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Audio - increase tremolo
Hello,
I've recorded some artificial flute track, the flute has some vibrato and tremolo at its longer phrases. But: it's not enough tremolo. I'd like to change the tremolo so that the quieter parts become more quiet, maybe even near 0 sound.
If you imagine the amplitude as a sine wave, I want to pull the lower curves more down but without changing anything else.
I could not yet figure out how to accomplish that. The closest approach coming to mind would be adding such dynamics via
V-Vocal but sadly that's not showing up in my installed SPlat.
Any hint in the right direction would be much appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
Cheers
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Re: Audio - increase tremolo
2017/12/15 03:23:46
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☄ Helpfulby MimoJP 2017/12/15 05:01:33
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Re: Audio - increase tremolo
2017/12/15 03:33:15
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Re: Audio - increase tremolo
2017/12/15 03:48:32
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☄ Helpfulby MimoJP 2017/12/15 05:01:40
To get V-Vocal installed in Platinum requires a minimal install of a previous version of SONAR. See http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3611717. Keep in mind V-Vocal is pretty old and has been reported to have trouble with some Win10 installs.
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Re: Audio - increase tremolo
2017/12/15 05:45:21
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Thanks guys for the speedy response!
An external tremolo plugin is what I had tried already a bit and it is indeed better than nothing. However, that would result in _additional_ tremolo besides the one already in the recording. Thus the added tremolo speed is hard to match absolutely to that of the source.
What I try to do is more like the pitch tool in Melodyne, but with tremolo. Adding _more_ tremolo but triggered by the already existing signal.
Anyways, thanks again for the replies, I will work my way through these posts asap.
Cheers
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Re: Audio - increase tremolo
2017/12/15 06:02:50
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☄ Helpfulby MimoJP 2017/12/15 15:42:21
It seems there are a few ways to go.
You could put the tremolo effect on a send, then automate when the track is effected. You can draw this in or "ride the faders." There are other ways the track signal can trigger effects, depending on the plug-in(s). Side-chaining might be an option, too.
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Re: Audio - increase tremolo
2017/12/15 12:49:05
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☄ Helpfulby MimoJP 2017/12/15 15:42:33
An expander (a kind of compressor in reverse which makes quiet parts quieter) might do the job.
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Re: Audio - increase tremolo
2017/12/16 16:18:51
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You could put the tremolo effect on a send, then automate when the track is effected. You can draw this in or "ride the faders." There are other ways the track signal can trigger effects, depending on the plug-in(s). Side-chaining might be an option, too.
Thank you for your input! I do like that idea very much, especially "riding faders" sounds like exactly what I want to do. Also what @ stated, expanding the original source seems like what I want to do. Sadly, I am just only a live player and I do lack the skills for doing such great things. For now, I dug out an old laptop which had a former Sonar version incl. V-Vocal installed and applied some tremolo by that. Context: soundcloud.com/michajp/eagle-16dec17 but it's far away from my formerly stated goal. @'s approach with side-chaining sounds very interesting but I have no clue about how to accomplish that. By the way, IF there are ways outside of Sonar, I'd happily try them out. Having Studio One, Magix, Audacity, Samplitude, Harrison etc. installed (without knowing all their details), I find it strange if none of these products can be used to do such a simple thing. Cheers
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Re: Audio - increase tremolo
2017/12/16 17:27:08
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MimoJP
Thank you for your input! I do like that idea very much, especially "riding faders" sounds like exactly what I want to do. Also what @ stated, expanding the original source seems like what I want to do.
Sadly, I am just only a live player and I do lack the skills for doing such great things.
It shouldn't be too difficult. It's just a shorthand way of describing using a fader, knob, or control on a MIDI controller or control surface to write your automation. This can be done live or offline. https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=Automation.01.html MimoJP
@'s approach with side-chaining sounds very interesting but I have no clue about how to accomplish that.
By the way, IF there are ways outside of Sonar, I'd happily try them out.
Having Studio One, Magix, Audacity, Samplitude, Harrison etc. installed (without knowing all their details), I find it strange if none of these products can be used to do such a simple thing.
Here it depends whether the plug-in you use has a sidechain input or not. It's more common with compressors, but other plug-ins sometimes have sidechain inputs, as well.
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