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BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
Just received an email from JRR SHOP with the BFD3 upgrade Preorder available.
BFD2 to BFD3 upgrade $149. Use the code "newsletter15" and it drops to $126.65
No info on when it will be available. I want it but think I will wait for a little more info.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/09 22:30:32
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Do you know anything about the new version?
All I can find is 'BFD3's interface has been revamped to be more ergonomic with a new mixer and sound browser for the easiest BFD experience yet."
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/09 22:46:59
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About the only thing I could find is on FXpansions' web site. It does mention 7 new kits but that is about the extent of it.
Hopefully we will be hearing more real soon.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/09 22:50:36
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Probably so, thanks for the heads up.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/09 23:27:43
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Yikes - the upgrade is more than I paid for BFD 2.  I got ECO in a $ 29 no brainier and purchased the upgrade to BFD 2 for, I think, $89 which represents a fantastic deal. I recall reading something about a cymbal swell feature in BFD3 which sounds interesting. I am also hoping for an improved interface, I am primarily a Toontrack user and I am finding the BFD 2 interface a bit cramped and less intuitive than Superior Drummer. From the blurb on JRR shop it seems that this has been addressed.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/09 23:35:23
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Glyn Barnes
Yikes - the upgrade is more than I paid for BFD 2. I got ECO in a $ 29 no brainier and purchased the upgrade to BFD 2 for, I think, $89 which represents a fantastic deal.
I recall reading something about a cymbal swell feature in BFD3 which sounds interesting. I am also hoping for an improved interface, I am primarily a Toontrack user and I am finding the BFD 2 interface a bit cramped and less intuitive than Superior Drummer. From the blurb on JRR shop it seems that this has been addressed.
Yup, right there with ya Glyn. That seems a little pricey at this point. I did read that the pattern editor has been improved... I really do enjoy the acoustic drum sounds though and the fact that you can import your own samples to use as a kit piece.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/09 23:47:27
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You can do swells in BFD Eco. The latest one anyway. Only the interface is less than awful so I only use it when I need swells.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/10 04:55:29
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Thanks for the heads-up rtucker55. Upgrade to BFD3 is a no-brainer for me. Purchased! Looking forward to the release. Hopefully it isn't far off.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/10 06:06:49
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I have Eco which to be honest I never use as the GUI is not to my liking - much prefer toontrack / Addictive / Slate.
Did anyone see the upgrade price from ECO to BDF3? I imagine it will be a lot of money so I shall not be bothering!
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/10 09:39:11
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You can do swells in BFD Eco. The latest one anyway. Only the interface is less than awful so I only use it when I need swells.
I'm not sure how you do cymbal swells in Eco and the manual says nothing about them but trust me, the cymbal swells in BFD3 are superb and nothing like BFD Eco. It's a completely different process and I don't know of any other product that can offer the same right now. As for the upgrade price, bearing in mind the upgrade from BFD1 to BFD2 was $125 6 or 7 years ago to have only risen by $24 is pretty good value for money. I'm not allowed to give any product details but as for the UI some will love it, some wont but if you've seen their other more recent products such as Tremor and Geist then I'd say it's more a move in that direction and is almost as big a change as was from BFD1 to BFD2. Personally I loved the look of BFD2, the mixer was bigger and clearer than any I had seen at that time and it was just, sexier IMHO Hopefully I haven't overstretched the terms of my NDA  Steve
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/10 09:42:08
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Upgrading for $127 at jrrshop sounds pretty good to me as you get 7 kits along with the upgrade. That's about 18 dollars a kit.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/10 09:46:21
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Upgrading for $127 at jrrshop sounds pretty good to me as you get 7 kits along with the upgrade. That's about 18 dollars a kit.
Ah yes, I forgot to mention the kits. They are stunning, perhaps not the variety of the BFD2 content but much better in detail. Ask Rail  Steve
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/10 10:09:03
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There is a checkbox in one of the dropdown menus. Either check it or uncheck it and it will cause the cymbals to act normal. Continuously vibrate after each hit rather than restart after each hit.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/10 10:33:24
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Are you quite sure ?
I have spent the last 10 minutes looking and don't see any drop down boxes.
I don't think even BFD2 has cymbal swell unless they are particular articulations that came with an expansion pack.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/10 10:41:38
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I'm positive. I used it. You have to use midi volume as well with it but it works great.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/10 14:33:49
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Looks like an interesting upgrade. I plan to look more into it. Thanks for the info.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/20 13:20:54
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Any idea of the release date?
I see there's an ad placed at Sweetwater listed as 'not in stock'.
No rush but am thinking for future backups.
Question for Beta testers:
Better doing a fresh install or upgrade over?
Also 55GB library, are these on top of BFD2 or the total of both including the upgrade?
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/20 13:43:44
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Not a beta tester but, have you seen this picture of the interface. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BFD3/addreviewOn windows you can hold Cntl and hit the plus key to make it much larger. Looks like there are 16 slots in the kit. I guessing that BFD3 will be a separate install so that BFD2 and ECO will still coexist. The samples library will be the new Kits so you will probably want to keep your old kits also. I think there are 3 different installs, depending on how much detail you want in the samples, the largest is 55GB. I believe the small install is only 18GB and the medium around 34GB.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/20 14:15:15
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OK, I'll try and answer some questions without giving too much away.
No official release date yet and although it was hoped to be early September that date has obviously passed by but I think it could be by the end of the month or early October but again, no date has been given yet so this is just my feeling. No software is ever released bug free are there are known issues so I'm guessing they will be putting out some updates shortly after release.
They have a new compression format that is amazing, the original core library was 160GB but with the new compression it is now 54GB with no loss of quality whatsoever.
I've been running it along side BFD2 and Eco and whilst you can load all your old kits in BFD3 you wont be able to load the new content in BFD2 or Eco.
If you have BFD2 then you have all the Eco kits anyway so you wouldn't need to use any of your Eco stuff with BFD3. Also you won't be able to load any BFD Eco presets in BFD3 but you will be able to load all your BFD2 presets and kits.
As for the 16 slots I'm not quite sure what the maximum is but it's a lot more than 16 (BFD2 was 32) that's just that particular kit in the picture that has 16.
Hope that's helped.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/20 14:30:41
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rtucker55
Not a beta tester but, have you seen this picture of the interface. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BFD3/addreview
On windows you can hold Cntl and hit the plus key to make it much larger. Looks like there are 16 slots in the kit.
I guessing that BFD3 will be a separate install so that BFD2 and ECO will still coexist. The samples library will be the new Kits so you will probably want to keep your old kits also. I think there are 3 different installs, depending on how much detail you want in the samples, the largest is 55GB. I believe the small install is only 18GB and the medium around 34GB.
Yes, I've seen the pics. I don't know for certain but I'm really only interested in using only BFD3 & not keeping older versions.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/20 14:31:50
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OK, I'll try and answer some questions without giving too much away.
No official release date yet and although it was hoped to be early September that date has obviously passed by but I think it could be by the end of the month or early October but again, no date has been given yet so this is just my feeling. No software is ever released bug free are there are known issues so I'm guessing they will be putting out some updates shortly after release.
They have a new compression format that is amazing, the original core library was 160GB but with the new compression it is now 54GB with no loss of quality whatsoever.
I've been running it along side BFD2 and Eco and whilst you can load all your old kits in BFD3 you wont be able to load the new content in BFD2 or Eco.
If you have BFD2 then you have all the Eco kits anyway so you wouldn't need to use any of your Eco stuff with BFD3. Also you won't be able to load any BFD Eco presets in BFD3 but you will be able to load all your BFD2 presets and kits.
As for the 16 slots I'm not quite sure what the maximum is but it's a lot more than 16 (BFD2 was 32) that's just that particular kit in the picture that has 16.
Hope that's helped.
Steve
Thanks for the info Steve. Does that mean if I choose a fresh install of BFD3 it includes the older BFD2 kits & samples? (Not interested in using ECO in BFD3)
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/20 17:58:09
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Thanks for the info Steve.
Does that mean if I choose a fresh install of BFD3 it includes the older BFD2 kits & samples?
(Not interested in using ECO in BFD3) No, it is a completely new library recorded by a very well known and highly respected third party who's name I shan't mention. If you have BFD2 then you can of course choose whether to add the BFD2 kits when you run the BFD3 scanner but not if you don't want to. Steve
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/20 18:23:46
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Thanks for the info Steve. Just thinking to myself, What a DL that is going to be... 2-3 days maybe 
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/21 04:31:55
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The download is 37.9 gig but unfortunately larger flash drives are either 32GB or 64GB with nothing in between so they had to go with the 64GB ones. I think the flash drives are a great idea, much better than discs although perhaps easier to lose But if you have space you could install the core data and then copy the 37.9GB installer to another drive, then you'll have a 64GB flash drive you can use. Steve
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/21 14:46:08
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I like the looks of the new GUI, hope it is re-sizable...
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/29 10:19:48
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I just bought bfd2 this summer. What percent, aprox. of new content would the BFD3 have? I also got contact this summer and have been using most of my time playing with that, I am just wondering how much of BFD3 is overlap of BFD2...hope this question makes sense
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/29 11:57:25
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I just bought bfd2 this summer. What percent, aprox. of new content would the BFD3 have? I also got contact this summer and have been using most of my time playing with that, I am just wondering how much of BFD3 is overlap of BFD2...hope this question makes sense
I don't believe that there is any overlap from the BFD2 samples. From what I understand, BFD3 has completely new samples consisting of seven new kits. About 55 GB of data, if memory serves. It will be able to load all the BFD2 kits as well.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/29 13:09:40
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Right no overlap. Great idea to get bfd2 now while you can and get 55 gb in drums in addition to the 140 ish gb(Pre lossless compression) in bfd 3.
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Re: BFD2 to BFD3 Upgrade - Preorders
2013/09/29 14:46:19
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thanks,I think I'll likely bite on this one ....now to find the best deal
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