davdud101
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Bad grammar and I
I'm no grammar genius, but does anybody notice how often people destroy the use of "and I" vs "and me" in the English language? I think American public schools have a tendency to say "ALWAYS 'and I' " without really giving a reason, and NEVER really teaching the alternative. Thing is (I'm sure you guys know this): - "and I" replaces where you'd put "I"; [Bob and I went to the store]
- "and me" replaces "me"; [Here's a picture of Bob and me]
It's just a common error that seems to get made ALL the time.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 17:00:17
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I thought this title was going to be the name of your new band.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 17:03:48
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 17:05:09
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WE NEED MORE SPELLING NAZIS.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 17:14:21
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 17:14:30
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English being my second language, I don't see the issue here. Anyone?
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 17:18:00
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My pet peeve is the rampant convolving of "bring" and "take". Not to mention the abomination that is "brung". "That" versus "which" bugs me, too, but it's sufficiently gray to let it slide. batsbrew, you mis-spelled "SPELLING". It should have been spelled "G-R-A-M-M-A-R", as that is the thread topic. You're welcome. (clicks heels and salutes)
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 17:24:32
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Rain English being my second language, I don't see the issue here. Anyone?
I fink he's makin the point that mericans don't teach proper English. English people already know this, but it's certainly refreshing to hear from a US citizen who actually cares. Your English is actually so good, that I mostly forget that it's not your native tongue and is a credit to you. By way of being seen to make a reciprocal effort I would just like to say.. le singe est sur l'arbre.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 17:37:41
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What gets me is when someone uses the word "less" when it should have been "fewer." If I could see that less, I would have fewer times when I would be irritated.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 17:49:32
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2015/04/13 17:50:23
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2015/04/13 17:51:12
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 17:51:44
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(HTH  )
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 17:56:23
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(Just to give the other side their due.  )
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 18:04:48
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I am forever barred from complaining about any and all of the examples of bad grammar I see and hear. For once, a very long time ago, when I was a lad I eagerly regaled a few friends about a new book I had just finished that I (genuinely) both enjoyed immensely and found intellectually stimulating on the atrocious state of the English language. Its author was the famous film critic and curmudgeon, John Simon. And the book was entitled, "Paradigms Lost". Only, as I had not yet read Milton's tome to which the title paid homage, and quite plainly did not "get it", I pronounced it Pair-ah-Dijums Lost. It remains one of the true horrors and nadirs of my life and shall forever be both "a stone in my shoe" and a reminder of what it truly feels like to be hoist on ones own pitard. In short, it stings.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 18:23:25
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2015/04/19 09:57:13
I sometimes feel like the only person who distinguishes it's from its. Also putting apostrophes after an 's' to show plural possession as in "My parents' house," and to indicate the possessive of a name which ends in 's' as in "James' guitar."
I'm shocked at how many people are substituting "of" for "have" these days, e.g. "I shouldn't of done that."
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 18:25:38
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yorolpal I am forever barred from complaining about any and all of the examples of bad grammar I see and hear. For once, a very long time ago, when I was a lad I eagerly regaled a few friends about a new book I had just finished that I (genuinely) both enjoyed immensely and found intellectually stimulating on the atrocious state of the English language. Its author was the famous film critic and curmudgeon, John Simon. And the book was entitled, "Paradigms Lost". Only, as I had not yet read Milton's tome to which the title paid homage, and quite plainly did not "get it", I pronounced it Pair-ah-Dijums Lost. It remains one of the true horrors and nadirs of my life and shall forever be both "a stone in my shoe" and a reminder of what it truly feels like to be hoist on ones own pitard. In short, it stings.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 18:37:11
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sharke I sometimes feel like the only person who distinguishes it's from its. Also putting apostrophes after an 's' to show plural possession as in "My parents' house," and to indicate the possessive of a name which ends in 's' as in "James' guitar."
I'm shocked at how many people are substituting "of" for "have" these days, e.g. "I shouldn't of done that."
I think most of this comes from two areas now: First, the parents of the current generation of online kids were never forced to actually learn what they needed to in school. There's was a lot of this entitlement or self-esteem B.S. going on where the teachers were told not make things too hard or fail a child because it would hurt their feelings. Now those kids are parents and the children aren't being corrected by them so they don't realize they're wrong. The second area, which is probably part of the first, is that both in the media and among themselves they hear the same incorrect grammar which reinforces the poor behavior.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 18:47:46
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There are far more important issues in life to be concerned about. Bad grammar isn't one of them There are millions of people born with mild autism, or due to a terrible accident -- they may initially look fine to you and I, but have terrible issues coping with school (learning and peers) - sadly this continues throughout their life in general. I have met some of the most kindhearted people who are either mildly or severely autistic, some have a natural talent for arts and music. As a young kid, I performed (piano/vocal) with many other kids (talent group of various musicians and dancers) to raise money for the disadvantage and for other charities. I did not do well at school (won't elaborate), an unfortunate part of my family's genes (I rather not talk about here). I most certainly do know first-hand what it is like to be subjected to prejudice and bullying. But that didn't not stop me from pursuing a professional career in music. All my entire life -- music has been a source of great enjoyment and reward for me.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 19:30:36
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True, there are things far worse than using bad grammar. Listening to rap for example.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/13 19:44:40
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craigb True, there are things far worse than using bad grammar. Listening to rap for example. 
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/14 08:40:29
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/04/14 08:55:50
I used to have a good grammar. Sometimes, people asked me if I had a great grammar. I'd just say, "Well, I think so, but I don't like to brag. Besides, I wouldn't want her to start gettin' all uppity."
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/14 08:51:57
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I often see the word "worse" used incorrectly whereas they should be using "worst". "worse" is used when comparing two of something. One is worse than the other one. "worst" is used when comparing three or more of something. One is the worst of the three or more.
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2015/04/14 08:54:08
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UbiquitousBubba I used to have a good grammar. Sometimes, people asked me if I had a great grammar. I'd just say, "Well, I think so, but I don't like to brag. Besides, I wouldn't want her to start gettin' all uppity."
How old is your great gramma?
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/14 09:14:00
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Let's put it this way. When I was 5 or 6, she and I would watch the Lawrence Welk show on their black and white TV. Other than that, I don't think anyone ever dared ask her for her age. Well, they never asked a second time. Whenever anyone asked my grandfather for that info, he'd suddenly have somewhere else to be.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/14 10:44:30
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Every Christmas eve, my grammar seems to get in some altercation when too much egg-nog is involved.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/14 11:02:16
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/04/14 11:20:08
Germany, 1942. Hitler is being updated on the latest productivity figures. "Sir, we are mining too many useless ores." *Hitler rubs chin* "So mine less." [Grammar Nazi busts in] "MINE FEWER" [Hitler looks up] “Yes?"
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/14 11:16:47
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I've mined a few ores in my time...can't say any of em were useless. But seriously folks, I'll be here till next Thursday...don't forget to tip your bartenders and waitresses.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/14 12:07:14
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sharke
I'm shocked at how many people are substituting "of" for "have" these days, e.g. "I shouldn't of done that."
That's the one that really irritates me. My own daughter does it, and I cringe.
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Re: Bad grammar and I
2015/04/14 12:09:50
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That is, literally, the worst thing ever. You know? It's like, literally, worse than using the word Literally when you really mean Figuratively. Literally.
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