tvolhein
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Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
I am looking to find the simplest way to tune up vocal tracks. Which would be the better purchase, Auto-Tune or Melodyne? Thanks in advance. Tom
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/01 14:04:18
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/01 14:09:46
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/01 14:36:03
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I have melodyne and it is a good program (I have an older version and have not upgraded since the DNA came out). but I've found myself using V-vocal more frequently lately.
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/01 15:15:57
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Melodyne as well. I have the Melodyne Editor. I use it and love it for it's transparency. If the singer does a good job and only has minor pitch issues, the results are often excellent. Very few artifacts unless you are doing major surgery on the notes. Note: your singer should always aim for the best possible take.... then Melodyne has an easy job "fixing" the issues. I have heard someone take Melodyne and create the autotune classic sound..... but it is actually actively creating the artifacts with massive manipulation of the notes and formants.
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/02 01:37:48
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Auto-Tune is simpler. You get results quicker. But, Melodyne sounds better and gives you more control and editing choices.
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/02 08:30:50
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/02 09:59:15
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Ever thought of singing in tune? Just a thought.
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/02 11:11:07
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Bristol_Jonesey Ever thought of singing in tune? I think about it all the time. Alas, the actual ability has always eluded me.
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/02 11:27:47
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And me Jon - just playing Devil's Adv. as usual.
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/06 11:24:45
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I had the same question.....didn't see this post.....I just want something that will correct a few notes with the kind of vocalist who sings flat no matter how many takes you do, lol
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/06 11:34:17
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/07 01:15:27
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I use Melodyne but there was what appeared to be a very knowledgeable guy running a Pro Tools seminar recently who was really pushing Auto-tune. I find Melodyne to be easier to use but whatever you use , I would only use it where you need to.
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/07 04:22:05
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/07 15:50:52
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Beagle: This was a situation where I basically wrote the tune and the melody was a little out of reach for the client.....contemporary country style tune...key of G...highest vocal note is a high B.....alot of dynamics and highs and lows melody wise, so the key was the best place for the song to sit.....the client could hit the note in falsetto, but I specifically wanted the note belted out (think Miranda Lambert).....speakers, headphones, no headphones, one headphone off, etc. would not have mattered because the note just couldn't be reached no matter what....
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/07 15:52:01
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Anyone have autotune efx?
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/07 16:02:43
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yes. For simple pitch problems and the the "T-Pain" effect it does yeoman work.
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/08 09:03:04
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I read that the autotune has the "auto" function where you can track the singer in real time...I like the simplicity of that....I willl probably get Melodyne Editor and the cheap version of Autotune to cover all the bases. Being able to change polyphony in Melodyne sounds like a great idea....either way, I'm sure they both beat v-vocal
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/08 10:03:07
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Well I got a flyer that Auto Tune efx is on sale at banjo center for $49.00 if that helps. Clifford
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/08 10:04:41
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Gaffpro Beagle: This was a situation where I basically wrote the tune and the melody was a little out of reach for the client.....contemporary country style tune...key of G...highest vocal note is a high B.....alot of dynamics and highs and lows melody wise, so the key was the best place for the song to sit.....the client could hit the note in falsetto, but I specifically wanted the note belted out (think Miranda Lambert).....speakers, headphones, no headphones, one headphone off, etc. would not have mattered because the note just couldn't be reached no matter what.... Just a thought here but did you try and transpose the tune down a step or two so the singer may be able to reach the top note? just my 2 cents. Clifford
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/09 14:51:28
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Yes, and the bottom note was too low....key of G was a happy medium, or so I thought......
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/09 15:01:17
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Melodyne without a doubt... The ease with which you can rein-in intonation is amazing (just like percentage quantizing MIDI)
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/09 16:24:16
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Gaffpro Yes, and the bottom note was too low....key of G was a happy medium, or so I thought...... Ok....then at least you tried......and you tried to come up with a middle ground........that is the important thing..... but I am sorry it did not work out....I am out of ideas. Clifford
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/10 16:07:16
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Clifford: Seems like some of the young kids can do Stevie Wonder or Beyonce vocal runs but totally miss out on fundamentals....singing in tune and in time Melodyne Editor is on the way (and to the rescue)....I saw some youtube demo's on this and it looks like a great time saver...changing whole chords? AWESOME!
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/30 03:03:15
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I have melodyne and it is a good program but I've found myself using V-vocal more frequently lately.
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/30 11:58:04
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For some people, the iLok dongle disqualifies AutoTune from consideration.
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/31 09:04:57
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Gaffpro Beagle: This was a situation where I basically wrote the tune and the melody was a little out of reach for the client.....contemporary country style tune...key of G...highest vocal note is a high B.....alot of dynamics and highs and lows melody wise, so the key was the best place for the song to sit.....the client could hit the note in falsetto, but I specifically wanted the note belted out (think Miranda Lambert).....speakers, headphones, no headphones, one headphone off, etc. would not have mattered because the note just couldn't be reached no matter what.... Sorry - I didn't see this response directly to me until now. if the vocalist can't reach the note then I understand your need for sometime else. since you said "client" then I'm assuming you're being paid to record him/her and if I were you, I'd probably do the same thing - reach for v-vocal or melodyne. however, as a producer I would also strongly suggest that the client retrack the entire song 1/2 or a hole step lower so that he/she CAN get the note without artificial means. if this is a "payday" note like it sounds like it is from your description - then I as a producer and an artist (from the client's perspective) would NOT want that payday note to sound artificial on my voice. just my thoughts. for what it's worth. EDIT: well, crap, I see you've already addressed this as well. sorry. sounds like you have no choice...
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/08/31 12:35:16
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"bitflipper" For some people, the iLok dongle disqualifies AutoTune from consideration. I use to think this way also. Purchasing EastWest libraries gave me no choice but to get on the dongle bandwaggon. And with time, came to appreciate the fact that I don't need to leave my DAW continuously connected to the NET because of the "challenge/responce" process (amongst other advantages). I've even transferred my Izotope products to my ilok account now. Whenever I intend to purchase new plugins/libraries, I look for ilok support.
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/09/01 15:27:49
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Beagle: I actually had already lowered the key of the tune from Bb to G.....I sent a quick demo with a female vocal on it in the key of G......client's response was to raise the key 1/2 step....as a producer, I disagreed.....I asked, "Is there any problem hitting the lowest note in the tune"?...the reply was "no"......what about the highest note (which would be a high B)...the answer was "no" When session started, client was hitting the "B" in falsetto....I specifically said previously, "NO FALSETTO"...this is an angry sounding country tune (well as angry as Taylor Swift is, lol) and the attitude has to be conveyed in the song.....this is why I had to get Melodyne...I will post the tune asap to get everyone's opinion...thanks
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Re:Auto-Tune or Melodyne?
2011/09/01 21:31:06
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I understand.
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