BFD2 $99

quibb


Just got the email. Upgrade from Eco for $99.
I just bought EZdrummer and I already have Eco. Is this still a no-brainer?
 
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Eco to BFD2 is a good upgrade IMO.


I'm sure you know this but BFD2 sounds are not as processed as EZDrummer so they require more "engineering" on your part than EEZDrummer. If this is what you are after BFD2 is what you should get. Just remmeber, for the most part BFD2 packs are a bit more expensive than EZDrummer packs.

$99 for that programme is definitely no brainer material. I'm all drummed out but that in a box is £71, which is a bargain. I'd skip the 55GB download, it would take me a year.

Are they going to bring out BFD3 soon? Only Twaddle will know.

can bfd be sent to different outputs in sonar like session drummer is?
example kick-1
snare-2
hi hat 3
toms-4
exc,exc,exc,...

and if so,how easy is that to do?
what im asking is,whats the learning curve like?

im about two seconds away from picking up bfd.

chuckebaby: yes. There's an output selector at the bottom of each mixer channel.

I just bought the BFD upgrade...

Even though I use Superior (and have done since the DFHS release),I do like the "rawness" of the BFD drums..

55 GB of drums pristinely recorded at AIR Studios would have to have some redeeming features....

So I'd say that the $99 upgrade price would have to be a no-brainer - especially if you only have to shell out $15 for BFD Eco during the Audio MIDI silly season...
 
It would cost you more than that just to open the door at AIR studios :)
 
BTW : Don't be tempted to buy the D/L version of BFD....The D/L files are only 20 bit :(
 
Recording the library for their flagship product at AIR Studios and then rendering them down to 20 bit so that they are easier to download...That's pure BS.... 
 
Then they try to explain it away by saying that we'd never hear the difference...More BS....
 
Zero points for the BS FXpansion and they need a rocket for that one     
 
Anyway...If you ask Skit Skat nicely on FeeBay,you can get the upgrade for $94...
 
That's what I did  
 
 

I like BFD, but hey, all of the drum programs are so good now, I don't think it really matters. It's more about processing the drums me thinks. But I don't use the loops, nothing wrong with doing so, I just choose to play them instead of looping. People get some pretty good sounds with Session Drummer and it comes w/Sonar.

Bristol_Jonesey

Genghis

chuckebaby


can bfd be sent to different outputs in sonar like session drummer is?
example kick-1
snare-2
hi hat 3
toms-4
exc,exc,exc,...

and if so,how easy is that to do?
what im asking is,whats the learning curve like?

im about two seconds away from picking up bfd.

It's not too difficult to do.  I set mine up with a drum compression mix of the whole kit, kick, snare, cymbals, toms, and room channels and then saved a template for starting projects to save time.

I have EZ and Superior Drummer as well, and I tend to use BFD the most since they went 64bit.  BFD and Superior pretty much come down to personal preferences as they are both very good and flexible programs.  For me it was easier to set up my mix channels in BFD, so that's one reason I lean that way.

For parallel compression, I tend to use the "Amb3" stereo channels, then just blend it in to taste.


You can of course control how much of each kit piece actually feeds into Amb3, so you have total control.

Yeah, I do that too for what I think of as a dirty compressed track.  I add some grit and EG it a bit differently and mix it right there in BFD2.  I also send each group of kit pieces to it's own channel in SONAR for separate processing, just because I like some of my VST plugins better than the ones in BFD2.  Kick, Snare, Cymbals and Toms.  The master output gets put into it's own stereo track which I usually have compressed and then bring up just a little bit to fatten things up, and then all of the ambient channels, including my Amb3 track go to stereo channel.  This gives me all the mixing flexibility I need with 6 tracks in SONAR. 

digitalboy


I just bought the BFD upgrade...

Even though I use Superior (and have done since the DFHS release),I do like the "rawness" of the BFD drums..

55 GB of drums pristinely recorded at AIR Studios would have to have some redeeming features....

So I'd say that the $99 upgrade price would have to be a no-brainer - especially if you only have to shell out $15 for BFD Eco during the Audio MIDI silly season...
 
It would cost you more than that just to open the door at AIR studios :)
 
BTW : Don't be tempted to buy the D/L version of BFD....The D/L files are only 20 bit :(
 
Recording the library for their flagship product at AIR Studios and then rendering them down to 20 bit so that they are easier to download...That's pure BS.... 
 
Then they try to explain it away by saying that we'd never hear the difference...More BS....
 
Zero points for the BS FXpansion and they need a rocket for that one     
 
Anyway...If you ask Skit Skat nicely on FeeBay,you can get the upgrade for $94...
 
That's what I did  
 
 

DB can you really hear a difference between 20 and 24 bit audio?? 
I think you're being a bit harsh on fxpansion but I agree it's better to have the DVD version just so you can look at it  

I struggle to hear a difference between 16 and 24. I have both  BFD2 and  BFD Eco (the latter being 16 bit) and although I can hear a slight difference I'm not entirely sure whether it's down to the lack of bits or the extra velocity layers and mike channels.  

I guess I would need to do some extensive blindfold testing to see if I can tell which is which. Perhaps my ears aren't as well tuned as some.
Would probably explain why my mixing sucks :)


Steve

Just to make up for my absence from this thread (don't want to over compensate) Here's a recent Video Review  I just discovered that starts off ok but gets much better toward the end. 
I so wish I had the money to buy Geist, Tremor and a top of the range set of v-drums to play. 


Still I'd have to learn how to play them then. 


Steve

Starise


 
My only difficulty has been in finding the right kinds of midi to drive the engine for the type of material I sometimes work on. The loops in BFD2 are good no doubt,the problem lies more with me.
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Finding the right loop can be a real pain. Sometimes the more you have the worse it gets, but Groove Monkee have loops in various styles, with BFD mappings.