've noticed that Spark 2 is not included in the 17 software titles included in version 5.  Luckily, I had version 4 and it can be installed from there.  Great update and additions.  Just interesting Spark 2 is not in the new version as far as I can tell.  I've gone through and looked at what's in there carefully and I don't see any signs of it.  Spark 2 was one of the reasons I was pulled into ver 4 when Arturia had their recent fire sale.

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/20 22:37:59 (permalink)
And they seem to have lost the FX section. Also, some weird GUI changes, not always good.

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/21 04:11:46 (permalink)
I installed the demo on a second computer so I cant confirm the existing version 4 synths are not overwritten. But when you install Analog Lab 2 the original remains.

Fleer, are you sure the FX are missing and not just on a separate page? I am away for a couple of days so I cant check.

Interesting that Spark is not included, I had not noticed as its the one thing I never use. I am not much into electronic drums, but I cant make head or tale of it anyway.

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/21 04:22:55 (permalink)
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Definitely check your online Arturia account.  You can update individual instruments to the new GUI versions for $9.99 a piece.  If you have quite a few of them, I think you can update them to the new GUI's for some flat fee as well.


I just tried this and it did not work.  They took my money but no download, no nothing so the $9.99 update thing does not seem to be working right now.  I advise against doing it at this point.  I have contacted them so we will wait and see what happens.  I will report back once I know.

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 07:55:52 (permalink)
I tried those and fx are still there ....
I m mad because it s damm big on my c drive ....v collection 4 +5 and in programmes data arturia you will end up with 8 gb of ressources ....

No way to customise the install for the ressources , only fir the dll and stanalone and unistaller

I tried to modify the instal path in registery in local machine , arturia and repoint a new place , but plugins launches with missing data error ....

If anybody can help to move thoses gb away from C , i will appreciate !!!

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 08:54:57 (permalink)
Quote from Audiofanzine.com:
"the five new included models are also available separately at a MSRP of €199 each."
http://en.audiofanzine.com/virtual-intrument-bundle/arturia/v-collection-5/news/a.play,n.22751.html
 
If you fancy the 5 additions and the scalable GUI, then upgrading for 250 euro's a good price. 
No reviews yet from the magazines I read though (sound on sound / computer music / music tech)
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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 15:55:52 (permalink)
Damm , i wanted to try those before making a purchase as usual at audio Deluxe or jrrshop , price in audio Deluxe was 169 $ now it's back at 199 $ anybody know a place where it's still 169 ?

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 15:57:03 (permalink)
Just wait, Zo, won't take very long.

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 16:42:02 (permalink)
i don't know maybe theyr try to unifomalise (don't know if it's English lol) prices ....
 
 
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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 16:54:51 (permalink)
May want to familiarize yourself with the command line utility mklink using the /j or /d option. I would imagine directory junctions (the /j option) would be a solution to your issue.
 
I have written several explanations of how to use directory junctions. To see the threads search google for:
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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 16:56:35 (permalink)
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May want to familiarize yourself with the command line utility mklink using the /j or /d option. I would imagine directory junctions (the /j option) would be a solution to your issue.
 
I have written several explanations of how to use directory junctions. To see the threads search google for:
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Thks , i deleted my post since i have an issue ....i will defiintly investigate  !! 

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 16:59:33 (permalink)
Scook , when you do your solution , does all ethe entry in this folder will falow ?
 
I fi need to get back stufff as it was , i retype this command again in the other way ?

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 17:06:54 (permalink)
Yes. for example to move the entire Arturia folder from ProgramData to the root of E: the steps would be
  1. Move C:\ProgramData\Arturia to E:\ArturiaPD
  2. Run cmd.exe as administrator at type: mklink /j C:\ProgramData\Arturia E:\ArturiaPD
Of course there is no need to use the root of E: any path would do, I just used the root of E: to save typing.
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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 17:20:44 (permalink)
yep scook i just did it and it works , just wanted to know how to roll back ? just erasing the "link" and putting back the fiolder ?

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 17:23:03 (permalink)
Yes
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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 17:32:31 (permalink)
Scook you just made a man happy today , because it escalade fast :
 
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i own you some a gift homie !!!

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 18:03:49 (permalink)
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Just wait, Zo, won't take very long.


Do you have any infos or just a feeling ? ;)

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/22 22:30:04 (permalink)
More of a hunch ;)

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/23 05:49:57 (permalink)
Well I took the plunge as I was interested in the Synclavier, when looking at the pricing I could get the Synclavier for 199 Euros or the collection for 199 Euros.  Now lets me think how tough is this.

I get the Synclavier for 199 or B3, Rhodes, Synclavier, Modelled Piano, Farfisa Organ for 199.
 
As I do not have a B3 instrument, I always liked the Rhodes sound it became what one might call a no brainer.
 
They all seem OK but not had a real chance to have a play yet.

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/23 16:34:37 (permalink)
I am loving the Synclavier presets in Analog Lab 2. I have also warmed to some of the B3 sounds, I particularly like the percussion. But I have VB3 and Vintage Organs so I am not sure I need the full version. To go for the full upgrade, for me is like €99 for the synclavier. The jury is still out.

Something I had not noticed before is neither Analog Lab 1 or 2 is NKS, this probably makes sense as it is designed to work with Arturia's hardware. Still I missed browsing the presets from my keyboard and having properly labeled encoders. Possibly another reason to get full versions.

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/23 17:47:18 (permalink)
Definitely check your online Arturia account.  You can update individual instruments to the new GUI versions for $9.99 a piece.  If you have quite a few of them, I think you can update them to the new GUI's for some flat fee as well.

I just tried this and it did not work.  They took my money but no download, no nothing so the $9.99 update thing does not seem to be working right now.  I advise against doing it at this point.  I have contacted them so we will wait and see what happens.  I will report back once I know.
 
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This has all worked out fine as it usually does. The 9.99 update options are excellent. After payment a registered version of the update appears in your My Arturia account.  You just download the new installer and it will re authorise very well.  The new installer file size is larger than the original installer.  The GUI is way better.  I love it.  Can be very large and right back to the original machine itself.  It looks amazing. You can reach out and touch it!  I will be upgrading the others I have as well.
 
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The only other two I have are Mini V and Jupiter 8V. I have upgraded to V3 for those and they are well worth the GUI update now. V3 offers quite a lot more too in terms of what the instrument can do, browser etc.. defitinely an improvement.
Jupiter 8V looks killer on a 27" screen. You can fill it and it looks amazing. So does Mini V.  It is much easier to operate.  These new versions all have fresh updated factory presets and most of them are killer. 
 
 
 
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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/24 12:34:32 (permalink)
Jeff i didn't saw individuals update offer but only the 99 $ or 199 $ so i think its because you have individuals not bundled right ?
 
I took the plunge for 199 but the new one reallyare like i waisting some space expt for the synthclavier
 
so i'm like i should have just gone for the 99 gui update ...since i had analog lab 2 with new synth presets that are more than enoughth ...
 
 
 

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/24 15:36:59 (permalink)
Yes I only have 3 Arturia synths.  I felt I just only wanted the three out of the whole bundle.  I have got Sonic Projects OPX II Pro which is another amazing sounding analog synth.  And many other synths including real ones such as a loaded JV2080, Roland JD800 as well as the additive Kawai K5000W.  These all sound pretty amazing as well.
 
If you have the Arturia V Collection bundle I would say the upgrade price is well worth it.  The extra instruments would be very nice Synclavier I would imagine would be sweet.  The individual upgrades are excellent for those with only one or two Arturia synths.
 
Mini V can be switched into polyphonic mode and it sounds sensational like that believe me.  I had a Jupiter 8 and this emulation sounds remarkable.  But the real buzz for me right now is the CS80.  It is one very remarkable sounding instrument.  And very different to the others too.
 
The upgrade has improved lots of things for each instrument as well as the scalable GUI which is nice.  On a 27" screen they look amazing.  It takes me right back to the days when I had them for real.  But very easy to grab controls and move them.  I love the way all these controls move now.  Very fine adjustments can be made with ease.
 
I do love all the instruments in the bundle and if they offered a great upgrade price from my current three to that I would do it I am sure.  The Moog Modular would be my next port of call I think. Imagine that at full size as well!  I love the Arturia stuff very much for its sound.  It is solid, robust, floor shaking here in my studio at times, sounds so close to the real deal it lets you focus in on the music.
 
I love Jupiter 8 V. I have grown up with some powerful polyphonic synths such as Oberheim, etc. I like the tried and true architecture of the Jupiter. Mini is the same as well.  But CS80 is a slightly weird beast and I am still wrapping my head around it. It is not normal!
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/24 16:09:03 (permalink)
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 The Moog Modular would be my next port of call I think. Imagine that at full size as well! 
I think this one will get the greatest advantage from the new GUI, it was a real pain to run the patch cords on the smaller GUI but on the demo of the new one it seems a lot easier. I know I will get more use out of it if I upgrade as I have mostly stuck to the presets with a touch of knob twiddling because of GUI size. My NI S61 Keyboard and the NKS update has already helped with the knob twiddling with its labled encoders.
 
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  But CS80 is a slightly weird beast and I am still wrapping my head around it. It is not normal!
 
I second that! I grew up with harware like the EMS Synthi A so I can get my head around most things analog, but this one is out on a limb. Sounds good though!
 
 
 


 

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/24 19:35:29 (permalink)
I spent the day on those (in demo mode , still didn received my licence from jrrshop lol)

First the synthclavier is just crazy .... Superb instinctif , easy to understand and a beast in power can believe this thing has my age !!

The ability to have so many sound sources and to be able to make each one morf in time is brilliant , i m still surprised there s no filter ....but since you can draw you own waves form harmonics ect ....you can kinda do it this way in time

I was thinking during all my testing and i came to the conclusion that i know remeber why i wasn t using those synth that much ..

First a lot of preset sucks , and second , you can take time to make a patch for real .....and i remember that nowdayz i don t have the time to spend hours in pre production and all ....so sure , those big guis help , but in fact , and arturia knows it , i ll be mostly using analog lab , and tweak when needed ...all that for 199 while i had analog lab for free ....is not good but they knew it , they knew that giving analog lab for free but not being able to tweak until you get the last versions will force guyz like me to update ...

The new ones aren t something to cry about , not bad , not beauty condidering what we already have around in the keyz department ...

Really waiting for zebra 3 .... Omnisphere 2 : I took the plunge but what i was afraid of is happening : so **** slow in loading patches ...i asked ol pal about that before buying , he told me it was better know , but i don t feel like so ... My best purchase this past years is still uhe and gforce all synths ... Imho

That said arturia mini , prphet , oberheim , synthclavier , jupi and cs 80 are exellent ....

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/25 08:04:27 (permalink)
The CS 80 is my go to pad synth, the Modular I have had since the initial release back when it brought XP to its knee's with more than three oscillators, I have pluses and minuses about the new GUI, but I like that they have swapped the Osc's and Filters around with the Sequencer, Tone filter and FX.

The Synclavier is going to need some reading but from what I am hearing it is going to be fun.

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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/25 09:52:54 (permalink)
I am still on V Collection 3, but LOVE the sounds, and creating new ones or tweaking existing patches is mostly a matter of understanding analog synthesis.  There are TONS of Sound on Sound articles on all facets of constructing analog patches, and with the investment into going through some of the freely available tutorials, you can fairly quickly become a master of analog sound synthesis yourself.
 
In the hardware early days of analog synths, not too many folks had more than one or two synths, so we all slogged through patch construction on the fly - and for synths like the Minimoog, you couldn't save anything, so you HAD to learn how to tweak which knobs to get the different sounds needed for live performance, etc....
 
Here we have a pretty sizable collection, and without that basic understanding of analog synth sound construction, it IS a bit daunting.
 
You will not regret the investment of a couple of dozen hours of synthesis tutorials, and the concepts apply to just about all of the synths.
 
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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/25 09:58:17 (permalink)
By the way, here is a link to the first of a 12-part free series of articles from Sound on Sound, walking you through analog synthesis:
 
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/jun97/synthschool1.html
 
The links for the rest of this series are also present on the above page.
 
I TRULY hope these will help you, and will help reduce some of the frustration when trying to get things to sound like what is in your head. :)
 
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Re: Arturia V Collection 5 2016/05/25 09:58:41 (permalink)
I've been thinking about an Arturia KeyLab 88, as it comes with so many sounds from the collection (which? I don't really know). So, thanks to all for your comments/feedback.
The Synclavier videos I've seen are just more of a reason.......everything I've heard of the others in Collection keeps it high on my wish list.
Michael
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