Audio metronome and Audio Tracks play a hair before they should

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2011/10/02 21:58:10 (permalink)

Audio metronome and Audio Tracks play a hair before they should

I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this issue:
With my set up (WIN 7 64 Bit, and X1C), Audio Metronome and AUDIO content from a track presents itself JUST BEFORE THE BEAT.
This was first detected when recording a MIDI track and noticing that everything I played was presenting VISUALLY on the Piano Roll about a 64th ahead of the actual performance.
When using a MIDI metronome this problem does not happen.
Can someone test this on their own system?
Use an AUDIO metronome, and then record a MIDI performance attampting to follow the CLICK track beat for beat.
Go back and LOOK at the MIDI performance and see if it's ahead of where you would expect it to be.
If it is, try the same performance to a MIDI click track and see if the performace looks right one where you expect it.
I am very insterested to see if anyone else is experiencing this problem. Its difficult to detect but the problem does make for recordings that are not tight.
Thanks to anyone willing to try this out.
 
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    brundlefly
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    Re:Audio metronome and Audio Tracks play a hair before they should 2011/10/02 23:58:14 (permalink)
    This definitely does not affect all systems. It's hardware-dependent, and most users will not be able to reproduce your symptoms. My system, for example, records MIDI with only the 1ms transmission transmission delay each way that you would expect. Some systems require a Timing Offset in Preferences > Audio > Sync and Caching (not to be confused with Manual Offset of audio latency compensation on the same page) to adjust the relationship between MIDI and Audio playback and recording.

    You might first try setting IgnoreMidiInTimestamps=1 in TTSSEQ.INI (C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\SONAR X1 Producer\).



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    Re:Audio metronome and Audio Tracks play a hair before they should 2011/10/03 18:19:04 (permalink)
    Brindlefly,
    Thanks for that tip.
    I've been trouble shooting the problem and it's dopwn to either a Windows 7 (64bit) glitch or Cakewalk. The most recent versions use the Beatscape engine for the metronome, so that may a possibility too.

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    Re:Audio metronome and Audio Tracks play a hair before they should 2011/10/04 01:21:51 (permalink)
    The most recent versions use the Beatscape engine for the metronome, so that may a possibility too.



    Not that it matters, but I thought X1 still used GroovePlayer.DLL for the audio metronome, no?





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