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2018/05/01 17:48:56 (permalink)

BIG NEWS ABOUT DANTE PCIE COMPATIBILITY WITH CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB!! IT WILL WORK!

Hello everyone, this is Jacy Oliver (Jim's son) on behalf of the Oliver Music Studio and Potion Productions.
 
I spent days working closely with Noel Borthwick (Senior Manager Audio Core, Bandlab) and through running diagnostic tests, clever thinking, maxing out my CPU in the name of science, using the tips I've gathered over the last year and a half, and a bit of trial by error, Noel was able to pinpoint the issue at the root of this serious incompatibility with high performance audio over ethernet PCIe soundcards like the Focusrite Rednet PCIeR and other cards that share the Audinate chip set.
 
It appears that the Driver for the PCIe cards may not have been tested with a sample rate conformity call in the start up sequence of the ASIO Driver. That call was causing the driver of the PCIE card to duplicate threads until the CPU of the computer was Maxed Out! It shouldn't do that and more testing should be done by Audinates engineers since a sample rate call is a common and smart thing to add to a start sequence so that ASIO devices know what the project sample rate is.
 
For now i have a beta build from Noel that has that bit of code removed and it WORKS!!
Of course steps have to be taken to ensure that the build will be suitable for all other ASIO interfaces as well now that a step that has been in the code for 12 years has been removed in order to make this work. Since other DAWs also work with the gamut of ASIO enabled devices including Dante cards I'm sure its going to be a non issue!
 
Good things on the horizon for Cakewalk and those who wish venture to use the best!
Now that i have a working build i can continue testing but i gotta say that after a year and a half and thousands of dollars spent on Tech i couldn't use, IM VERY HAPPY WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF MY SYSTEM.
Im running tracking sessions at 1.3 MS ROUNDTRIP with a couple of basic plugins! Latency is no longer an issue and its freaky how instantaneous it is after being used to hearing 10-16 MS of latency from using usb or Virtual Soundcard. Plus now i have all the other many benefits of Dante!!
 
 Stay tuned and feel free to ask me any questions!
- Jacy
post edited by jimoliver - 2018/05/08 02:56:49
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Re: BIG NEWS ABOUT DANTE PCIE COMPATIBILITY WITH CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB!! IT WILL WORK! 2018/05/01 18:21:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby AT 2018/05/01 21:29:42
Good work from You and Noel tracking down the issue.

Many will benefit!

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Re: BIG NEWS ABOUT DANTE PCIE COMPATIBILITY WITH CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB!! IT WILL WORK! 2018/05/01 20:52:15 (permalink)
That is *very* refreshing news. For me, it opens up several opportunities. Good work!
 
 

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Re: BIG NEWS ABOUT DANTE PCIE COMPATIBILITY WITH CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB!! IT WILL WORK! 2018/05/01 23:05:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jimfogle 2018/05/02 23:56:06
Great, great!
As a "fly on the wall" (Jacy is a close friend and we live in the same city) I understand that Noel spent HOURS with Jacy on this issue: remoting in for Extended periods of time to track down a tricky issue....
  gotta say:   THAT'S customer support.....
did everyone see that roundtrip latency??
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Re: BIG NEWS ABOUT DANTE PCIE COMPATIBILITY WITH CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB!! IT WILL WORK! 2018/05/02 05:29:25 (permalink)
this is great news....I want to upgrade my interface at some point and will be looking at something other than usb for sure.
 
Well done everyone!

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Re: BIG NEWS ABOUT DANTE PCIE COMPATIBILITY WITH CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB!! IT WILL WORK! 2018/05/02 06:40:19 (permalink)
I’ve been using the Waves Soundgrid system which uses standard Gigabyte Ethernet for shifting data around including the offloading of Plugin processing by a DSP Server.

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Re: BIG NEWS ABOUT DANTE PCIE COMPATIBILITY WITH CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB!! IT WILL WORK! 2018/05/02 08:11:18 (permalink)
Will this likely benefit ASIO performance for other devices (presumably, this may be "good practice" but is clearly superfluous)?

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Re: BIG NEWS ABOUT DANTE PCIE COMPATIBILITY WITH CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB!! IT WILL WORK! 2018/05/02 23:01:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jimfogle 2018/05/02 23:55:39
I doubt it will benefit performance since its the high load was actually caused by a driver bug.
Its possible that it might improve compatibility for certain drivers but its hard to say.

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Re: BIG NEWS ABOUT DANTE PCIE COMPATIBILITY WITH CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB!! IT WILL WORK! 2018/05/08 02:48:57 (permalink)
Reply to poetnprophet

I was in the market as well back when I was running FireWire. I wanted to run on something Better ( I was also having clock sync issues with FireWire) and for me the only option was either to put do usb or aes or Dante. Only had one pcie port left on my comp so aes would have only given 8 channelsI... and with usb i would not have been able to use the 8 digital AES channels on the lynx. Dante solved this issue for me. Now I get 16 analog channels and 8 digital using my lynx aurora 16 with a Dante card and a Rednet PCIE card in the computer. I can also easily link more converters for more channels! Now that it’s workimg with Dante this system is perfect!
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Re: BIG NEWS ABOUT DANTE PCIE COMPATIBILITY WITH CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB!! IT WILL WORK! 2018/05/08 06:51:58 (permalink)
That is awesome and inspiring!  thanks for sharing :)

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Re: BIG NEWS ABOUT DANTE PCIE COMPATIBILITY WITH CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB!! IT WILL WORK! 2018/05/08 13:49:14 (permalink)
Kudos - thanks for sharing...

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Re: BIG NEWS ABOUT DANTE PCIE COMPATIBILITY WITH CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB!! IT WILL WORK! 2018/05/08 16:56:02 (permalink)
I totally see DANTE as the future. This is much needed!
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