BITWIG STUDIO 1.0 released

They might as well kiss there butt's goodbye..

From reading what this has to offer, the only thing "worthy" is Plugin Isolation.

@$399.00 I'm guessing it's not going to do well..but, what do I know...stranger
things have happened...

carl
Not very interested but I'm doing a HD restore this afternoon so I might try the demo.

I used it for a while during the Dev stage...it's ok...the color scheme is a little annoying to me...
it's a "decent" DAW...but I don't think they'll get $399 for it...maybe half that...to be in 
direct competition with FL and some of the others...but if they are trying to compete with
Studio One, Cubase, Sonar, Pro Tools, etc...they can forget it...they're not going to do well..

Bill
Agree entirely - whilst the "dollar" cost is a bit high, the main cost will be installing, getting to learn it, working through whatever bugs appear, upgrades - not for me at the moment I don't think, just too busy.
Nigel
 
 

Learning a new daw does not sound like anything but a waste of time. I've been thrilled Sonar X3. I may not even upgrade it for a few years.

Bigwig and Ableton Live excel in loop based, sample live performance.
 
Many performers at live gigs use Ableton to control lighting, video as well as using contollers to play samples or even entire songs.
 
I don't see Bigwig or Ableton Live taking over the linear studio production that ProTools, Sonar etc use - I don't see that as the purpose or main focus of Bigwig or Ableton.
 
If your a DJ or need something to control everything while on stage Ableton Live was key and now Bigwig offers a newer different approach.
 
The price point of $399 seems high for home based studio musicians but a couple of live gigs and it pays for itself and isn't that high a price if you need those feature sets.
 
I have Ableton Live and use it as a big old sampler to manipulate samples and loops easier than working in Reason 7, ProTools or Sonar.  It's another tool in my toolbox. 
 
I don't think I will jump on a v1.0 release but if they offer a 50% off at some point I would jump ship from Ableton Live as I don't like some of the workflow that has been implemented in Live 9.

More detailed information here: http://www.bitwigtutorials.net/
 
Looks a lot like SONAR, doesn't it? Although I couldn't find anything about multi-timbral samplers, meaning multiple separate MIDI and audio tracks. All I see are instrument tracks. Seems to be oriented toward looping and matrix-view type composing, but that may be a reflection of where they see their primary audience.

I, personally, think Reaper is a knock out....

For the money and the footprint and the features...you can't beat it...
it doesn't come with "fluff" to get you to buy...just a solid performing DAW...

X3 is still my interface and workflow champ..and, as of right now, it's been very stable...
so, they ARE making strides...so, that definitely is in Cakes favor...

Bitwig was just kinda clumsy and awkward for me...granted I could learn to live with it...
But WHY?  And for 5 times the price of Reaper?  Hmmmm...no....I don't think so ...

I'm waiting for one of these guys to "knock it out of the park"  If I could get all the features
of Cubase and X3 in ONE package, with Stability....SOLD....

But I'm not holding my breathe....

I really didn't think Bitwig would come out before Sampletank 3 but now that Bitwig has been released, maybe IK Multimedia can hire their coders help get Sampletank 3 out the door...
just sayin...

I think it has some nice features coding-wise, which already Bit mentioned.  That stuff is pretty cool in my book.   But as for general use as a DAW?  Well, I downloaded the demo and will give it a whirl, but I don't really expect to be blown away since there are no multi-output synths, no MIDI tracks per se (I think), it's handling of MIDI hardware seems a bit spotty, etc.  Especially at its asking price!   Although, for Live users it's right in the ballpark...  
 
 

John

bapu

John
I don't consider no distinction between tracks and buses a feature. To me its very confusing. Add to that no distinction between MIDI tracks and audio tracks and the confusion is upgraded.

Have you (at least) not tried Reaper?
 
They also have no distinction between tracks and buses.
 
It takes looking at the paradigm differently, that's all.
 
Can't teach old dogs new tricks, eh?

I own a license for Reaper.  

So do I but it doesn't mean I'm hip to it's idiosyncrasies.
 
Reaper's great but it's a bit of a wailing wall of a DAW in that incorporates anything and everything anyone can shout for in the way of features making it confusing for all but the very persistent types that finally get to master it.
 
Bitwig while it looks to have some innovation and strategy gone into it along with some well implemented stuff is failing for me largely because it has clearly over promised and under delivered. 
 
It's a niche DAW yet it's inter communication abilities with other apps is apalling, no Rewire is a disaster given the type of tool it is and the suggestion to use Jack is nothing short of a joke.  Ever tried working with Jack on Windows?  Even if you do jump through that hoop there's no way of syncing two apps except via midi.
 
The much publicised network collaboration features and it's Max style modularity are now pencilled in for V2, in other words you'll be paying for another upgrade before you get those.
 
The leaness of it at this stage would have been excusable for a new DAW to market if what was there worked properly and as advertised but this thing is facing a public onslaught because so much of it is broken, it's making Sonar's X1 look like a smooth release and we all know how that REALLY was given a bit of time and distance away from it so as not to cause us to get all defensive about it today...
 
I've got a funny feeling the well catered for Windows and Mac users will likely die off in the short-term, after all the 'new DAW' hoo ha, and maybe the development it gets due to the Linux demand over the long-term may indeed see it emerge as a ground-breaker in the end and may even make Linux itself a viable platform for music creation.
 
I ain't writing it off yet, nor will I be buying it anytime soon.
 
btw does anyone know if the code base is built on Java, in order that it is cross platform capable?  In which case expect to see some mobile computing spin offs from it while they use the 'big app' as a test bed for smaller ones.