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2008/11/04 14:23:27 (permalink)

Audio Engine Problem

I have a problem here that i can't figure out. Any help with it will greatly be appreciated. tanks!
when the audio engine light is off I don't get a reading in the meters. when it's on i get a reaing but there's a delay. Can anyone explain this? How do I change it?

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/04 15:03:56 (permalink)
    The audio engine is a random subroutine that CW put in there to make you think the software is doing something. It really doesn't do much of anything. But if you want your engine to run better, a new set of spark plugs, a new PCV valve and airfilter does wonders.
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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/04 15:10:13 (permalink)
    it doesn't affect the recording and i use it to check and make sure i'm not too hot. But I didn't have this in GTP2

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/04 15:26:23 (permalink)

    Hey there Bill - I see our lovable forum troll Pete has introduced himself to you.

    You should be honoured though, after nigh on 21 months of complete and utter drivel from him, his reply to you is just about the most helpful, and humorous I can ever remember!

    I must admit, I don't fully understand what the audio engine does exaclty though - I've never 'used' it for anything as far as I can remember

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/04 15:34:14 (permalink)
    I'm also getting that error message again but only with the chorus 2 vap wide guitar effect , it records fine plays back but when i save and exit ,then return later it shows this
    I really liked that effect too!
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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/04 15:44:01 (permalink)
    steve i added a picture up at the top of this thread. Have a look to check if i'm describing the right thing. I can hear fine when the light is clicked off but in GTP2 It wasn't a problem.

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/04 15:46:34 (permalink)

    Bill, what and whereabouts is the chorus you're using, I'll take a look at mine for you.

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/04 15:49:20 (permalink)
    Its the chorus CH2 vsp off the list you posted in 1 of the past threads. the one I wanted to used is called wide guitar but ...
    did you see the picture at the top of this thread?
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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/04 18:06:34 (permalink)
    Yeah, I saw the image Bill - I've never noticed it on my GT3 mate, but it does seem very strange though.

    It might be worth seeing if Doc or one of the other 'tech' guys has experienced this or has an understanding of what is actually going on though.








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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/05 10:30:14 (permalink)
    I have playback and can hear what I play so it's only an annoyance. Steve did you get the mp3 the other nite? The last thing you said was there was a problem with the download. We were both too tired to function. The time got away from me.

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/05 15:32:22 (permalink)

    Bill, yes mate - I did manage to save it in the end!

    To be honest I haven't had a chance to have a play along yet, but I will, it sounds cool!

    You should add some lead to it you know!

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/05 16:37:05 (permalink)
    its the frame for the lyrics. it needs to evolve but with bass the basics will be in place and i can go from there. Thanks for helping me out . The tempo was 86 on the keyboard but it wasn't quite in sync with the rhythm of GTP3. The clicks are from the keyboard.

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/05 16:46:10 (permalink)

    Bill, can you send me the chords after all.

    I think I can follow the root notes by ear OK but knowing the chords might let me add a bit more variation.

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/05 16:48:13 (permalink)

    And I didn't know you sung

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/05 17:04:23 (permalink)
    well I not sure I can after all the radiation treatment. My voice gives out very easily now but It may be due to such a long layoff also. I have a scanner and can write out a cord chart if you like or post the chord progression here. which would you prefer?

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/05 17:08:14 (permalink)

    The progression here would be fine Bill - I've just plugged the bass in!

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/05 17:22:18 (permalink)
    first and foremost have fun with it.
    intro- Em7 verse - Em 7/Em6 C/add9 F#m11 G6 A/add9 Em7 6
    the second half of the verse has one Em7 to 6 then straight to C F#m etc.
    2nd ending goes to B sus to E F#11 on the chorus then back to top without repeat
    just be ajammin with it

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/05 17:29:05 (permalink)

    Thanks Bill - I'm going to have a go now mate.

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/05 17:40:45 (permalink)

    Bill, at 1:40 - am I right there are two repeats of A - G before it goes back to the E - F#

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/05 18:09:53 (permalink)

    Bill - I'm missing chords for bars 41 and 42 (at about 1:52)

    The bit between the E-F#11 and the return to the Em7


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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/06 08:37:53 (permalink)
    it's A/add9 to G6. Add some guitar if you'd like, have some fun!

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/06 09:30:54 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: stratmanforever

    I have playback and can hear what I play so it's only an annoyance. Steve did you get the mp3 the other nite? The last thing you said was there was a problem with the download. We were both too tired to function. The time got away from me.


    Bill is this a visual issue or an audio problem. When you say you are getting a delay when the audio engine is on is that a delay in what you play and what you hear coming through GTP3?
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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/06 10:57:25 (permalink)
    the delay is on the meter only. I can hear sound through the computer speakers. When the button is off(unlit) there is no reading in the metter.
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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/07 10:29:18 (permalink)
    Durring pl;ayback you will need to have the audio engine running. This is normal for audio. The lag timne in the display may be due to how the video is routed in your computer. If it is on the main board chances are the lag time or visual latency is due to shared CPU time and memory usage. The visual ques can be imnproved through optimization of the PC and the usage of an external audio card and a dedicated video card.

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/07 11:33:56 (permalink)
    It's not really cuasing a problem . I can set the volumes before recording.

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/08 13:48:58 (permalink)

    Hi there Bill

    Bit of a long shot this but worth checking none the less.

    Right click on any meter in the Mix View of a project and choose this path:

    All Meters>Playback Meter Options

    Make sure Post-Fader is selected instead of Pre-Fader.


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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/08 15:07:03 (permalink)
    post meter is checked

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/08 15:37:54 (permalink)

    Yeah I guessed as much mate, just a long shot - the meters look a bit 'different' to me when pre-fader is set.

    BTW, I've had quite a few runs through the choon with the bass Bill - I'll record something pretty soon and see what you think. It sounds best to me played really low and with a lot of deep bass - it keeps away from the same territory EQ-wise as the chords you're playing near the nut.

    Steve

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/08 16:04:50 (permalink)
    After hearing the recording I realized there was too much bass in the low end. when I record it again I when have a different EQ. I need to re-do all of it. I have the vocals next to record. after that I'll start rebuilding the song.The drums are sloppy but i was playing around . Did you put any guitar in? Do anything you like with it. Most of all have fun!

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    RE: Audio Engine Problem 2008/11/08 16:19:23 (permalink)

    I've not tried guitar yet mate - I must admit, even though I studied a little music at school, I play lead stuff mostly by ear.

    That's fine with most of the stuff I play, playing power chords the lead parts imply the chords to some extent and also the key.

    I need to study more when it comes to 'real' chords I guess!

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