Audio: XFi Gamer vs Delta44 vs PCR-A30 vs ???

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2010/11/06 14:18:54 (permalink)

Audio: XFi Gamer vs Delta44 vs PCR-A30 vs ???

My DAW (2.8 GHz Pentium 4 from 2004) has an M-Audio Delta44, which in Sonar 8.5 gives me a minimum latency (with 2 buffers) of 5.8ms. 

My main PC (Core 2 Duo E6600 from 2007) has a Creative Labs XFi Gamer, which gives a min latency of 10ms (with WMD; ASIO has crackle at 10ms and lower).

I also have an Edirol PCR-A30 USB MIDI controller/audio interface.  When I use it on my main PC, I get a min latency of 3ms.  This implies it's the fastest, but it's also the least convenient to use, since it's external and I have no room to leave it plugged in all the time (with its own headphones).

I'm thinking about using the main pc for music-making (focusing on soft synths), but am wondering which audio interface to use with it.

The XFi Gamer (from 2007) is, according to my tests, the worst in terms of latency.  If I replace that with a more modern Creative Labs sound card (something with more connections and maybe even MIDI), is that likely to have better latency?  Does anyone have any specs pertaining to Creative Labs latency?

Or is Creative Labs a dead end in terms of Sonar?  I know in the past everyone's advised against it, and on my DAW I'm perfectly happy with my Delta44, but I would love to have a game-friendly sound card that can also handle Sonar pretty well, so that I can have two potential DAWs and not just one.

Or, if I get my main PC upgraded with a better CPU, would it make sense to install my Delta44 there, along side the XFi Gamer?  Can two sound cards happily coexist like that?

What do you suggest?
post edited by Tripecac - 2010/11/06 16:20:48

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    ohgrant
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    Re:Audio: XFi Gamer vs Delta44 vs PCR-A30 vs ??? 2010/11/07 21:04:08 (permalink)
     Not the X Fi for sure, great for gaming not so good for recording, I had to part with my X fi a while back. Didn't you say you also have a WaveCenter PCI in the other thread, I believe that is also an audio interface and might be your best choice for PCI if the Delta 44 doesn't have MIDI. If not the Edirol I think. Having 2 soundcards can lead to IRQ conflicts on some systems, I would not install both of those cards in that new system unless you have to. JMO

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    Re:Audio: XFi Gamer vs Delta44 vs PCR-A30 vs ??? 2010/11/08 07:09:09 (permalink)
    I had an Xfi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion card installed and the ASIO in the SoundBlaster was interferring with the other ASIO devices I had such as my Focustrite Saffire Pro 40 audio interface.  Everytime I started Sonar it would default to the SoundBlaster for the ASIO latency and I would have to manually change it back to the Saffire Pro 40.  Even if I closed a project and opened a different project I would have to manually reset the ASIO Latency device.  The Xfi Fatl1ty card is a nice card but I had enough and put my older HT Omega Striker 7.1 sound card back in (not ASIO).  It eliminated the Sonar ASIO problem but still provided a good PC audio sound card.  

    I only use the Saffire Pro 40 for recording I/O - I don't use the PC's sound card for Sonar.

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