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Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
I injured my back last June, lifting equipment after a gig. It's been a nuisance ever since, but a week ago it took a turn for the worse. The pain is excruciating. There is no position that doesn't hurt. Going on four days now with almost no sleep. Doc gave me Percocet on Friday, which dulls the pain for a little while, but I only have enough to last through tomorrow. After that, I don't know what I'll do. I'm supposed to be getting an MRI, but I don't know when. They just said "don't call us, we'll call you". Fingers crossed it'll be today that they call. "Managed" health care, you know. Meanwhile, I need to hear some success stories. Tell me you've been through this and got better. Tell me you didn't become a codeine addict in the process. Tell me there's an end game that doesn't involve a high bridge or firearms. (J/K, at least for now.) Please, no gloating from those living in Canada, France, Great Britain, Denmark, Germany, Belgium, Japan, Cuba or anywhere else in the civilized world where health care and bankruptcy aren't part of the same program.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
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Hi Bit, Sorry to hear about your pain. I've been doing leg lifts, squats, and lots of leg stretching but it isn't effective at counter acting sitting at a computer. So, I hike and ride a bicycle a bit too. I was limping a bit too much this fall because of an ankle injury coupled with a lifelong leg length discrepancy and it finally tweaked my back and it seemed like it would never go away. I finally figured out I had to ignore my ankle pain (which really took a suck it up)... restore my stride (the one with the 2 length legs) and get my back, back happy. It worked. In general I am strong like ox, but I've gotten stiffer and stiffer in between exertion sessions and that makes it seem more difficult. I don't have any actual advice because of the obvious fact that it's your back... but I am here to tell you that you can make it better once the first steps are managed carefully with your doctor. Did I mention I was once smashed to smithereens by a Ford Van? My skull, neck, and back have been tender ever since. :-) I avoid pain meds etc and just try to stay healthy by working and playing. I hope you find some relief. all the best, mike
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 10:43:03
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My daughter suffers with a bad back from time to time; she's been horse-riding since a very early age and has developed very strong back muscles, but they can lock-up with no warning. Two things give her instant relief - the local chiropractor and occasional acupuncture.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 10:45:52
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It's so odd to hear bad stories about health care. I've never had any problem getting in to a doctor for an x-ray, mri, ultrasound or anything like that. Actually, I've had the opposite experience. I was forced to go right away and was not allowed to leave. My left leg was swollen, still is, been going on 2 ~ 3 years. The doctor thought it was a blood clot and sent me to the hospital immediately. They said if they found anything I would not be allowed to leave. I even argued with them and told them they'd have to call the police to keep me there and said they would if they had to. From the time I made the appointment for the doc to the time he scheduled me for the ultrasound and was released from the hospital ... 4 hours, maybe? Maybe I got spoiled living in Iowa. It really was a great place to live. As for the back pain, I've suffered with it since I was a kid and have just become used to the pain. I'm dead set against taking pain pills, antibiotics, or any meds unless I'm down flat on my back. I had a bicycle accident when I was 14 and screwed my back up. Couldn't walk for a couple weeks, and still can't stand up straight because of the pain. Hope everything turns out well for you. Hopefully it's just a pinched nerve somewhere and it will work it's way out. I've done that a few times too.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 10:52:17
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Iowa is the birth place of my favorite branch of Chiropractic Medicine. http://www.palmer.edu/ Don't ask me how I know. :-)
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
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I have been there Bit. I posted here not long ago about a similar problem. I feel for ya, its no fun at all. In my case It was early in the morning before my muscles got into shape and I was throwing a metal antennae mast away. I must have just turned the wrong way and been holding it wrong when I turned to throw it. I felt something pop in my back and for two weeks after that I was practically an invalid. My problem was around the L4,L5 region of my back. The pain was constant and severe, to the point that if I tried to walk even a short distance I almost couldn't bear it. I literally had to crawl to the bathroom for awhile and needed to shave laying on the floor looking at a hand mirror. Standing was next to impossible. For a week after that I mostly limped on one leg for no more than 15 or 20 feet before even that was unbearable. Heres the good news- if your problem is a ruptured or split disk the problem will improve over time naturally. What commonly happens is the "jelly" in the disk squashes out or the disk becomes compacted or wedged the wrong way allowing the nerves in the back to be pinched. The disks themselves will regenerate and heal. This is what happened to me and after about three weeks things started to heal and get back to normal. No doc or chiropractor really helped. It was all my body healing itself. They can re-align your spine though and hopefully that will happen. If you have someone that can bring you food and have no need to go anywhere I would stay off of it as much as possible until they can see you. My injury was also one of those things that re occurs every so often. I was determined not to let them cut me unless it was the very last resort. The docs see so many patients that I think they sometimes jump right to a cookie cutter diagnosis like back surgery. The percentages of long term success with back surgey are not all that great overall. I remember those nights of constant pain and not sleeping all too well. No matter which way you turn the pain is still there. Things will get better bit but the wait to heal can be rough. I am now completely ok and I thought I would need a wheelchair the rest of my life.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 11:07:23
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You don't become an addict if you take opiates for pain. You may become dependent but you wont all of a sudden become someone who uses more and more like an addict. You need to talk to the doctor and get more meds to carrry you through until you get the MRI and then get on a better med. I would not, personaly, opt for surgery. There is a Canadian based forum for those of us with chronic pain. http://chronicpainsite.com/mb/ good people and good advice. For me, I find that vicoprofen workd better than percocet and I am more comfortable with long term ibuprofen use than with long term APAP use. There is also Roxycodone, it is percocet without the tylenol. It is IR (immediate release). If you stay with oxycdone you'll want to talk to the Dr about oxycontin and roxies, for breakthrough pain. Personally, and with some others I have talked to, I prefer just to use the vicoprofen because I have bad days and better days... so I am not stuck with something that I have to stay with the same dose everyday and night. I have been on time released opiates and they really work (if you have something for breakthrough pain... like vicoprofen). I have been on Avenza (ER mrphine 90mg a day), Duragesic (fentanyl 5ug per hour, patch delivery, not good if you are hairy and may come off if you sweat too much... can over relese if you get too hot) they do work though; Nucynta ER (works but I didn't like the side effects); Butrans patch (worthless waste of time). I am back on the vicoprofen x5 a day and Lyrica 50mg x2 a day. The Lyrica really helps with nerve pain but not with muscle pain. There is also gabapenten (sp?) it is kin to Lyrica. I got leg cramps from it. Lyrica, with some people makes the feet swell and in most people causes a little weight gain but some people take 600mg and more a day. Cymbalta works great for nerve pain but I had a rare side effect that I didn't like... but it worked really well on the spine pain. My pain gets worse if I exert myself too much (the next day can get out of control) also a low pressure weather system moving in makes me hurt more. So, on better days I take less so that on bad days I have extra.... but in 10 years I have never run out of my meds. A pain management clinic will likely subject you to random pee tests so smoking pot is off limits unless it is legitimate in WA. Actually, if it is available there as medicine, it may work for you. For me, for now.. I am staying with the Vicoprofen/Lyrica, I aslo take klonopin and fioricet in the afternoon around 3:00, it helps too. Fioricet is usually prescribed for headaches but is a general pain killer, I also have Cephadyn because the fioricet has caffiene but other wise they are the same except the cephadyn has 500mg of APAP while the fioricet has 325mg. I also have to take extra ibuprofen sometimes.... but it is what works for me. I'll also tell you this. People who do not have chronic pain are not very sympathetic... but pain will rule and ruin your life if you don't get help. The doctors have the DEA looking over their shoulder so they have to put you through a few loops but you can get help and NO... you wont become an addict, unless you already are. Just be honest with the doctors. They will help you and this is VERY important... if you don't like a doctor or if a doctor is not helping you... find a new doctor. No one cares about your health more than you do and ultimately it is YOU wh is responsible for getting the care you need. I wish you well. Now I have to get ready to go to the dentist to get a crown.... ugh! Julien
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 11:12:24
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After decades of fighting and 100s of meds, The VA gave me a Tens Unit and my Physician has me on Medical Marihuana. Nothing is a cure and all you can do is hope for something that will distract the mind and body from what is really going on until surgical procedures can help, ( but that usually creates MORE pain ) I refuse to destroy my liver any further with any type of drug they think will help when a natural herb and a little electricity makes it bearable. (Im tired of the annual liver biopsies that I have to have because of meds) I wish you the best in finding what will help!!!
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 11:44:56
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Sorry to hear about the back pain, Bit. I've been there, and I can tell you it can get better. For me, it took a regimen of medications to get past the worst spell and then a series of visits to a skilled physical therapist. I've had chronic back issues, punctuated by occasional episodes of excruciating pain, for many years. But it has now been over 10 years (knock on wood) since my last bad episode. In the meantime, I've been doing a home exercise program that focuses on flexibility and strengthening core muscles. It takes about a half hour every other day. That's a lot of time and a lot of work, but for me it has meant no surgery and no drugs stronger than the occasional ibuprofen. Of course, what worked for me won't necessarily work for someone else, but I wanted to let you know there can be light at the end of the tunnel. Good luck to you.
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2012/12/03 11:51:30
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After the MRI they will see what is wrong and then fix it. Not only will they make the pain go way. But you will be in even better shape. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to build the world's first bionic man. Bitfllipper will be that man. Better than he was before. Better, stronger, faster.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 12:03:48
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I've had lower back issues for 20 years. Sometimes I'll be fine for weeks and then it comes on and I'll be in pain for a few weeks. I've never taken any pain medication for it. It's alternates between a dull ache and shooting pains. I know what it can be like when all you can think about is the pain and you can't concentrate on anything else. You feel crabby, irritable and downright volatile. I think mine is either sciatic or piriformis related, because doing piriformis stretches every day after some exercise has helped it a lot. I would look into what kind of stretches could be good for your particular problem, if applicable. A lot of back pain is made worse by tight hamstrings or weak abdominal muscles. It also helps to exercise your pelvic floor muscle (the muscle which you use to stop peeing) because it provides a lot of support. If your pain is the result of an injury then stretches and exercises might not cure it but they can deliver some improvement, take the edge off and make it manageable. By the way I wouldn't be too jealous about those "other countries." Every system has its ups and downs. When I had skin cancer and was told by my specialist in New York that I'd have to have surgery within 6 weeks otherwise it might spread to my lymph system, I inquired back home to see about having it done for free on the British NHS. I was told that I might wait anywhere up to 12 weeks to have the surgery. By which time, my chances of survival would have been significantly lower. So I had it done in New York and paid for it (I didn't have insurance). When I asked how soon I could have it done they asked "when are you next free?"
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 13:00:02
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Thank you everyone for the words of encouragement. Really. I knew that many others suffer from similar symptoms but it's good to hear from them. It can seem pretty hopeless at 3:00 in the morning and you haven't slept in days and the pain just won't quit. Things are looking up and I'm feeling more optimistic (although it could be the drugs). I got a message through to my doctor and I think he'll refill my pain pills, so that's a load off. Unfortunately, I cannot schedule the MRI because I don't know the makes and models of the three cardiac stents I've been carrying around in my heart since 2001. Consequently, I'm devoting today to tracking down that information. Between phone calls and hospital hold music, I plan on listening to every post in the Songs forum for the past month. Janet's beautiful piano piece was just the ticket. Now a little julibee therapy and I'll be set.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 13:02:55
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No personal experience, but someone I know had similar problems for a long while that nothing seemed to work on. He had been having cortisone injections for quite sone time just to be able to work, but this was obviosusly not a good long term solution. When all else seemed to have failed someone suggested he try sleeping on a water bed instead of his regular one. Having nothing to lose, he tried it and it did the trick. I think he rented one at first, but bought once he knew it was working. Dunno if you can rent such things where you are, but maybe worth looking into ?
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2012/12/03 13:15:28
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Sorry to hear about your back, Bit. It's not like you can just not use your back for awhile, is it? I had chronic back pain since I was a young kid. I went to doctors and chiropractors and everybody helped to some degree or another. In the end, I had to accept that a certain amount of pain is inevitable and to live with what I can tolerate. I have family members who have injured a disc and have had surgery to treat it. The surgery helped and now it's a matter of pain management. As you know, it often comes down to a balancing act with medications. One will kill your liver while another will kill your kidneys, etc. A good pain management specialist should help to find the right combination of meds for you along with physical therapy, chiropractors, massage therapy, etc. It helps to take the long view because progress can seem slow or nonexistent at times. Hang in there and I hope you can get the info you need to schedule your MRI. Once your doc has that, everyone can speak a little more intelligently about it.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 13:17:52
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Also there are good things being said at the moment about turmeric for its anti-inflammatory properties in helping people deal with pain, including back pain. Might be worth seeking out the concentrated extract capsules. Sometimes it comes with bromelain - the two work in tandem. Ginger is another one. I make a strong ginger tea when I'm going through a bout of my pain and it seems to help.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 13:24:25
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Sorry for your pain bitflipper, I've been there and I know how easy it is to be incapacitated by back pain. Who would of thought that lifting an arm could cause pain in ones back. In my case I was trying to undo a lug nut on a flat tire, I went down immediately and was lying on the ground not moving at all hoping maybe my neighbors would see me when they got up. After an hour or so I was able to get up and into the house with alot of pain, IIRC it took about an hour to get up the stairs. My primary care doc also specializes in sports medicine and when I finally got in to see him he did the usual synth-heroin perscription and demanded that I walk a minimum of one hour per day. I was semi fortunate in that I tend to be physically active anyway so it wasn't too difficult to follow his instructions once I was stoned out of my mind pain. Walking was supposed to be followed up with gentle stretching exercises which I did. After a week or so I was off the meds and not feeling any pain so in my case it all worked out. Assuming you haven't physically damaged any discs or your skeletal structure I would hope that this would work for you. Anywho, hope you feel better I know how tough it can be. Regards,
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 14:32:07
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Please, no gloating from those living in Canada, France, Great Britain, Denmark, Germany, Belgium, Japan, Cuba or anywhere else in the civilized world where health care and bankruptcy aren't part of the same program. Healthcare in Canada, yeah, right... :s Wanna hear a good one? In late 2000, I broke my back at work. I went home, hoping that some rest would help. Had to call in sick the next 2 days, and on the second day, I went to the hospital. I came in at 1 pm and managed to see a doctor past midnight. Staying seated for just 5 minutes was very painful, I'll let you imagine what those 11 hours on an uncomfortable hospital chair did to me. The doctor's verdict - bad injury, and I would need to see a physiotherapist. When he told me how much that would cost me and that there was no way to tell how many appointments it'd take (could be one, could be twenty), I realized that I just couldn't afford the treatment. I was working for minimum wage, had no insurances, etc. Plus the doctor told me I couldn't go back to work for a while, so, no income. I went back to my employer and explained the situation. Their answer was that - 1: they were letting me go because they didn't need someone w/ a broken back in the warehouse. 2: I had waited too long to go to the doctor and that they wouldn't allow me to get any form of compensation from the basic public insurance (CSST as we call back home). And being fired, I didn't have access to employment insurance either. My only option was public welfare. Which was a total disgrace. I had had to go that low once before, for a month. Another glorious chapter. I was looking for a job in a new city we had just moved to. I had no revenue, but the in-laws were helping for the first few months since we had moved there so that my (ex) wife could study. But the government demanded that I continue paying my own student load right away. When I told them about my situation, and that it'd be just for a month or two, they told me that the only way they could exempt me from payment was if I was on welfare. In other words, the only way for them to cut me a slack was if I asked them for money. Makes a lot of sense... So for a month I had been on welfare. The government had sent one big fat check my way - $178 for the month. So when the opportunity to cash in on the system again presented itself, I passed on it and took a few gigs writing music for documentaries and such. But these were few and far between. My (ex) wife and I split. Obviously... And that's how I ended up living in a walk-in over at my friends' place. Otherwise, I'd be on the street. That's how wonderful it really is in Canada. There's a safety net - but there are definitely holes big enough in it for one to pass through. On a positive note - my back got better on its own, though it isn't totally fixed. But once I was a bit better, training and exercises helped re-inforce it.
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2012/12/03 14:39:09
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Late to the game Dave, but I pulled my lower back out, some 28 years ago, reaching for a pencil on a desk. Seriously. I was laid up for two weeks and sought Chiropractic help. He's been my Dr. for all that time. I only now see him for neck stress maybe twice a year (used to be more than that with headaches but Daryl's sister helped me out with those). I just know not to overwork my back these days. And yes I do, but rarely to excruciating pain. WRT to my back, I know my limits. Song plugs? Now that's another story altogether.
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2012/12/03 14:51:21
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I can only say- be very careful with narcotic pain meds. I was on the stuff for quite a while a few years back and I really didn't take any more than directed, but lets just say I was on multiple different versions and not minimalist doses. I would wake up at like 5 AM every morning and feel like I couldn't breathe. I didn't realize at the time (I was in bad shape after spending almost a month in the hospital and then rehab), but you stop breathing when you OD. It wasn't until a few months later when I asked my doctor whether it would be OK to have a glass of wine with dinner at Thanksgiving while on the meds that I realized what had been happening: Dr.: Alcohol isn't a good idea. Me: What happens? Dr.: You stop breathing. Me: Gee, I like breathing...
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 16:44:03
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I had similar problems until I got on a regular schedule of appointments with a chiropractor. He gave me a back brace to wear which fixed my problem in just a few minutes....Another time I had neck & back injuries and seen a different chiropractor, after a couple of months of visits, I'm happy to report 99% of the pain and problems are gone. I still go into see him once a week for maintenance and everything is just fine now. Regular medical doctors didn't have a clue how to fix the problem, they just give you pain medications to cover it up.
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2012/12/03 16:52:45
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3:00 in the morning and you haven't slept in days and the pain just won't quit. Bit, that is what people don't understand. I started with physical therapy, chiropractic, then epidurals. The epidurals gave me flareups of excema... three days of relief sandwiched inbetween three weeks of something like poison ivy roaming around on my body. Ive tried most everything and the meds just work best for me. You may find something else but opiates are natural and they work. It is the tylenol and ibuprofen that the government allows over the counter that will kill your liver and especially kidneys (the APAP, tylenol). Of course I have to take meds to help sleep too. IF I take pain meds after 6:00 PM, I will lay awake at night. I take melatonin, 1mg klonopin, and have worked up to 8mg of tizanidine (Zanaflex). It is a muscle relaxer and when you first take it 2mg will knock you out. I usually get a good nights sleep, sometimes if the weather is bad I have to put a lidicane patch on my hip and one on my back. I also have Voltarin gel... it works good for joint pain and doesn't tend to get into your system, so they tell me. The thing is... people take some of these drugs and say. "I can't take this stuff". ..but after a few days you get used to it. I don't feel a thing when I take two or even three Vicoprofen... except pain relief. Also it is schedule 3 instead of schedule 2 like oxy. They say oxy works better but that has not been my experience. There is also and ER version of hydromorphone called Exalgo. It is a 24 hour pill like the Avenza and there is oxymorphone which I really don't know anything about. Hydromorphone is an ER version of Dilaudid, which you can take as breakthrough meds if you get on Exalgo... but I have been through most all of it and like I said, for me just the immediate release meds like vicoprofen work better because I can control it... 3 or 4 on a good day 6 or 7 one a really bad day but I've found that anything over 7 and I don't get any more relief. I hope you find some relief because when you hurt all the time... you cannot make anyone understand, not even some pain management doctors. Other people with chronic pain do understand. I hope you read some on the forum link. Julien
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 17:08:47
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David I feel for you. I'm very sorry I don't have any suggestions for pain relief or healing. I know the pain. I wish you didn't.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 17:46:39
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Seriously; I read the title and immediately thought; Move to Colorado. I remember I had a health issue and was having regular amounts of nature's green; it was really powerful stuff and when visiting the doctor whilst under the influence he was amazed that I did not have that much pain at all. I was so out of it I just looked at him; my eyes all red and I replied; but I can't remember what I said. I can't take regular pain killers such as; Ibuprofen and other similar but more powerful prescription medications because they all cause internal bleeding in the stomach and lower intestine, so for me there is only one other choice and it's got to be really strong stuff! Also; get really good mattress and chairs. Posture is also very important! Take care!
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 18:55:29
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Instead of pain meds I'd suggest booze. No, I'm serious... I've dealt with every different kind of back pain and have seen endless arrays of doctors, chiropractors, accupunturists, etc. None of the various meds I've tried have ever given me much relief. The best relief I've gotten is from wine, I suggest white wine my favorite is pino grigio. Beer doesn't work fast enough, hard alcohol messes you up, but of glass of pino grigio for the warm fuzzy feeling, numbs the pain, makes everything better. Anyway it works for me. Don't discount it until you've tried it...
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 19:09:48
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Hi Bit I'm one of those lucky ones that have been spared any kind of back pain so far. I don't have to look around very far to notice there are many chronic sufferers even in a land where there is state funded healthcare available. All I can do is wish for some speedy and effective relief from your discomfort hopefully by listening to some of the suggestions here by those in the know will help bring about that process. All the best with that one.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 19:16:39
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I have gone into my chiropracter in a wheel chair and walked out pain free in less than 30 minutes. Give it a try.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 19:23:00
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Forget the percs. They do nothing. Get some muscle relaxers. If your doc won't prescribe any flexiril or baclofen then just snag some OTC Robaxacet from the pharmacy. Also ice and heat. Hot baths are great. If it is a slipped disc (which it sounds like) try to lay on your stomach for at least ten minutes whenever you can... especially before bed. That will help push the disc back into place (actually pushing yourself upwards creating a curve in your lower back is the full exercise but I don't want you to hurt yourself). PAY A PHYSIOTHERAPIST to take a look at you and maybe hook you up to TENS unit for a while. Massage therapy is great as well. You do need the MRI and to see a specialist to figure out if and how badly the disc is slipped and which one it is. They may recommend surgery but physiotherapy has the same success rate as the surgery and you are less likely to relapse. It's just a little more time consuming. I've got a ton more advice I could give you but that's a good start. To get it down to basics... Muscle relaxers/Ibuprofen (Advil) NOT percocet or tylonol or aspirin. Ice then heat then ice then heat. Get some physiotherapy if at all possible. Lay perfectly flat and straight for extended periods when possible. If possible lay flat and straight on your stomach. Take a loooong hot bath before bed. Drink lots of water. ... okay so that might be a little more but that's how you want to deal with this. Good luck and feel better.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 19:28:45
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6 months of excruciating pain in my shoulder. sleeping in a lawn chair as that is the only position that helped a little. Duck taping a heating pad on me as to maintain contact while I tried to sleep (blisters from that helped refocus the pain). Went to physical therepay (mostly a joke IMO) Finally went to another doctor. He hit me with Quartazone. Pain gone.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 19:38:48
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Get an inversion table Bitflipper. 15 minutes a day at 45 degrees.
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Re:Back pain: I'm desperate to hear some success stories
2012/12/03 21:14:43
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Lots of water and stay away from Tylenol is good advice. Opiates are still god if you have a doctor who will allow you to find the balance between enough and too much because that is the only way they will do the job. I like muscle relaxers in the evening but if you have nerve pain they wont help. Some people have muscle pain and others have a disk putting pressure on a nerve... in that case you need either painkillers or surgery. I wish weed was an option here and while we are on "alternative" botanicals... shrooms are GREAT painkillers. Nat Geo did a series called Drugs Inc. They had a segment on cluster headaches. One guy was completely disabled by them, horrible headaches every day. He takes a few grams (I don't remember the dose) of dried pscylicibin fungi once a month or every 6 weeks and has NO headaches inbetween his "self medication". I don't blame him for it... he went from being able to do nothing to having a normal life except for about 6 hours every month or so... worth the risk I'd say. Another woman with cluster headaches only had to handle them to get relief. We REALLT need the prudes in charge of us all to step back and take another look at some substances. It shouldn't be in a bottle next to the vitamins but anything that grows belongs to us all I think. J
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