Baffled? Still will this continue?

Well,Im going to have to admit it,its 3 months since I FIRST used X1,and I still have little clue as to what Im doing.Ive got Eli`s DVD[groove3,the x1 starter]and today Scott`s book arrived and I geuss I was hoping for some "magical wonder guide" but I cant believe how hard this stuff is to learn!! I KNOW Im not the only one!! Im just gratefull all my gear and X1 seems to work and no crashes or bad weirdness like TONS of people seem to have,Its just I still have no clue how to just record like the old "portastudio" days.Don`t get me wrong Im TOTALLY blown away by some of the "synth" sounds,quality of audio Im hearing, and FULL ON recording STUDIO features included,It just seems with 13 weeks of reading posts/tutorials/etc etc I thought I would at least understand the concepts of creating a DRUM part or adding and playing a "SYNTH" bass line to suit would be happening by now? But Las t night I opened up a "Tutorial"[it seems like a song,not a tutorial]called" The Circuit Symphony -Moon Beams" and Cannot remember how I did it?LOL!!!  28 TRACKS Amazing! NO GLITCHES!What IM trying to say is there must BE A BETTER way to learn this stuff and if some one can TEACH it WITHOUT the endless confusion, they could make a LOT OF MONEY! I geuss Ill just muddle along and hope I can at least get ONE song done by YEARS END!Cheers All.

hey... you aint alone.  I found I just started doing stuff, and if I couldn't figure it out, come here and post a question.  After awhile, I was at least able to do the stuff I wanted to and then could casually learn the other stuff.

Some features are just too deep to really delve into, because they just seem so Sonar specific and used so very occasionally.  I feel I play well enough to skip the auto-snap stuff, but that would be handy, but too much trial and error and it doesn't work really good enough.

Then, some stuff is just so easy...  splicing 2" audio tape in the day which just was so un-nerving to me and "cut and paste" and dragging is just a miracle.  And that's supposedly the simple stuff.

Hi Bob:

Have you watched the Drum Production I (5 parts) videos on CakeTV? SONAR 8 or 8.5 is used, but you might find those videos helpful for making drum tracks using SONAR X1, as Session Drummer 3 is used.

Here's the link in case you're intrested: http://cakewalk.com/CakeTV/SONARU.aspx/Master-Class

Hmmmm,would love to watch the vids but can`t[Thanks so much BIGPOND -NOT!!]until next month,sure I could blow even more dough upgrading my account[internet]but I just dont feel like going through 3+HOURS of talking to a guy in the Philipines about how crap Telstra [Bigponds telephone sister company] is, and having to repeat EVERYTHING many times[due to English understanding speaking/pronunciation difficulties-both ways!]I think Ill take "sykodelic`s" advice though?????After reading the 1050 posts about the incredible "Panu" and the extra refreshing new "looks/functions"[although much of whats discussed is pure "what and what and copy what here and Dll there?]given to X1, there is hope[?]A lot of the confusion is "PURE COMPUTER ILLITERACY",no doubt about that now,Cheers, Too cool of ya-Too cool of ya. 

I started with 4 track recording on cassette as well as reel to reel.  I moved to ADAT 8 track.  Then to ADAT + syncing a computer and midi via SMPTE time code.  Finally ending up with a computer based DAW with a couple of lingering tape machines around.

It's always been a progression where I became very familiar with one aspect before moving on.  Sometimes a year would pass as I researched and made decisions to where I wanted to head.

I would suggest trying to find a SONAR buddy in your area and possibly pay him to sit down with you and show you how to do things.  I've done this for a couple of fellows now.  It wasn't long before they got a working understanding of how things run and they were able to go on by themselves.

We used to use the old Akai Twelve track self contained recorder/mixer units.  And even tho the fader was pulled down all the way I had to get used to the very, very faint sound of the dddddrrrrrrrrrrr of the smpte time code passing by on track 12.  Wonder if someone will soon be making a plugin to put that back on all my new stuff??;-)

[/quote"]Logic never was sonar"-at last some light! [ from "THE WOMB" forum]

Stone House Studios

Mod Bod


I started with 4 track recording on cassette as well as reel to reel.  I moved to ADAT 8 track.  Then to ADAT + syncing a computer and midi via SMPTE time code.  Finally ending up with a computer based DAW with a couple of lingering tape machines around.

It's always been a progression where I became very familiar with one aspect before moving on.  Sometimes a year would pass as I researched and made decisions to where I wanted to head.

I would suggest trying to find a SONAR buddy in your area and possibly pay him to sit down with you and show you how to do things.  I've done this for a couple of fellows now.  It wasn't long before they got a working understanding of how things run and they were able to go on by themselves.

Ahhh - - the days of syncing midi to a stripe of timecode on one track of a multitrack that can never be used again!  Those were the days!  I still have the old Yamaha converter, it still works as a midi split box!
 
Brian

Yeah, I was using a JL Cooper Midisync, I believe it was.  Eventually, I got something that converted the ADAT sync out to SMPTE.  I had two ADATs then.  One Blackface and an XT model.  Used to love waiting till everything synced back up after a rewind to the beginning of a track.  I laugh every time someone complains about "glitch free" rewind and starts here.

Luxury!  We used to 'ave to use cone for microphone and string for cables...

(with apologies to Michael Palin, John Cleese & Co...)

Hey Guitarpima,Its all cool Ive posted elsewhere with gear but Dell xps15 l502 i72630 8gb 750gb hdd cake ua25ex [pretty lowgrade imo-but no glitches if set with silly high latency]krk g2 5".To start [again]3.5 months ago I "started" using a computer for the first time[a mate gave me his old ibm 330pc[W-xp pent3=slow,good enough to start]Quickly I bought a tascam2488 boss, dr880, speakers etc;after programming a beat,laying rythm guit[no bass guitar of my own yet]I quickly realised after reading forums etc etc that ITB DAW was the way to go so rashly bought laptop,sonar x1 studio[soon realised should ave got producer]and have successfully got loops,synths,etc etc to play,sounds incredible, fantastic for playing endless Jeff Beck/Gary Moore type jams,you all know the kind of thing your typical "shred monkey" would get up to, and even though I, HAVE READ THE FM watched as many videos as our TERRIBLE internet situation allows,I just thought Id be LOT further along to doing a LOT better than than "Porta 1992" Its no big deal,just find that Scott Gs book so difficult to get into and suddenly realising I really dont know what Im doing.Its just a typical "panic" reaction when getting the MC bill and thinking MAN have I spent all that money with no recordings worth a damn yet.LOL Itll happen albeit SLOWLY,CHEERS ALL,Thanks again for the input.